Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

[Earburner]

I also would like to add to my post #218, the following for more precise detail, by ref. the original words of the description of that 7th abomination that God hates.

In another thread. I went into great length to reveal that the words of Daniel speak of that 7th abomination precisely, in Dan. 11:31, 12:11.

John 2:18-21, tells the COMPLETE truth about "the abomination that MAKETH desolate".
[18] Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What SIGN shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy [desolate] THIS temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his [mortal] body.**

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an  ABOMINATION unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed INNOCENT blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

**Note: back to John 2:21 above. Then see Mat. 27:24-25, and you will discover WHO it was that shed innocent blood, thus committing "the abomination that MAKETH [causes to be] desolate", aka being void of God. [Dan.11:31;12:11; Mat. 21:43].

The abomination that "MAKETH" [causes to be] desolate.... IS UNTO [against] GOD, not men!!

 

[CTK]

But its not

And again, Daniel 9 is not about the cross. it is about Gods promise to Daniel that his people. His holy city, and his temple will repent and put an end to their sins and be saved.

I am sorry to disagree with you here. Chapter 9 is all about the restoration of Daniel’s people and his city. It reveals those elements that must be restored BY THE JEWS DURING THE FIRST 7 WEEKS. Then, Daniel reveals those elements that must be restored by the MESSIAH during the last week.
The Jews will restore everything asked of them in the reverse order they were taken away or destroyed by the Babylonians. The very last piece of furniture in the Sanctuary that must also be restored is the very first piece of furniture taken away by Jeremiah to prevent it from falling into the hands of the Babylonians- the Ark of the Covenant. Jesus is the only one who could restore the Ark in the form of Himself in the Sanctuary.
When He was baptized in the Jordan, He was also anointed by His Father from heaven. This began His ministry.

Now that everything was completely restored, the Messiah would travel throughout Israel preaching the Good News.

So, this is all prophesied in 9:24-27. It is indeed all about Him. There are the first 2 verses (24-25) are “restorative” verses. And then we have the two “destructive “ verses in 26-27. These are also speaking about the Messiah. But they in both the restorative and the destructive verses, Daniel will also mention the city and the sanctuary.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Let me see Ty and answer your second point at this time. When Jesus said, “unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved.” Everyone contends this is speaking about an end time event when a mythical Antichrist figure will come onto the scene and murder the Jews and cause the worse tribulation the world has ever seen.

I just take it at face value

there will be a great distress or tribulation so severe on this earth. that all life on earth is threatened.

This is also called the time of Gods wrath, or satan being cast out of heaven, having great wrath.

No, there is no literal antichrist figure, there is no 7 year tribulation.

Your right it is 3.5, and there is a future prince.

Here is what Jesus was saying:

look forward to hearing what you say

Jesus arrived on the first day of the 70th week of the prophecy to fulfill His God given mission (9:24), and to establish His church, and to confirm the New Covenant with His people. He would send His Holy Spirit to us on Pentecost. Jesus succeeded in everything He was asked to do and He completed everything in the 3.5 years of the last 7 years of the prophecy. Here is the meaning- Jesus was given this last week or the last 7 years but He went to the cross 3.5 years of the 7 years. Jesus WILLINGLY died for us to take away our sins. Meaning, it was Jesus who would willingly “shorten those days” of the last week and go to the cross otherwise, no flesh would be saved! Without the cross, there would be no way anyone could be saved!

The 70 weeks have nothing to do with Jesus or the church.

it has everything to do with Daniels people. His city and his temple..

Nothing you say here is supported with scripture/ I must go with the written word

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I also would like to add to my post #218 the following for more precise detail, by ref. the original words of the description of that 7th abomination that God hates.

In another thread. I went into great length to reveal that the words of Daniel speak of that 7th abomination precisely, in Dan. 11:31, 12:11.

John 2:18-21, tells the COMPLETE truth about "the abomination that MAKETH desolate".
[18] Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy [desolate] THIS temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his [mortal] body.**

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an  ABOMINATION unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed INNOCENT blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

**Note: back to John 2:21 above. Then see Mat. 27:24-25, and you will discover WHO it was that shed innocent blood, thus committing "the abomination that MAKETH [causes to be] desolate", aka being void of God. [Dan.11:31;12:11; Mat. 21:43].

