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Welcome to the forums. This thread is diametrically at odds with the post in this other thread.

Ain't no Yahavah in the Christian Bible. Why do you INSIST on attacking the Christian Bible just like Satan would do??? You're attacking God's Name!
 

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So it is told in every church. The Bible says different.

Before Adam was caused to become Spiritually Alive, he was only a body made of dirt.

Its the Spirit, that lives IN the BODY, that is the LIFE..........and once your body is buried or cremated, you will continue.
Its only your body that they are going to bury or cremate.

The GRAVE is not the end of you @theJW ...., its the eternal DOOR that leads your Spirit into God's ETERNITY, and if you are not born again before your body dies....., your spiritual eternity wont be found with God's Family.
 

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Before Adam was caused to become Spiritually Alive, he was only a body made of dirt.

Its the Spirit, that lives IN the BODY, that is the LIFE..........and once your body is buried or cremated, you will continue.
Its only your body that they are going to bury or cremate.

The GRAVE is not the end of you @theJW ...., its the eternal DOOR that leads your Spirit into God's ETERNITY, and if you are not born again before your body dies....., your spiritual eternity wont be found with God's Family.
Gen 2:7- And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. - ASV
 

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This is what the real bible, the King James bible, says.

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
 

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This is what the real bible, the King James bible, says.

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Yup. Nothing about Jesus. How can a thing be WITH something and BE that same something at the same time?
 

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This is what the real bible, the King James bible, says.

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2- The same was in the beginning with God.

John says this TWICE!

I guess you better understand it!
A key in Ex 7:1.
 

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John 1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2- The same was in the beginning with God.

John says this TWICE!

I guess you better understand it!
A key in Ex 7:1.
John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 1:17 - For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
 
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John 1:7-8 - The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

John 8:12 - Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
 
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Jesus served this God before and after his resurrection.
Yes, RESURRECTION! He was DEAD!
God CANNOT die.

If we do not know Him, we are not Christians.

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Jws have a much better teaching---
Michael the archangel's life- force was put into Mary's ovum and Michael went out of existence.
That impersonal life-force did nothing per watchtower teachings that anyone can find.
But when Jesus was baptized He became Christ and Lord.
When Jesus was crucified, that impersonal life- force went back to heaven and Jehovah used it again to to recreate Michael who you now refer to as, Jesus- even though the man, Jesus is dead forever, & dissolved into gases.

Jesus returned in 1914 invisibly-- and He chose the watchtower as best church in 1919, so only they have truth, because they are "the Truth" and only they a preach a new gospel of the kingdom-The 1914 gospel of paradise earth. Which Jws are to preach as works.

All of that took place so that when a JW dies physically they have paid their sin debt to Jehovah.
But since Michael/Jesus died to pay for Adamic sin to pave the way so a Jws can have a chance to--
live on a paradise earth for 1000 yrs with JW leaders and Michael/ Jesus et al ruling over them,
but if they sin once- boom dead.

I left a ton of goodies & details out of course, out like false prophecies, flip flops, lies and more lies, and new lights flashing that toss JWs to and fro constantly, but you get the idea.


Where as basic Christianity is simple- We preach Christ crucified. - And RISEN- His death paid for our sins, so we may walk in new life, being born of the Spirit who worship God in the Spirit and Truth in Christ- our good works result from our faith-.
We receive everlasting life in Christ as the free gift of God.

"The Spirit and the bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost." Rev 22:17
 

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Before Adam was caused to become Spiritually Alive, he was only a body made of dirt.
('Spiritually'. Heh)
Its the Spirit, that lives IN the BODY, that is the LIFE..... (It is not a being inhabiting our bodies)
.....and once your body is buried or cremated, you will continue. (NOT in the Bible)
Its only your body that they are going to bury or cremate. (True, the breath-spirit-power- returned to God)
The GRAVE is not the end of you @theJW ...., its the eternal DOOR that leads your Spirit into God's ETERNITY, and if you are not born again before your body dies....., your spiritual eternity wont be found with God's Family. (Church Coprolite)
Adam STOPPED LIVING as a soul.
He wasn't sent to Hellfire, Purgatory, or Heaven.
He DIED!
 

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Adam STOPPED LIVING as a soul.

Stop guessing, @theJW

Let me show you something.

Man, is a Tri-Part being.

Body
Soul
Spirit

The Body dies.
The Soul, is the "mind, will, and emotions"..

The Spirit, is your eternal being, who lives in the Earth Suit, (dying body) and is operated by your free will.
 

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Stop guessing, @theJW

Let me show you something.

Man, is a Tri-Part being.

Body
Soul
Spirit

The Body dies.
The Soul, is the "mind, will, and emotions"..

The Spirit, is your eternal being, who lives in the Earth Suit, (dying body) and is operated by your free will.
Stop guessing.
Adam and Eve went NOWHERE but to their graves (hell).
 

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Stop guessing.
Adam and Eve went NOWHERE but to their graves (hell).

Old Testament Saints, who were covered by God's atonement, which at that time, came as animal blood or as "faith is counted as righteousness".. didnt go to Hell.
They went to "paradise" or what the bible refers to as "Abraham's Bosom".

If you own a bible, .. turn it to a Gospel and read what Jesus said to the Dying Thief, who had believed in Him.

Jesus told Him... "today, you will be with ME... in paradise"...... not Heaven.

See that?

That's where Adam and Eve and all the OT Saints went, except for those like Elijah.