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Again, this is where you are not thinking rationally here. Who is more likely to be more correct on the Greek language? A person who does multiple dictionaries in Greek or the Bible scholar here in America who cannot even order a pizza in Greek? Yes, there is the Koine Greek. He knows Koine Greek better than they do because he spent most of his life studying these languages. He also agrees with a Greek grammarian of the past, as well.
Look buddy. There is this thing called the internet and even AI searches (like Perplexity.ai and ChatGPT). What you did not know now, you can simply know in a few seconds. You owe to yourself to know this person because he has written multiple dictionaries in Modern Greek and he is a top Greek grammarian who lives in Greece and his native tongue is Greek.
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I am not impressed by your education in five countries. If you fail to continue to learn and gather new information to think critically and rationally, then those educational institutions have failed to truly teach you. Again, I am not trying to wound you here. You are simply not gathering new information when it is presented to you. You are not thinking rationally. Most Christians prefer to trust the Bible on the creation account (Which implies strongly a young Earth and no Evolution). Any outside ideas of an old Earth, and Evolution is something a person has to cram into the Bible. But hey, if you are liberal when it comes to the Bible, it doesn’t really matter what the Bible actually says. One becomes their own authority.
Are they on the level like a Georgios Babiniotis? Most likely not. Again, I would encourage you to research him online or YouTube. Do your own investigation. Please do not take the blue pill and continue to live in ignorance.
Jehovah’s Witnesses follow the New World Translation. This ties in with spiritist, Johannes Greber.
Johannes Greber used to be a Catholic priest. He began healing sessions. He talked to various spirits that said there is no hell or no blood atonement. The spirits also told him to never ever trust the Received Text (i.e., the Textus Receptus). After he got kicked out of the priesthood in Germany, he came to the United States, and he did a New Testament translation of the Bible into English. It is still the BIble used by the spiritualist church to this day. Greber talks about how the spirits guided him in every word of his translation. In 1 John 4:2, it says trust the spirits. Not even Modern Bibles have this rendering. The Jehovah’s Witnesses had Greber’s Translation in front of them when they did their New Testament translation. John 1:1 rendering in the NWT came from Greber’s translation. His NT Greek is based on the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus.
As for Calvinists: While there are some KJV-only Calvinists, there are also a lot of Calvinists who are for the Modern Bibles, and they defend the Critical Text, which flies in the face of Bible history and common sense, especially seeing that they do not fall into the liberal camp. Again, please understand I am not friend of Calvinism by any means. But they are not a liberal group (Despite their wrong beliefs in Calvinism).
Georgios Babiniotis has not declared to have any affiliation of religious denomination (Although he is the Former Minister of Education, Lifelong Learning and Religious Affairs of Greece).
The point here is that Georgios Babiniotis is an expert in the language of Greek (including Modern Greek and Koine Greek). I would take his expertise on the issue over yours and or any scholar any given day of the week. Nick Sayers (KJV / TR advocate) contacted Georgios Babiniotis about the validity of the claims of Greek Orthodox professor Eugenius Voulgaris (who lived from 1716-1806) who defended the Johannine Comma on grammatical grounds.
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Right, so then why not apply 2 Timothy 2:15 and 2 Timothy 3:16-17 to your life? Oh, that‘s right. You came up with some man made verse in your head that this is only for pastors, elders, and teachers. So again, you are condemning others for that which you are stating does not apply to you in the Bible. Why study the Bible according to 2 Timothy 2:15 (which obviously is to be applied to your life) if it only applies to pastors, elders, and teachers?
Do you know that they used the Dead Sea scrolls in some Modern Bibles? You know what’s funny about that. The Bible Museum just proved that the Dead Sea scrolls are fakes. You are following the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus as the oldest and best manuscripts because that is what Westcott and Hort and their following Movement has said. Based on more recent reports of examination of these two manuscripts, they are actually junk manuscripts. I have spoken about this in this thread already. Erasmus even rejected the Vaticanus (and he was regarded as one of the top Greek biblical scholars even by other Greek people). Sinaiticus was found in the fake Sinai location. So this does not leave us with any other good options but the TR and the KJV.
