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Keiw
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Yes correction is made when error is found, plus God reveals truth at the proper time--He hid truths until these last days( Dan 12:4) thus corrections had to be made because all those teachings were in the bible already but not one on earth knew those truths until revealed by God, thus error was taught in every religion claiming to be Christian on those matters. Share with us the corrections your religion has made here in these last days to prove Jesus leads your religion. All of creation has witnessed the corrections in my religion --trinity religions just make a new religion and carry all the bad teachings over with them.
TrevorHL
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Greetings Keiw,
Kind regards
Trevor
I suggest that you are misusing Daniel 12:4 here. It is not speaking about "truths" in general, and no doctrine was hidden until the last days, and no doctrine needed to be altered in the last days.
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Trevor
Berean
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But according to your theology, the last days started in 1914. Do you mean to tell me that in 110 years, you still haven't figured it out? Is the light so bright you're blinded? How can you understand the DEEP things of God when you can't even understand the MILK of God's Word?
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Berean
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Keiw
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Keiw
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How many days in your life has your heart instructed your mind every single day to( Matt 6:33) seek first the kingdom and Jehovah's righteousness as Jesus commanded all must do? Because all not doing that 24/7,365 cannot possibly accomplish this-John 4:22-24--Blind guides who do not listen to Jesus teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first. That one teaching shows who is who.
Keiw
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All appointments start with Jehovah, to Jesus, through holy spirit, through righteous men.
Keiw
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Try listening to Jesus Hack--Matt 6:33-Seek first the kingdom and his(Jehovah)righteousness--no trinity religion teaches that super important truth. They teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first because they do not listen to Jesus. That one teaching shows all who is who.
Contrary to your opinion Jesus has never lied.-
“I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd.
John 10:16 - deal with it.
that's the trouble with you, wrangler. you regularly disregard the context of a discussion and just barge in to cause irrelevant wasteful disruptions.
I am not interested in your posts. I have asked you numerous times now to stop posting to me. According to the rules of this forum you are expected to respect that. -Another post from you and i will have to resort to reporting your conduct.- it's up to you.
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Berean
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I live for the Kingdom. You think you're the only ones who believe in the Kingdom? Keep in mind you learned about the Kingdom from us.
Berean
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You have answers, but no clue. None of what you have just said makes any scriptural sense. If you stopped and listened to yourself you would see that.
TrevorHL
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Greetings again Keiw,
What Daniel 12:4 is speaking about is the fact that the details of the events of the Last Days would be difficult for Daniel to understand in his particular time and era, but that in the Last Days as the result of many running to and fro knowledge would increase and a better understanding of these events would be available among the "wise" of the Last Days.
Now if you are among these wise, or the GB are these wise, then if we are already in the Last Days or approaching the Last Days, then you should be able to give a clear explanation of say Daniel 11:40-45, and Daniel 12. Who then is the King of the North of Daniel 11:40-45? Who or what specifically is "the abomination of desolation" of Daniel 12:11. What is the significance of the three time periods of Daniel 12, what do they refer to, when did they start and when do they finish? Is there an official Watchtower article on these things?
Yes, I understand English reasonably well. Do you understand Daniel 11:40-45 and Daniel 12?
Daniel 12:10 (KJV): Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Regarding the King of the North of Daniel 11:40-45, it must be about 40 years ago that I had my second last encounter with a JW on the eve of his retirement. He shared with me in a jovial manner how that he had derided one of my mate's view on Ezekiel 38. My mate claimed that the King from the North of Ezekiel 38 was Russia. But at the time of our conversation, the USSR was in the process of disintegration, and the JW was more or less saying, "What are you going to do now with your understanding of Ezekiel 38?" Nevertheless at that time I held firm to my view, and asked him as to who he thought was the King from the North of Ezekiel 38 and who was the King of the North of Daniel 11:40-45? He did not give me an answer. Now the GB have had another 40 years since then. Have the GB now given a definite answer to who are these entities?
Kind regards
Trevor
Daniel 12:4 is not speaking about changing doctrines, because the Truth of the Gospel was preached by Jesus and the Apostles and held by the faithful for the last 2000 years.
What Daniel 12:4 is speaking about is the fact that the details of the events of the Last Days would be difficult for Daniel to understand in his particular time and era, but that in the Last Days as the result of many running to and fro knowledge would increase and a better understanding of these events would be available among the "wise" of the Last Days.
Now if you are among these wise, or the GB are these wise, then if we are already in the Last Days or approaching the Last Days, then you should be able to give a clear explanation of say Daniel 11:40-45, and Daniel 12. Who then is the King of the North of Daniel 11:40-45? Who or what specifically is "the abomination of desolation" of Daniel 12:11. What is the significance of the three time periods of Daniel 12, what do they refer to, when did they start and when do they finish? Is there an official Watchtower article on these things?
Yes, I understand English reasonably well. Do you understand Daniel 11:40-45 and Daniel 12?
Daniel 12:10 (KJV): Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Regarding the King of the North of Daniel 11:40-45, it must be about 40 years ago that I had my second last encounter with a JW on the eve of his retirement. He shared with me in a jovial manner how that he had derided one of my mate's view on Ezekiel 38. My mate claimed that the King from the North of Ezekiel 38 was Russia. But at the time of our conversation, the USSR was in the process of disintegration, and the JW was more or less saying, "What are you going to do now with your understanding of Ezekiel 38?" Nevertheless at that time I held firm to my view, and asked him as to who he thought was the King from the North of Ezekiel 38 and who was the King of the North of Daniel 11:40-45? He did not give me an answer. Now the GB have had another 40 years since then. Have the GB now given a definite answer to who are these entities?
Kind regards
Trevor
Wrangler
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Will become. Are. Not the same thing. Deal with it.
Putting aside our loving banter, Christendom has become overly spiritualized. There are soulful things to contend with in the here and now. That is what I am mindful of. In the here and now, every congregation is a flock with a different shepherd - even while Jesus is THE good shepherd of the OT.
Wrangler
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I always took that "personal" contact meant DM's - not publicly quoting whatever another member publicly wrote. Odd that you do not use the ignore feature.
David in NJ
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AGREE
So, why do you hate the LORD Jesus Christ who IS the only ONE who can save your soul???
David in NJ
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Keep on denying the LORD and you will FOREVER FAIL getting thru the only Open DOOR that can SAVE you!!!
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