Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

[MA2444]

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No no. It is not a contract or agreement that can be broken. It is an everlasting covenant that God has with His people. It is like a will. The covenant cannot become a force or made strengthened UNTIL Christ has die with his Blood to confirm it. Please read Hebrews 9. This has NOTHING to do with your false vision of a peace treaty between the antichrist and Israel in the Middle East.

I was simply explaining how contracts work. I used to have to write them for my Business so I have some expierience with them. In Business above board for 22 years and never once had to go to court for anything. I didnt get sued because I treated people fairly.

Treatys.Covenants/Contracts...they are all basically the same and came from as an idea from the Lord and it was man who started corrupting things with their contracts. So God will keep his word and not violate His Covenant (s) with man.

But the AC dont have no class so he will break his word. What a slimeball he must be...

 

[TribulationSigns]

I was simply explaining how contracts work. I used to have to write them for my Business so I have some expierience with them. In Business above board for 22 years and never once had to go to court for anything. I didnt get sued because I treated people fairly.

Treatys.Covenants/Contracts...they are all basically the same and came from as an idea from the Lord and it was man who started corrupting things with their contracts. So God will keep his word and not violate His Covenant (s) with man.

But the AC dont have no class so he will break his word. What a slimeball he must be...

Not according to your private interpretation without understanding what Scrpture talks about. You must compare Scirpture with Scirpture and allow it to be its own interpreter. It's not a CONTRACT or an AGREEMENT. Not about the antichrist or national Israel.

Heb 9:14-17
(14) How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
(15) And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
(16) For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
(17) For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Christ was "he" who had confirmed a covenant with his blood FOR HIS PEOPLE! Not antichrist confirm a peace treaty with Israel which is a false doctrine.

 

[IndianaRob]

Who of the historical true Christian Church has denied that it is 7 years?

I don’t know of anyone of note who hasn’t viewed them as 7 years.

 

[IndianaRob]

The 70th week of Daniel could not have been fulfilled in Jesus time. Because the Angel that came and gave these revelations for Daniel to write down and save for a future generation, in the latter days.

Daniel 12:4
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased..../KJV

Daniel 10:14
14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.

The latter days were the latter days of Irsael, not the latter days of the world. As the writer of Hebrews says “Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; “

The last days is another reason the Daniels prophecy had to be fulfilled in Jesus time.

 

[IndianaRob]

It sure is in scripture.

Ezekial 4:6
6 And again, when thou hast accomplished these, thou shalt lie on thy right side, and shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah: forty days, each day for a year, have I appointed it unto thee..../KJV

He comes right out and says it right here. Prophetic days in scripture are always one year each. BTW, prophetic years are based on a 360 day calandar.

And that, Times, Time, and half a Time means 3 1/2 years. Times is plural so means two, Time is singular so is one. There's a lot to it and it's easy to get confused.

The truth lies in the details Brother.

Yes a lot people use Ezekiel to justify the week of years but week of years doesn't work in Daniel.

In Daniel 9:27 it says that Jesus will confirm the covenant for EXACTLY one week.

Is there a 7 year period in the life Jesus where we can say he confirmed the covenant? Not that I know of.

Is there a 7 DAY period in the life Jesus where we can say he confirmed the covenant? Absolutely, The week started when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on palm Sunday. In the midst of that week he was crucified. At the end of that week he rose from the dead, confirming the covenant God made with Abraham in EXACTLY 7 days.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I don’t know of anyone of note who hasn’t viewed them as 7 years.

So, you think you somehow know better than everyone of note who has ever lived, right?

 

[IndianaRob]

So, you think you somehow know better than everyone of note who has ever lived, right

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Mainstream is always the opposite of the truth. After all that’s happened in the last four years you would think you would know that.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Mainstream is always the opposite of the truth. After all that’s happened in the last four years you would think you would know that.

This is silly. No, mainstream is not always the opposite of the truth. Sometimes, sure. Always? No. The mainstream view of those who claim to be Christians is that Jesus died and rose again from the dead. Is that the opposite of the truth?

And we're talking about you alone knowing better than millions of Christians. Somehow you, of all people, know the truth about this and no one else does? Really?

 

[IndianaRob]

This is silly. No, mainstream is not always the opposite of the truth. Sometimes, sure. Always? No. The mainstream view of those who claim to be Christians is that Jesus died and rose again from the dead. Is that the opposite of the truth?

And we're talking about you alone knowing better than millions of Christians. Somehow you, of all people, know the truth about this and no one else does? Really?

