Lucifer the once beautifully arrayed angel... explain please!

[Pyreaux]

No one revolts from God! No One! Silly child... Look at the universe... You think for 1 second a created being could do such a thing...

Satan is God's instrument... created for It's purpose!

NASB Pro 16:4 The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.

KJV Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


KJV Amo 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and
the LORD hath not done it?

KJV Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? Shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips. ( Also Job 1:21)

KJV 1Ki 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

ESV Ecc 9:12 For man does not know his time. Like fish that are taken in an evil net, and like birds that are caught in a snare, so the children of man are snared at an evil time, when it suddenly falls upon them.

KJV Ecc 1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore7451 travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.

Word Study: H7451 רע ra‛, ָרָעה
rā‛āh: An adjective meaning bad, evil.

Concordant OT Ecc 1:13 “It is an experience of evil Elohin [God] has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.”

KJV Lam 3:38 Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?

What happened to David?

2Sa 24:1 Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go, number Israel and Judah." Who is He? God? Shouldn’t the he be capitalized?

1Ch 21:7 But God was displeased with this thing, and he struck Israel.

How did God incite David? Who or what was God’s instrument?

1Ch 21:1 Then Satan stood against Israel and incited David to number Israel.

NASB Ecc 3:10 I have seen the task which God has given the sons of men with which to occupy themselves.

Ecc 3:11 He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity5769 in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.

KJV Ecc 3:10 I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.

Ecc 3:11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

H5769 עלם עולם ‛ôlâm ‛ôlâm
o-lawm', o-lawm'
From H5956; properly concealed, that is, the vanishing point; generally time out of mind


Translation: So God makes everything proper and appropriate for His Plan, but He has put obscurity in their hearts.. so that, or in order that they cannot know or understandwhat it is that He is doing to them in this human existence we call life.


Does God use evil to chastise or punish us? 2 Sam 12:11; Jer. 18:11; 1Sam 16:14

Evil Defense
ESV Hab 1:13 You who are of purer eyes than to see evil and cannot look at wrong, why do you idly look at traitors and are silent when the wicked swallows up the man more righteous than he?

YLT Hab 1:13 Purer of eyes than to behold evil, To look on perverseness Thou art not able, Why dost Thou behold the treacherous? Thou keepest silent when the wicked Doth swallow the more righteous than he,

TLivingB Hab 1:13 “We are wicked, but they are far more! Will you [God], Who cannot allow sin in any form, stand idly by while they swallow us up? Should You be silent while the wicked destroy those who are better than they?

Read Hab 1:1-12 and you will see God using the Chaldeans.

Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Isa 63:17 O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear?

Return for thy servants' sake, the tribes of thine inheritance.

And... even after my post... You still remain clueless... Read it again!!!
Paul

Its relative. Revolting angels unaware they a part of God's plans is no less a revolting angel like any revolting human is. The Serpent and Adam are both punished having disobeyed God's commands and seemingly his will, while we see they both in reality fulfilled God's plan, not thwarted it. The lamb had been already slain from the beginning of the world, therefore the Fall was planned. Angels can and do revolt, they have free will, even if it's ultimately an illusion. If devils aren't absolved of their guilt, they must be responsible for their actions in some way. If you remain clueless... read it again, extreme one.

 

[face2face]

Devil
Slanderer
Accuser
Tempter
Ruler of demons
Evil one
Enemy
Father of lies
Murderer
Ruler of this World
god of this age
Adversary
Roaring Lion
Deceiver of the whole world
Prince of devils
Dragon
That Old Serpent

The Flesh is manifested in so many ways!

 

[Taken]

The Flesh is manifested in so many ways!

That is an odd comment contextually regarding fallen angels who are spirits.

 

[face2face]

That is an odd comment contextually regarding fallen angels who are spirits.

Contexually you don't have fallen angles that's the issue.

 

[Taken]

Contexually you don't have fallen angles that's the issue.

ODD response … to a point I never made.

 

[face2face]

ODD response … to a point I never made.

Your list is symbolic of the flesh...thats the point being made.