THATS not an abomination

An abomination is an idel. a monster. an unclean thing, something that makes someone or something ceremoniously unclean.

Jesus said we will SEE it STANDING in the holy place.

You can not see what you are describing standing in any holy place..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I am sorry to disagree with you here.

Thats fine, you are allowed. But you need to explain it IN tthe text itself

Chapter 9 is all about the restoration of Daniel’s people and his city. It reveals those elements that must be restored BY THE JEWS DURING THE FIRST 7 WEEKS. Then, Daniel reveals those elements that must be restored by the MESSIAH during the last week.

no, This is not what the text says

“Seventy [e]weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city,

It does not say 1 week,. it says 70 weeks (weeks of years)
It does not say for the church, it says for YOUR PEOPLE AND YOUR HOLY CITY.

To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins,

When the 70 weeks are up. Israel will repent and confess her own sins to God. this is found all over the OT.

To make reconciliation for iniquity,

This happened at the cross. But concerning israel. did it really?

Paul describes this time. In romans 11:
Rom 11: 25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion,

First he tells Gentile believers not to be proud. and not to be ignorant of the mystery. what mystery?

that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

The mystery is that Israel even today is blinded in part. and will remain so until the fullness of the gentiles is come,

When does this occur. when the last gentile empire is destroyed by Christ himself. when? At the end of the age.

Then what will happen?

26 And so all Israel will be saved,

In context here
Israel is not saved gentiles
Israel is blinded in part
Israel is enemies concerning the gospel. but beloved because of the election.

The question is, How will this happen?

as it is written:

“The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”

So God takes away their sins, fulfilling the first two point of Dan 9, and he also fulfills the part of making reconciliation ofr their iniquity, because it is then that his forgiveness is applied.

To bring in everlasting righteousness,

Read the OY prophets. when this happen. Israel no longer continues in her trespasses and sins, But they follow God. And jesus who rules in Davids throne, I can take you to those passages if you wish and prove this point. let me know

To seal up vision and prophecy,

There is still much prophecy that needs comp0leted. But if you want to know when this happens. read dan 12.


And to anoint the Most Holy.

Jesus will be anointed when he sits on Davids throne

The Jews will restore everything asked of them in the reverse order they were taken away or destroyed by the Babylonians. The very last piece of furniture in the Sanctuary that must also be restored is the very first piece of furniture taken away by Jeremiah to prevent it from falling into the hands of the Babylonians- the Ark of the Covenant. Jesus is the only one who could restore the Ark in the form of Himself in the Sanctuary.
When He was baptized in the Jordan, He was also anointed by His Father from heaven. This began His ministry.

Now that everything was completely restored, the Messiah would travel throughout Israel preaching the Good News.

But everything is not restored Israel is in sin, The city of Jerusalem is desolate. the temple is in ruins. everything t5hat Daniel prayed for. for God to do, nothing has changed.

So, this is all prophesied in 9:24-27. It is indeed all about Him. There are the first 2 verses (24-25) are “restorative” verses. And then we have the two “destructive “ verses in 26-27. These are also speaking about the Messiah. But they in both the restorative and the destructive verses, Daniel will also mention the city and the sanctuary.

no. The prince who confirms a covenant with many is from rome.. His people destroyed the city in 70 AD

 

[Douggg]

I agree almost

I still think it will be inside the temple holy place. Only it will be broadcast on TV all over the world. For everyone to see.

Since this is the sign that Jesus made clear was the major sign to look for.. It will be visible to all.. Another reason it could not have happened in 70 AD

Hi Eternally Grateful, great screen name, btw.

You are correct about a broadcasting on TV to be seen all over the world of something that will take place inside the temple sanctuary building.

But you have the wrong event. The event will be when the Antichrist (perceived messiah to the Jews), one day about 3 years into the 7 years, will walk on to the temple mount accompanied by his camera crew and security. He will tell the Jewish priests there to stop their preparing to slaughter the daily sacrifice. They will stop and look at him with a bewildered look on their face.

He will then go into the temple sanctuary building, with his camera crew, part the veil to the Holy of Holies chamber, and sit where the ark of covenant would normally be, showing himself to be God and all that is called God.

2Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The event is the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13. The reason it is called the transgression of desolation is because it will be a transgression of the Mt. Sinai covenant that the person as the Antichrist will have confirmed earlier to begin the 7 year 70th week.

