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Matthew 2:2 (ESV)
2 saying, “Where is he who has been born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”
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Matthew 2:2 (ESV)
2 saying, “Where is he who has been born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”
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Matthew 2:2 (NASB)
2 "Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to WORSHIP Him."
Yes, he really does think that Jesus lied about going to the Temple, and that His parables are lies.
That's what he said. I put the link in my post if you want to go read it. Post #429
I considered showing him why that's incorrect, but he's not a nice person & I dont have the interest to constantly argue with people that already know everything.
No, it isn’t.
Some will not be given a resurrection, like Judas Iscariot.
(Whoever else, is up to God…& Jesus.
What Romans 6:7 tells us, is that death is the end. One who has died, doesn’t keep paying for their sin…there’s no torment, or any kind of further payment.
Staying dead is what would be the outcome, IF it weren’t for Christ’s ransom sacrifice. Through Him, the dead will live again!
Understanding this is very important, because the Bible informs us that right now, the dead are sleeping. They are not aware of anything. (Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalm 146:3,4; Genesis 3:19. See John 11:11-14) So they’re not *paying* for any of their past sins… unless, like Judas Iscariot, they’ve been deemed unworthy of living again. (See Matt.23:33) They’ll just stay dead forever.
That’s what the Lake of Fire represents: dead (or gone) forever!
That’s good enough!
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For crying out loud woman, read Romans 6 IN CONTEXT.
It's a simple as YOU JWS deny new birth, new life, died with christ, baptized into his death etc!!! What a mess !!
I think Paul wrote this just for JWs sometimes..
18For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
19For it is written,
“I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE,
AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE.”
20Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 1 Cor 1
JESUS CRUCIFIED----HE IS YOUR ANSWER! Wake O sleeper!
But no, you JWs know a better way. Good grief.
11Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; 12for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. 13But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light.
14For this reason it says,
“Awake, sleeper,
And arise from the dead,
And Christ will shine on you.”
And working together with Him, we also urge you not to receive the grace of God in vain— 2for He says,
“AT A FAVORABLE TIME I LISTENED TO YOU,
AND ON A DAY OF SALVATION I HELPED YOU.”
Behold, now is “A FAVORABLE TIME,” behold, now is “A DAY OF SALVATION”
IT is BELONG TO CHRIST- OR- DIE -FOREVER.-
Let no one lie to you. The Watchtower IS WRONG!
well, of course he has 2. like Jws.
Isaiah 43:11
“I, even I, am the LORD,
And there is no savior besides Me.
Jos_5:14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
Wrangler
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Its obvious that any translation with "James' in the title is among the worst translations available today in English. Beyond is the fallacy of the argument as one can pray or worship anyone and it does not make the other person God.
Wrangler
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That what that thread was about where he claims Jesus is a liar. Go read it.
It's classic. This thread is SO simple. JWS read romans 6 in context- it doesnt mean what JWs cherrypick out of it.-- It's is about our life now while alive in CHRIST! Can a JW read that? NOPE. The WTBS didnt tell them yet. It is only then that they will. they are puppets of the tower.
But poofff- someone turns it AWAY from the topic into how hot is hell or the trinity is evil while JW Michael's impersonal life-force in Mary's ovum is IGNORED. Jws rejoice in the bliss of their drool over the changed subject to their pet drivel.
I will say ONE thing for JWS- they are smart as in cunning- and know what to avoid in their teachings and what to start endless debates over. They have 2 pet topics or Havent you noticed? they go NOWHERE.
The sad thing is that CHRISTIANS NEVER learn those topics are their bait, so they CAN AVOID all of their other false teachinsg which deny them Christ.- and it still APPEARS as if they are actually participating in a real debate. They post the same 10 verses over and over regardless of context. These peope dont know their bibles! It's a con game and it works everytime. Christians will argue with anyone. duh
And you expect them to grasp anything you show them? HOW CAN THEY when they deny the BASIC GOSPEL?
The JW gospel is 1914 invisible return of Michael who picked them as top church (while they creature worshiped Russell lol) so you cant work as a Jw to maybe get a resurrection to prove yourself worthy over the next 1000 years----where their leaders rule over them..
They are under the spell of pathetic LIARS & they themselves are children of those liars who LIVE to deceive others.
You are wasting your time while feeding their dripping tongues.
NEVER expect them to comprehend a thing if they reject the basic GOSPEL! Teach them the gospel first-- and/or help me to show them why those whom they listen to are liars.
Nothing will change with JWs rank & file until they see that their leaders are dishonest. Please understand that about JWs. They do not mean to, but they worship DECEITFUL BLIND MEN.
They can't hear you or me OR Jesus HIMSELF EVEN IF if He stood right next to them & spoke if the WTBS told them not to listen.
KNOW THAT.
THIS Is wicked mind control.
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Keiw
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That proves your darkness 100% Because the real Jesus points his real followers to his Father in all things. See Matt 6:33 he teaches to seek his Fathers righteousness first not his own. See John 4:22-24--He teaches the true followers will worship the Father in spirit and truth=0 mention of 3. Its you who will not listen to Jesus.
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