 

[Aunty Jane]

It's not a science problem. The Bible tells us where it was located:

Ezekiel 31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

The famous Cedars of Lebanon do not grow all over the country. They only grow on the eastern slopes of the Lebanon mountain range... i.e. in the Beqaa valley.

Again with the volume of water that covered the earth in Noah’s day, the visual landscape would not have remained the same. Even the rivers could have been rerouted.

And the trees…? It has been revealed that palm trees and ferns have been discovered under the icy landscape of Antarctica…..palm trees grow in temperate climates. So even the presence of the trees would not convince me completely that the flood could not have changed earth’s landscape completely…..discoveries of the buried remains of vast numbers of animals have also been discovered in places not of their natural habitat.

I believe that the flood changed everything so that God could start again, controlling demonic interference in his purpose without eliminating them completely as he was going to use the rebellion as an object lesson for all his intelligent creation. We are nearing the completion of that exercise, so that what was taken from us in the beginning, is restored to faithful and obedient ones in the end….both in heaven and on earth.

 

[Taken]

Your list is symbolic of the flesh...thats the point being made.

Gods GIFT of SALVATION IS His to Give according to His Order and Way…

You targeting and preaching AGAINST individuals WHO HAVE ACCEPTED and RECEIVED Gods Gift of SALVATION once and Forever…

I am suspect, that has come to the Lord Gods attention … and my attention, that you tipped toed around answering my question on such topic.

 

[face2face]

Gods GIFT of SALVATION IS His to Give according to His Order and Way…

Correct

You targeting and preaching AGAINST individuals WHO HAVE ACCEPTED and RECEIVED Gods Gift of SALVATION once and Forever…

You make it sound sinister when in fact I am defending what is truth. That work has been done and the doctrine of OSAS has been put down as false. I've also put down the false teaching of fallen angels as none have shown evidence from the Word.

I am suspect, that has come to the Lord Gods attention … and my attention, that you tipped toed around answering my question on such topic.

You can be as suspect as you want. If you are teaching false hope and false teachings it will only hurt you alone.

F2F

 

[Aunty Jane]

You make it sound sinister when in fact I am defending what is truth. That work has been done and the doctrine of OSAS has been put down as false. I've also put down the false teaching of fallen angels as none have shown evidence from the Word.

The doctrine of OSAS is false because salvation can only be attained if one remains in the teachings of the Christ.…a condition that must last until death.

Jude wrote….
“Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints. For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 1:3-6….NASB)

If salvation cannot be lost, Jude’s words are meaningless….why would we have to “contend earnestly for the faith” if it cannot be lost? “Faithful unto death” is the prerequisite. (Rev 2:10)

But as for the teachings about “fallen angels”……these are as old as the flood of Noah’s day…..

Jude continues..…..
“Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day”. (NASB)

2 Peter 2:4-6, 9…..NASB…
”For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into [Tartarus] and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; . . . .having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter; . . . .then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment”.

Who are those “angels” who “did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper abode”…and who “sinned”?
These “sons of God” materialized in Noah’s day and set mankind on a course that clashed with his purpose, so he removed them in spectacular fashion.….creating a precedent for the age to come. (Matt 24:37-39)

Without the rebellion of the first angel, the rest would have kept to their “proper abode” because all rebellion begins in the mind of a free willed rebel, who then attracts like minded ones to join him.

Your claims are without foundation in this.

 

[face2face]

The doctrine of OSAS is false because salvation can only be attained if one remains in the teachings of the Christ.…a condition that must last until death.

Totally agree

Jude wrote….
“Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints. For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 1:3-6….NASB)

If salvation cannot be lost, Jude’s words are meaningless….why would we have to “contend earnestly for the faith” if it cannot be lost? “Faithful unto death” is the prerequisite. (Rev 2:10)

Again agree

But as for the teachings about “fallen angels”……these are as old as the flood of Noah’s day…..

Jude continues..…..
“Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day”. (NASB)

The obvious problem you have with this interpratation is they (messengers) are held powerless which is not your typical fallen angel teaching.