Im sure I’m not the only one to understand this, I’m sure there have been many people that believe every word of the Bible exactly as it is written.

We’re all nobodies, no one is going to record our views in history. Most of us are ridiculed and made fun of.

 

[IndianaRob]

Moses sent out 12 spies to scout out the promise land, the vast majority, 10, said it couldn’t be taken but 2, the minority, said it was a piece of cake.

The vast majority of the children of Israel believed the account of the 10 while the minority believed the account of the 2.

The vast majority died in the wilderness. The minority, Joshua and Caleb were the only two of the first generation that were allowed to enter the promised land.

Joshua and Caleb were allowed to enter the promised land because they had the Spirit of TRUTH with them.

 

[Davy]

Anybody care to explain why Daniel mourned for 3 literal weeks but somehow the week that Messiah confirmed the covenant God made with Abraham morphs into 7 years?

I can tell you how that happens. It’s because certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness.

You guys who believe the 70 weeks of years heresy have fallen right into their trap. Even to the extent that you have changed the grace of God (Daniel 9:27) into “The Antichrist” signing a “7 year peace treaty” with the Jews.

Christ Jesus did NOT confirm any covenant for a period of 7 years. That is a BOGUS from the doctrines of men.

The final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 is about the coming false-Messiah that will appear in Jerusalem for the end of this world, and set himself up in a 3rd Jewish temple there, and proclaim himself as GOD, working miracles that will deceive the whole world, and ESPECIALLY the unbelieving Jews.

That is why Lord Jesus in His Olivet discourse WARNED His Church about that coming pseudo-Christ (Antichrist) at the end of this world when He quoted from Daniel 11:31 about the "abomination of desolation", which is what the Daniel 9:27 subject is about. So HOW could Jesus warn of that while those devils you listen to claim Jesus fulfilled that?

Thus what you claim about that final "one week" of Dan.9 is easy to know is BOGUS.

 

[IndianaRob]

Christ Jesus did NOT confirm any covenant for a period of 7 years. That is a BOGUS from the doctrines of men.

The final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 is about the coming false-Messiah that will appear in Jerusalem for the end of this world, and set himself up in a 3rd Jewish temple there, and proclaim himself as GOD, working miracles that will deceive the whole world, and ESPECIALLY the unbelieving Jews.

That is why Lord Jesus in His Olivet discourse WARNED His Church about that coming pseudo-Christ (Antichrist) at the end of this world when He quoted from Daniel 11:31 about the "abomination of desolation", which is what the Daniel 9:27 subject is about. So HOW could Jesus warn of that while those devils you listen to claim Jesus fulfilled that?

Thus what you claim about that final "one week" of Dan.9 is easy to know is BOGUS.

Ok

 

[Davy]

I am well aware of who the prophecy was for and assumed nothing.

Daniels exiled people were promised a return to their land, and after 69 of those weeks the anointed Messiah would be revealed to his people.


25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until [the coming of] the Messiah (the Anointed One), the Prince, there will be seven weeks [of years] and sixty-two weeks [of years];

What you said above is NOT what that Daniel 9:24-27 Scripture says. You FORGOT to include Dan.9:26 that gives MORE DETAIL about the 2 periods of 7 weeks and 62 weeks...

Dan 9:26
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
KJV

Why did you leave the above 26th verse out?

That above 26th verse reveals that Messiah was to be "cut off" at the end of the 69th week. So just trying to use the Dan.9:25 verse by itself is MISLEADING and means changing what God's Word there actually says. Some miss that 26th verse accidentally, others do it on purpose to push a false doctrine.

 

[Davy]

The 70 weeks prophecy is about the coming of the Messiah and the prophecy states that when He when He comes, He will be cut off after the 69th week (hence in the middle of the final week), and the city and sanctuary would be destroyed.
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Nope! The Dan.9 seventy sevens prophecy is NOT all... about Messiah. That is a bogus statement devised by the doctrines of men that you follow.

The Daniel 9:25-26 verses cover a period of 69 sevens, and that is all. Jesus was "cut off" at the end of the 69th seven, leaving the final 70th seven still unfulfilled, even to this day.


The following shows Jesus was cut off at the END of the 69th week:

Dan 9:26
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
KJV

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes a lot people use Ezekiel to justify the week of years but week of years doesn't work in Daniel.

In Daniel 9:27 it says that Jesus will confirm the covenant for EXACTLY one week.