We can look at Daniel 9, in Daniel's prayer of confession - that his people "transgressed" the law of the Mt. Sinai covenant....

Daniel 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.

The Jews will be mortified when the see the televised event. And will dis-own him as continuing as their King of Israel thought-to-be messiah. End of his stage as the Antichrist. And the beginning of his stage as the revealed man of sin.

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In my next post, I will explain why the abomination of desolation statue image, that Satan will eventually indwell, will not be placed inside the temple sanctuary building, but instead out in the open on the temple mount.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Hi Eternally Grateful, great screen name, btw.

You are correct about a broadcasting on TV to be seen all over the world of something that will take place inside the temple sanctuary building.

But you have the wrong event. The event will be when the Antichrist (perceived messiah to the Jews), one day about 3 years into the 7 years, will walk on to the temple mount accompanied by his camera crew and security. He will tell the Jewish priests there to stop their preparing to slaughter the daily sacrifice. They will stop and look at him with a bewildered look on their face.

He will then go into the temple sanctuary building, with his camera crew, part the veil to the Holy of Holies chamber, and sit where the ark of covenant would normally be, showing himself to be God and all that is called God.

2Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The event is the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13. The reason it is called the transgression of desolation is because it will a transgression of the Mt. Sinai covenant that the person as the Antichrist will have confirmed earlier to begin the 7 year 70th week.

We can look at Daniel 9, in Daniel's prayer of confession - that his people "transgressed" the law of the Mt. Sinai covenant....

Daniel 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.

The Jews will be mortified when the see the televised event. And will dis-own him as continuing as their King of Israel thought-to-be messiah. End of his stage as the Antichrist. And the beginning of his stage as the revealed man of sin.

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In my next post, I will explain why the abomination of desolation statue image, that Satan will eventually indwell, will not be placed inside the temple sanctuary building, but instead out in the open on the temple mount.

I disagree.

The man of sin is said to put this idol in the holy place. and pump himself up as God. It is mentioned in Dan 9, Dan 12 and matt 24 and mark 13.

the abomination of desolate in dan 11 was done by antiochus epiphanes when he entered the jerwsh temple and slaughtered a pig inside the temple. The pig was considered an unclean object to the jews. so would have been an abomination so great, it would have rendered the Holy Place unlcean so sacrifice and burnt offering would cease. until the holy place was cleansed

 

[Douggg]

@Eternally Grateful

Here is why the abomination of desolation statue image of the beast-king will be set up out in the open on the temple mount clearly visible to everyone.

Back in Ezekiel 28:12-19, it talks about Satan, his down fall, his being cast down to earth, his being exposed visibly, and his end as being a terror.

In Revelation 12:7-9, Satan will be cast down to earth. He will have great wrath, knowing that his time is short, and will be a terror to the inhabiters of the earth, Revelation 12:12.

Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

So Satan will be cast down to earth. He will then indwell the statue image of the beast-king making it appear to come to life and speak.

Because Satan is going to be exposed to the kings of the earth to physically see him - the statue image must be out in the open and not inside the sanctuary building.

Let's see what happens in the next verse to that statue image that Satan will be indwelling....

Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

So what's going to happen to that statue image that Satan will be indwelling, will go up in flames, and turned to ashes - exposing Satan for all present that day to behold there on the temple mount. And standing close by will be the beast-king and the false prophet.

Keep in mind that there will be the armies of the kings of the earth, and the kings of the earth themselves, present, surrounding the temple mount. And some of them will have bowed down and worhipped the statue image, unknowlingly that they were actually worshiping Satan indwelling the statue image.

So, in verse 19... they worshipers of the statue image are going to be shocked to find out that it was Satan that they had unwittingly been worshiping.

Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

So the statue image, out in the open on the temple mount, turned to ashes, and Satan there on the temple mount exposed out in the open... the angel with the chain descends from heaven, in Revelation 20:1-3, binds Satan up and casts him into the bottomless pit.

 

[Douggg]

the abomination of desolate in dan 11 was done by antiochus epiphanes when he entered the jerwsh temple and slaughtered a pig inside the temple.

Yes, I understand what you are saying that Antiochus's actions pre-figured the end time abomination of desolation, but it was not a perfect equivalent because the statue image of Zeus never came alive and spoke.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

@Eternally Grateful

Here is why the abomination of desolation statue image of the beast-king will be set up out in the open on the temple mount clearly visible to everyone.