I know what you want this to mean and say however the context in Jude is very clear:

1:4 For certain men have secretly slipped in among you—men who long ago were marked out for the condemnation I am about to describe—ungodly men who have turned the grace of our God into a license for evil and who deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Jud 3–4.

Which men abandoned their first estate?

Here is evidence that the human angels were the 250 princes of the Israelitish congregation which were led in rebellion by Korah, Dathan and Abiram. (Num. 16). Consider the following:

1. They were "aggeloi" (angels) since they were assigned to "minister" to the congregation. (Num 16:9)
2. Their "first estate" or "principality" (Jude 6.) was that of "princes" or "leaders" R.S.V. (Num. 16:2).
3. They left this "former estate" when they sought the priesthood. (Num. 16:10).
4. They were delivered into "chains of darkness" when they were swallowed alive by the earth. (Num. 16:31-33)
5. They were "sinners" in arrogating to themselves the priesthood. (Num. 16:10, 38).
6. The judgment is that which will be administered by Christ. (2 Tim. 4:1).
7. Those who opposed Moses in the rebellion of Korah were called the "sons of Levi" (Num. 16:8). In Malachi 2:7 we find that the levitical priests were also called "messengers ("aggeloi") of the LORD."

Both the context of Jude and the Numbers 16 references reveal they were men who rebelled against God and suffered His judgements.

I have confidence in your Scriptural integrity and have done so since we first communicated. Don't be concerned about other passages for the moment. Get this locked away and then approach the rest with comparing Scripture with Scripture.

2 Peter 2:4-6, 9…..NASB…
”For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into [Tartarus] and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; . . . .having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter; . . . .then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment”.

Who are those “angels” who “did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper abode”…and who “sinned”?
These “sons of God” materialized in Noah’s day and set mankind on a course that clashed with his purpose, so he removed them in spectacular fashion.….creating a precedent for the age to come. (Matt 24:37-39)

Without the rebellion of the first angel, the rest would have kept to their “proper abode” because all rebellion begins in the mind of a free willed rebel, who then attracts like minded ones to join him.

Your claims are without foundation in this.

Why the change in chronology of Jude?

2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but threw them into hell (grave) and locked them up in chains in utter darkness, to be kept until the judgment, 2 Pe 2:4.

Verse 4 in Peter's account is connected with verse 1.

"But there were false prophets also among the people, (i.e., Israel of old) even as there shall be false teachers among you . . ."

Verses 2 and 3 are a warning of false teachers to come in the future, but verse 4 reverts to verse 1 and illustrates the judgment of God upon false prophets in Israel.

In verses 5-7, Peter guided by the Holy Spirit, selects two additional illustrations from Old Testament history.

You will see I have both context and OT Scripture on my side of this interpretation, whereas you will know the OT is silent on Divine Messengers sinning.

F2F

 

[Taken]

You make it sound sinister when in fact I am defending what is truth.

In Fact, each member of this forum is making statements of what they Believe and is their Truth, Based on the Extent of their own sources, hearing, learning, study, trusting, understanding.

That work has been done and the doctrine of OSAS has been put down as false.

You trust that which you choose.
I trust that which I choose.

Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

I've also put down the false teaching of fallen angels as none have shown evidence from the Word.

1 Cor 10:
[21] Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

You can be as suspect as you want. If you are teaching false hope and false teachings it will only hurt you alone.

You preach yourself as remaining the same, old, natural creature.

Myself, I elected to accept the Lord’s Offering, and Trust His IS Faithful to accomplish as He said.

A person willingly surrendering the WHOLE of himself, body, soul, spirit, unto the Lord God Almighty…not in the least do I agree with you is False Hope…
Rather as Scripture teaches…

2 Cor 5:
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Col 1:
[13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

1Thes.1
[10] And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[face2face]

In Fact, each member of this forum is making statements of what they Believe and is their Truth, Based on the Extent of their own sources, hearing, learning, study, trusting, understanding.

True, and many draw on those who are blind.

You trust that which you choose.
I trust that which I choose.

The basis of truth is the Word and providing this is agreed we can establish what is true.

Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

This is a true statement

1 Cor 10:
[21] Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

This is a true statement

You preach yourself as remaining the same, old, natural creature.

Myself, I elected to accept the Lord’s Offering, and Trust His IS Faithful to accomplish as He said.

Your opinion

A person willingly surrendering the WHOLE of himself, body, soul, spirit, unto the Lord God Almighty…not in the least do I agree with you is False Hope…
Rather as Scripture teaches…

2 Cor 5:
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Col 1:
[13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

1Thes.1
[10] And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.


Glory to God,
Taken

I understand why you hold so tightly to these verses, I do also, the difference is I am able to consider the warnings and understand their severity especially to those who don't know God or Christ and those who live lackadaisical lives.

Your unwillingness to be corrected is a sign of itself.

F2F

 

[Taken]

I understand why you hold so tightly to these verses, I do also, the difference is I am able to consider the warnings and understand their severity especially to those who don't know God or Christ and those who live lackadaisical lives.

Your unwillingness to be corrected is a sign of itself.

F2F

You present yourself in a quagmire…of opposites.

Purporting to hold to the Lord Gods Truth His Power KEEPS the Sanctified unto Himself…

THEN…you claim YOU are the one being Warned to KEEP your SALVATION…

Uh…absolutely I disagree with that oxymoron position.

ALL Scripture IS True, and for the benefit of ALL of manKIND.

A man WHO HAS an ESTABLISHED relationship being the Lord God IS “IN” a man and that man IS “IN” the Lord God…

Why do you teach and preach THAT MAN is BEING WARNED to KEEP his Salvation?

By DeFAULT, YOU ARE peaching and teaching….GOD POWER “IN” THAT man “IS NOT” sufficient to KEEP that man “with” the Lord God Forever…which IS FALSE.

1 John 4:
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

WARNINGS…you speak of ARE FOR MEN who BELIEVE….”but that they themselves HAVE NOT ANSWERED, by they themselves CALLING on the Lord to ACCEPT His OFFERING OF SALVATION”!

THEY are being WARNED…why? Of what?

OF WHAT? Powerful devils, Powerful positioned Governing men…who themselves REJECT God, and have “tickling ear” offers, promises, IF you MAKE THEM your MASTER, and not concern yourself with some god-thing!

WHY the WARNING? Because “IF” a believing man, DOES SO…acquiesce and subject himself TO an other TO BE his MASTER, his provider, his caretaker….
THEN…on the day of that mans PHYSICAL DEATH…

God Himself, searches THAT MANS TRUTH in his HEART (not his MIND)…TO SEE…WHO that man has been following AS HIS MASTER…
* the words and promises of his MASTER….the provisions of his Master… the thanking of his Master…the exalting of his Master.

God has provided a way and means to AID others in need…called Charity with a dose of Gods Word.

Religious Organizations and Political Organizations…ARE NOT automatically UPSTANDING by the TITLE their wear…

OPEN your Ears, OPEN your Eyes…WHEN “their” speech Conflicts with the Lord God and you elect to jump on board, with THEY being YOUR MASTER…
THAT is precisely the individual Scriptural WARNINGS are give TO.

Those WARNINGS do NOT Apply to me…as I have already called on the Lord and Heartfully declared, submitted and surrendered my WHOLE LIFE, body, soul, spirit, unto MY MASTER…the Lord God Almighty…that which IS KEPT for ever…BY the Lord God Almighty’s POWER…!!

You SHOULD Learn to CHOOSE which Individual you choose be, and Learn to “cherry-pick” which Scriptural TRUTHS do and do Not Apply to you.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Behold]

The Devil, before He was cast out of Heaven, was a "Cherub".
Apparently a specialized one.. = Anointed.

Find Him here, as a RANK..... as these 2 that are on the Ark of the Covenant, are the SAME, as "Lucifer"
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[Wick Stick]

Again with the volume of water that covered the earth in Noah’s day, the visual landscape would not have remained the same. Even the rivers could have been rerouted.