Um no it does not. It does not say Jesus does anything, except to come (at the end of the 69th week) and die

Is there a 7 year period in the life Jesus where we can say he confirmed the covenant? Not that I know of.

Because it was not about Jesus, it was a bout the prince who is to come

Is there a 7 DAY period in the life Jesus where we can say he confirmed the covenant? Absolutely, The week started when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on palm Sunday. In the midst of that week he was crucified. At the end of that week he rose from the dead, confirming the covenant God made with Abraham in EXACTLY 7 days.

Jesus did not confirm a covenant, period.

And we know it is weeks of years because from the time to restore Jerusalem until messiah the prince was exactly 69 weeks of 7 years

if the first 69 weeks are weeks of years. the the last week will be also

 

[Davidpt]

Yes a lot people use Ezekiel to justify the week of years but week of years doesn't work in Daniel.

In Daniel 9:27 it says that Jesus will confirm the covenant for EXACTLY one week.

Is there a 7 year period in the life Jesus where we can say he confirmed the covenant? Not that I know of.

Is there a 7 DAY period in the life Jesus where we can say he confirmed the covenant? Absolutely, The week started when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on palm Sunday. In the midst of that week he was crucified. At the end of that week he rose from the dead, confirming the covenant God made with Abraham in EXACTLY 7 days.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

IOW per your interpretation.

490 days are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be 49 days, and 434 days: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
And after 434 days shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for 7 days: and in the midst of the 7 days he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

And this makes sense exactly how???????? Guess what., though? If your interpretation involves no gaps, well 434 days would equal approx 1.2 or so years. 1.2 or so years earlier, meaning 1.2 years prior to the time of the cross, no one was still doing any of this--to build Jerusalem ---the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. LOL. Your interpretation is preposterous beyond belief because your interpretation has them still building the streets after Christ has already been born, after they had already built the streets before Christ was even born. And you have them still doing this less than 2 years prior to the time of the cross since that is where these days involving building Jerusalem and it's streets would have to fit if there are no gaps in your interpretation, and that literal weeks are meant instead of weeks of years.

Some of you act like some of the rest of us are plain stupid or something, as if we should be taking interpretations , such as yours, serious.

 

[jeffweeder]

What you said above is NOT what that Daniel 9:24-27 Scripture says. You FORGOT to include Dan.9:26 that gives MORE DETAIL about the 2 periods of 7 weeks and 62 weeks...

Dan 9:26
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
KJV

Why did you leave the above 26th verse out?

That above 26th verse reveals that Messiah was to be "cut off" at the end of the 69th week. So just trying to use the Dan.9:25 verse by itself is MISLEADING and means changing what God's Word there actually says. Some miss that 26th verse accidentally, others do it on purpose to push a false doctrine.

Lol, you have v26 contradicting v25. Not wise.

V 25 states that 7 and 62 weeks have to pass until Messiah.

25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until [the coming of] the Messiah (the Anointed One), the Prince, there will be seven weeks [of years] and sixty-two weeks [of years];

How then can he be cut off before he arrives?
Ridiculous.

 

[covenantee]

Jesus did not confirm a covenant, period.

Matthew 26 YLT
27 and having taken the cup, and having given thanks, he gave to them, saying, `Drink ye of it -- all;
28 for this is my blood of the new covenant, that for many is being poured out -- to remission of sins;

So Jesus tricked His disciples.

Clever.

 

[Davidpt]

Matthew 26 YLT
27 and having taken the cup, and having given thanks, he gave to them, saying, `Drink ye of it -- all;
28 for this is my blood of the new covenant, that for many is being poured out -- to remission of sins;

So Jesus tricked His disciples.

Clever.

What we are to then believe I guess, is when it's the day after this 7 year period, for example, Jesus is no longer doing this---And he shall confirm the covenant with many.

IOW, for an entire 7 years He is doing this---And he shall confirm the covenant with many. But the day after this 7 years have come and gone, He is no longer doing this any more nor ever again---And he shall confirm the covenant with many.

 

[covenantee]

What we are to then believe I guess, is when it's the day after this 7 year period, for example, Jesus is no longer doing this---And he shall confirm the covenant with many.

IOW, for an entire 7 years He is doing this---And he shall confirm the covenant with many. But the day after this 7 years have come and gone, He is no longer doing this any more nor ever again---And he shall confirm the covenant with many.

Hebrews 13:20
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Jesus is no longer confirming His everlasting covenant?

Says who?

If He's no longer confirming it, it's not an everlasting covenant.

But He is, and it is.