Back in Ezekiel 28:12-19, it talks about Satan, his down fall, his being cast down to earth, his being exposed visibly, and his end as being a terror.

In Revelation 12:7-9, Satan will be cast down to earth. He will have great wrath, knowing that his time is short, and will be a terror to the inhabiters of the earth, Revelation 12:12.

Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

So Satan will be cast down to earth. He will then indwell the statue image of the beast-king making it appear to come to life and speak.

Because Satan is going to be exposed to the kings of the earth to physically see him - the statue image must be out in the open and not inside the sanctuary building.

Let's see what happens in the next verse to that statue image that Satan will be indwelling....

Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

So what's going to happen to that statue image that Satan will be indwelling, will go up in flames, and turned to ashes - exposing Satan for all present that day to behold there on the temple mount. And standing close by will be the beast-king and the false prophet.

Keep in mind that there will be the armies of the kings of the earth, and the kings of the earth themselves, present, surrounding the temple mount. And some of them will have bowed down and worhipped the statue image, unknowlingly that they were actually worshiping Satan indwelling the statue image.

So, in verse 19... they worshipers of the statue image are going to be shocked to find out that it was Satan that they had unwittingly been worshiping.

Ezekiel 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

So the statue image, out in the open on the temple mount, turned to ashes, and Satan there on the temple mount exposed out in the open... the angel with the chain descends from heaven, in Revelation 20:1-3, binds Satan up and casts him into the bottomless pit.



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2 things

1. Satan does not commit the abomination of desolation. the final roman ruler does.
2. He commits it by placing the idol or unclean thing in Holy place. In jewish tradition not only in Christ day but today, that would be the place called the most holy place. or the place inside the veil where the High priest goes once a year to offer sacrifice. This is what Antiochus epiphanies did
3. The image of the beast you are talking about comes after this event.. And the false prophet gets the people to create this image, and I am not sure we know exactly where this will take place..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes, I understand what you are saying that Antiochus's actions pre-figured the end time abomination of desolation, but it was not a perfect equivalent because the statue image of Zeus never came alive and spoke.

In order to do this I would need to assume the image of the beast, and the abomination which causes desolation are one and the same

The abomination of desolations comes as a suprise to the people of Jerusalem. that with Jesus told them, when you see it run..

The people left will willingly make the image of the beast, I do not consider them to be the same object. Not to mention, the abomination that causesa desolation will be inside the temple (the holy place) the image of the beast will be placed outside.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Thanks for your response. The AOD is indeed referring to the crucifixion of Jesus.

Then you are calling Jesus an abominable thing, an idle. an unclean thing

And I am taking His death literally.

I am to. so did the author of daniel 9, and after the 69th week, the messiah will be cut off.. It happened literally as was prophesied.

He would punish His people for rejecting and crucifying Him by “making Desolate “ His presence or relationship with them for the time of the Gentiles- some 2000 years.

lol. He has relationship wth many jews, he has not cast them out, they are blinded in part.

Jesus refers to the AOD standing in the holy place….. He is telling us in Matthew that He is the one standing in the holy place because Matthew is written to the Jews. Matthew is telling his fellow Jews that Jesus was their Messiah, their King, their High Priest, the Passover Lamb of God. He is trying to show them that Jesus was indeed the One prophesied in the Scriptures… Jesus BELONGED in the holy place.

No.

He also told the people who see it to run.. Did the city of jerusalem run when Jesus hung on the cross> No. Because that is not what is spoken of..

He also said immediately after there would be great tribulation such as has never seen before or after. this also did not take place.

Now, take a look at the exact same scene but this time it will be recorded by Mark. Exact same time and place but Mark records it a little differently. Why? In Mark, Jesus says, “when you see the AOD standing in the place where he ought not be, or ought not belong (spoken by Daniel) ….

Yes, In the holy place.

There was only one holy place in jerusalem, it was inside the temple.

So, why is this recorded differently? It is because Mark is not writing to the Jews, he is writing to the Gentiles. In Mark, the focus or emphasis of Jesus’ arrival is not that of a king, but as a suffering servant. Jesus, the suffering servant does not belong in the holy place- servants are not allowed there.

nice try, But you can;t change the meaning of matthew to help support your view.