We only have the word of shady men in scholarship who defend manuscripts that lead to Catholic ideas, and Unitarianism. In fact, Catholics and Unitarians are shacking up with Modern Bibles. Then there are the deceptions (or lies) in the Modern Bible Movement. The half title page of the Revised Version said it was the version set forth in 1611AD. This is a lie because it does not even have the Comma in it. The scholars even tried to be sneaky and move the words in the other verses to replace the empty spot where the Comma was originally at. The more honest thing to do is tell the truth, but they did not do that. So if they lie to us about things like that, then why I am going to trust them that the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus are better? Just because something is older does not mean it is better. There can exist a pagan document before Christ, but that does mean it is spiritually correct because it is older. Marcion even corrupted the Scriptures. They are old Scriptures but that does not make them more accurate.
Lucifer means "light bearer." Scripture tells us this is what it means. “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." (2 Corinthians 11:14). The word "angel" also means "messenger." So, 2 Corinthians 11:14 says Satan is a "messenger of light" or "light bearer." In fact, when Satan is described as having all kinds of jewelry on him (Ezekiel 28:13), this symbolizes who he was. Certain gemstones refract light. They do not emit their own light; they merely reflect whatever surrounding light exists. Gemstones are like little light bearers. So, how fitting the name "Lucifer" is for the devil. Yet, modern Bibles seek to give the devil two names that are tied to Jesus Christ. This is wrong (of course). (Note: Modern Bibles rename Lucifer as ”Day Star” and “Shining Star.” - which are names tied to Jesus).
So you said you went to five countries to be educated. Those schools are fired. They should have taught you that when you look up a word in the dictionary that there are multiple different definitions or entries for a word. Meaning, words can have multiple meanings and they are not locked into having only one meaning alone. According to regular educational sources, the Greek word here can be defined as either wisemen or sorcerers. It depends on the context. Just like the English word “bark” can mean like the bark of a dog or it could mean the bark on a tree. The context would determine this.
You’re not getting it. The scholars were duped into thinking these were legit when they were frauds.
The LXX is a fraud. This has been stated even by those who are not KJV-only advocates.
I do accept other things in history. But the Bible is my primary trusted document before I believe anything else.
Ah, I forgot. You believe in a flat Earth. That to me is tin foil hat level silliness. But I am not going to argue with you on that because we did so before on this forum.
I don’t think you understand what is going on here. Put your detective cap on for a moment and truly think here a moment. If the Comma was an addition to the text, then why does its absence cause two grammar errors? Why does its inclusion fix the grammar errors? Obviously you have not even investigated the issues involved. Your Greek is also not on the level as it should be if you are not even aware of these grammar problems, as well. In other words, the scholars are lying about the Comma. The grammar errors in the Greek is just one of the many evidences that proves this.
If that was the case, then you would be all over Georgios like white on Chinese rice. But the fact of the matter is that because you have bought into the lies by Modern scholars, it has not allowed you to see the truth of the evidences that support the TR and the KJV.
But Georgios agrees with a Biblical Greek scholar of the past when it comes to defending the inclusion of the Comma.
I am so happy that you know that…and not only that but Christian Greek words do not have the same meanings than Koiné Greek words do nor the social religious contexts.
Again I do not know ole Georgyo so what can I say. But if he does not know about how the Comma came about there is holes in his knowledge. I am done talking about Georgyo.
I gave you new information and you rejected it. No need to keep going on back and forth here (endlessly).
And you are rejecting new information as I just stated. This means you are not really after the truth as you said before.
Not too long ago you were defending the idea that the KJV was in error somehow. But my point is that words in Greek can have different meanings just like English. Now, you agree with me. You are backpedaling.