And the trees…? It has been revealed that palm trees and ferns have been discovered under the icy landscape of Antarctica…..palm trees grow in temperate climates. So even the presence of the trees would not convince me completely that the flood could not have changed earth’s landscape completely…..discoveries of the buried remains of vast numbers of animals have also been discovered in places not of their natural habitat.

I believe that the flood changed everything so that God could start again, controlling demonic interference in his purpose without eliminating them completely as he was going to use the rebellion as an object lesson for all his intelligent creation. We are nearing the completion of that exercise, so that what was taken from us in the beginning, is restored to faithful and obedient ones in the end….both in heaven and on earth.

That's all perfectly logical, but...

Ezekiel said Eden was in Lebanon. Was he wrong?

 

[strepho]

Ezekiel chapter 28 .

God created Lucifer the full pattern.
Beauty
Wisdom


He earned his position as cherub. At one time, Lucifer protected the Mercy seat. In first earth age.
Were in second earth age.

Pride corrupted his heart. He became evil.

He wanted the Mercy seat. To be messiah. God sentenced Lucifer to lake of fire on judgement day.

Self worship is pride.

He stopped loving God.

Pride.

Lucifer threw everything back in God's face.

Lucifer is dead man walking.

Satan can't be controlled.

He's going into lake of fire on judgement day.

Ezekiel chapter 28

 

[face2face]

Ezekiel chapter 28 .

God created Lucifer the full pattern.
Beauty
Wisdom


He earned his position as cherub. At one time, Lucifer protected the Mercy seat. In first earth age.
Were in second earth age.

Pride corrupted his heart. He became evil.

He wanted the Mercy seat. To be messiah. God sentenced Lucifer to lake of fire on judgement day.

Self worship is pride.

He stopped loving God.

Pride.

Lucifer threw everything back in God's face.

Lucifer is dead man walking.

Satan can't be controlled.

He's going into lake of fire on judgement day.

Ezekiel chapter 28

Ezekiel 28 has nothing to do with fallen angels or anything of the like. This is a case of people reading things into the Word which are not there.

F2F

 

[Aunty Jane]

That's all perfectly logical, but...

Ezekiel said Eden was in Lebanon. Was he wrong?

The cedar is used figuratively in the Bible.....in Ezekiel 17 for example, it says....vs 1-14

“In the 11th year, in the third month, on the first day of the month, the word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, say to Pharʹaoh king of Egypt and to his hordes,
‘Whom are you like in your greatness?
3 There was an As·syrʹi·an, a cedar in Lebʹa·non,
With beautiful branches like a shady thicket, lofty in stature;
Its top was among the clouds.
4 The waters made it grow big, the deep springs of water caused it to grow high.
Streams were all around where it was planted;
Their channels watered all the trees of the field.
5 That is why it grew taller than all the other trees of the field.
Its boughs multiplied, and its branches grew long
Because of the abundant water in its streams.
6 All the birds of the sky nested in its boughs,
All the wild animals of the field gave birth under its branches,
And all the populous nations were dwelling in its shade.
7 It became majestic in beauty and in the length of its branches,
For its roots went down into abundant waters.
8 No other cedars in the garden of God could compare to it.
None of the juniper trees had boughs like it,
And none of the plane trees could match its branches.
No other tree in the garden of God could rival its beauty.
9 I made it beautiful, with abundant foliage,
And all the other trees of Eʹden, the garden of the true God, envied it.’

10 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘Because it became so tall, lifting its top among the clouds, and its heart became arrogant because of its height, 11 I will hand it over to the mighty ruler of the nations. He will surely act against it, and I will reject it for its wickedness. 12 And foreigners, the most ruthless of the nations, will cut it down, and they will abandon it on the mountains, and its foliage will fall in all the valleys, and its branches will lie broken in all the streams of the land. All the peoples of the earth will depart from its shade and abandon it. 13 All the birds of the sky will live on its fallen trunk, and all the wild animals of the field on its branches. 14 This is so that no tree near the waters should grow so tall or lift up its top among the clouds and that no well-watered tree may reach up to them in height. For they will all be given over to death, to the land down below, along with the sons of mankind, who are going down into the pit.’”
This was addressed to Pharaoh....giving the example of an Assyrian king who was like that cedar.....tall, mighty and arrogant.