Jesus is telling us in two Gospels, in two different ways that He is the AOD… in order to meet these two very different requirements, He is reducing the identity of the AOD to … just one - Himself!

Again no

The language does not support you

An abomination is an Idle, An unclean thing, a moster or something that makes the person or place unclean.

If you think this is Jesus, Woe is you

And if you notice in Luke, it is once again the exact same scene and time, but this time Jesus does not refer to Daniel, and He focuses on the destruction of the city … Here He is revealing His death / crucifixion / AOD, will cause complete destruction and His people will be made desolate. In Luke, he focuses or speaks about Jesus as a man, not a king or servant. Thus, no “man” has the power to “make desolate” God’s people from their God…

Nope Luke is a different time, Luke is speaking of when the buildings will be torn down, when no stone shall be left on another. Luke is written to those alive in 70 AD

Mark and Matt are written to those alive at the time of the end of the age, when the world leader places an AOD in the holy place.

 

[Douggg]

2 things

1. Satan does not commit the abomination of desolation. the final roman ruler does.

I agree that Satan does not commit the abomination of desolation. The abomination of desolation will be "set up" as it says in Daniel 12:11. It will be set up by the false prophet.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

2. He commits it by placing the idol or unclean thing in Holy place. In jewish tradition not only in Christ day but today, that would be the place called the most holy place. or the place inside the veil where the High priest goes once a year to offer sacrifice. This is what Antiochus epiphanies did

The temple mount is considered by Jews a holy place

3. The image of the beast you are talking about comes after this event.. And the false prophet gets the people to create this image, and I am not sure we know exactly where this will take place..

The statue image of the beast on the temple mount is the abomination of desolation.

Satan cannot be exposed to the kings of the earth, and all present that day - if within the confines of the temple sanctuary building.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I agree that Satan does not commit the abomination of desolation. The abomination of desolation will be "set up" as it says in Daniel 12:11. It will be set up by the false prophet.

No, Dan 9 says it will be set up by the prince who is to come

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

I agree.. This is the time the man of sin has before he is defeated by Christ

The temple mount is considered by Jews a holy place

The temple mount is considered. But it is not even the true temple mount
In either case. The holy place according to any jew, would be where the sacrifice is given.

The statue image of the beast on the temple mount is the abomination of desolation.

Look at it, there is a muslim mosque on the mount now.. this (actually it is by some) would be just as abominable.

of course, the jews got the location of the temple wrong.. or they would realise this truth

Satan cannot be exposed to the kings of the earth, and all present that day - if within the confines of the temple sanctuary building.

Thats just it

He causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease. by placing an unclean thing in the holy place where sacrifice and burnt offering takes place. Just like Antiochus epiphanies did.


The image of the beast is used for the purpose your talking about.

they are not the same, The image of the beast is not going to cause sacrifice and burnt offering to cease because it made the holy place unclean. which us what an abomination that causes desolation does

 

[Douggg]

The abomination of desolations comes as a suprise to the people of Jerusalem. that with Jesus told them, when you see it run..

The order of events are...

confirmation of the covenant by the Antichrist - the 7year 70th week begins

then, 3 years later, thereabouts, the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation, claiming to have achieved God-hood. That event will be a surprise, but not what triggers the Jews to flee to the mountains.

then, God angered by the transgression of desolation act has the revealed man of sin - assassinated, Ezekiel 28:1-10

then, God in disdain for the person brings him back to life - Isaiah 14:18-20. Come back to life, the person becomes the beast.

then, the ten kings, leaders, of the EU hand their EU kingdom over to him - to be dictator. Revelation 17:17. The person thus becomes the beast-king.

then, the false prophet has a statue image made of the beast-king and sets it up on the temple mount, out in the open. As the abomination of desolation, spoken of by the prophet Daniel. 1335 days before Jesus returns.

then, the Jews seeing it, begin to flee. Given cover by the two witnesses, who battle the beast for the last 75 days of their 1260 days first half.

then, the beast-king overcomes the two witnesses, and kills them on day 1260. Their bodies lie dead in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days, before coming back to life and called up to heaven. 1256.5 days left in the 70th week. Nominally called 42 months.

then, a great earthquake in Jerusalem, which 7,000 people die.

then, the 7th angel sounds his trumpet. Signaling Michael to take his angels and cast Satan and his angels down to earth from the second heaven, in Revelation 12:7-9.

then, Satan indwells the statue image of the beast-king that will have been set up on the temple mount out in the open.

then, the false prophet starts forceably bringing people in Jerusalem to the temple mount to bow down and worship the statue image, there on the temple mount out in the open. Anyone refusing will be beheaded. Revelation 20:4.

The worship of the statue image, the beheadings for refusing, will all be out in the open. Not inside the temple sanctuary building.

Satan will be exposed there on the temple mount, when Jesus returns, and stares down the statue image indwelt by Satan, bursting it into flames, reducing it to ashes. Satan, out in the open on the temple mount, will then be bound in a chain by an angel descending from heaven, and cast into the bottomless pit. Revelation 20:1-3.

 

[covenantee]

But its not

And again, Daniel 9 is not about the cross. it is about Gods promise to Daniel that his people. His holy city, and his temple will repent and put an end to their sins and be saved.

Daniel 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Acts 2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.


Did the 3,000 of Daniel's people who received Christ in Acts 2 experience any of Daniel 9:24?

 

[Douggg]

Thats just it

He causes sacrifice and burnt offering to cease. by placing an unclean thing in the holy place where sacrifice and burnt offering takes place. Just like Antiochus epiphanies did.

The daily sacrifice and burnt offering take place, not inside the sanctuary building, but in courtyard where the brazen altar are located.

Inside the temple sanctuary building are two chambers. The Holy chamber, and the Holy of Holies chamber, separated by a heavy veil, curtain.

No one actually goes inside the Holy of Holies chamber within the temple sanctuary building, except for the high priest, and then only one time a year.

No, Dan 9 says it will be set up by the prince who is to come

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The prince who shall come does not actually set up the abomination of desolation statue image himself. He is a root cause though of it happening.

 

[covenantee]

The daily sacrifice and burnt offering take place, not inside the sanctuary building, but in courtyard where the brazen altar are located.

Inside the temple sanctuary building are two chambers. The Holy chamber, and the Holy of Holies chamber, separated by a heavy veil, curtain.

No one actually goes inside the Holy of Holies chamber within the temple sanctuary building, except for the high priest, and then only one time a year.


Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The prince who shall come does not actually set up the abomination of desolation statue image himself. He is a root cause though of it happening.

Daniel 9
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Acts 2
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.


Did the 3,000 of Daniel's people who received Christ in Acts 2 experience any of Daniel 9:24?

Well Douggg, EG won't reply to my question.

Will you?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The order of events are...

confirmation of the covenant by the Antichrist - the 7year 70th week begins

then, 3 years later, thereabouts, the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation, claiming to have achieved God-hood. That event will be a surprise, but not what triggers the Jews to flee to the mountains.

I can just go by Gods word

15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand),

This is spoken and written down so the reader of this message who sees this thing happen. can act.. And what are they told to do

16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

The tribulation will be 3 causes
1. The wrath of God
2. the wrath of satan who is cast out of heaven and is angry because he knows his time is short
3. The greed of man

This time of gtrouble will be so severe. that if Christ does not return, no flesh would survive.

I try not to read into a passage things which are not said. I just take it as truth. especially when it comes to prophecy.

 

[CTK]

Then you are calling Jesus an abominable thing, an idle. an unclean thing



I am to. so did the author of daniel 9, and after the 69th week, the messiah will be cut off.. It happened literally as was prophesied.

lol. He has relationship wth many jews, he has not cast them out, they are blinded in part.


No.

He also told the people who see it to run.. Did the city of jerusalem run when Jesus hung on the cross> No. Because that is not what is spoken of..

He also said immediately after there would be great tribulation such as has never seen before or after. this also did not take place.



Yes, In the holy place.

There was only one holy place in jerusalem, it was inside the temple.

nice try, But you can;t change the meaning of matthew to help support your view.

Again no

The language does not support you

An abomination is an Idle, An unclean thing, a moster or something that makes the person or place unclean.

If you think this is Jesus, Woe is you



Nope Luke is a different time, Luke is speaking of when the buildings will be torn down, when no stone shall be left on another. Luke is written to those alive in 70 AD

Mark and Matt are written to those alive at the time of the end of the age, when the world leader places an AOD in the holy place.

Okay, and thanks for your thoughts.