As I said, I don’t discount the literal proximity of the garden, but no one knows the exact location since the flood and the presence of the cherub, assigned to guard the way to “the tree of life”.... (Gen 3:22-24) as well as the “flaming blade of the sword” that would have been a beacon to those living in that region. Despite that, satan still managed to hook into human imperfection and took the whole human race off course....all except Noah.

 

[Wick Stick]

The cedar is used figuratively in the Bible.....in Ezekiel 17 for example, it says....vs 1-14

“In the 11th year, in the third month, on the first day of the month, the word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, say to Pharʹaoh king of Egypt and to his hordes,
‘Whom are you like in your greatness?
3 There was an As·syrʹi·an, a cedar in Lebʹa·non,
With beautiful branches like a shady thicket, lofty in stature;
Its top was among the clouds.
4 The waters made it grow big, the deep springs of water caused it to grow high.
Streams were all around where it was planted;
Their channels watered all the trees of the field.
5 That is why it grew taller than all the other trees of the field.
Its boughs multiplied, and its branches grew long
Because of the abundant water in its streams.
6 All the birds of the sky nested in its boughs,
All the wild animals of the field gave birth under its branches,
And all the populous nations were dwelling in its shade.
7 It became majestic in beauty and in the length of its branches,
For its roots went down into abundant waters.
8 No other cedars in the garden of God could compare to it.
None of the juniper trees had boughs like it,
And none of the plane trees could match its branches.
No other tree in the garden of God could rival its beauty.
9 I made it beautiful, with abundant foliage,
And all the other trees of Eʹden, the garden of the true God, envied it.’

10 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘Because it became so tall, lifting its top among the clouds, and its heart became arrogant because of its height, 11 I will hand it over to the mighty ruler of the nations. He will surely act against it, and I will reject it for its wickedness. 12 And foreigners, the most ruthless of the nations, will cut it down, and they will abandon it on the mountains, and its foliage will fall in all the valleys, and its branches will lie broken in all the streams of the land. All the peoples of the earth will depart from its shade and abandon it. 13 All the birds of the sky will live on its fallen trunk, and all the wild animals of the field on its branches. 14 This is so that no tree near the waters should grow so tall or lift up its top among the clouds and that no well-watered tree may reach up to them in height. For they will all be given over to death, to the land down below, along with the sons of mankind, who are going down into the pit.’”
This was addressed to Pharaoh....giving the example of an Assyrian king who was like that cedar.....tall, mighty and arrogant.

As I said, I don’t discount the literal proximity of the garden, but no one knows the exact location since the flood and the presence of the cherub, assigned to guard the way to “the tree of life”.... (Gen 3:22-24) as well as the “flaming blade of the sword” that would have been a beacon to those living in that region. Despite that, satan still managed to hook into human imperfection and took the whole human race off course....all except Noah.

"Trees" in the Bible frequently function as emblems of kings or nations.

For instance, Paul uses the olive tree as an emblem of Christ as King, and the nation made up of those 'natural branches' and 'grafted branches' attached to Him. (Romans 11)

In the gospels, the fig tree appears to be an emblem of Judah. Jesus found a fig tree that didn't bear fruit, and cursed it and it withered (Mark 11). The same emblem is used in Hosea:

Hosea 9:10: I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree...

In Judges 9, there is a whole conversation between various "trees" about who should be king:

Judges 9: The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive tree, Reign thou over us. But the olive tree said unto them, Should I leave my fatness, wherewith by me they honour God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees? Then said all the trees unto the bramble, Come thou, and reign over us. And the bramble said unto the trees, If in truth ye anoint me king over you, then come and put your trust in my shadow: and if not, let fire come out of the bramble, and devour the cedars of Lebanon.

If one were inclined to interpret the story of two trees in Eden rather than treat it literally (but I think you are literalist), then we might say that there were two kings in Eden, and Adam put his alliance with the wrong one.