Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

[Ritajanice]

WHY SPOT ON RIGHT SISTER . so how come so many now beleive the muslims and others serve the same GOD we do
maybe in just different ways . CAUSE that be A LIE SISTER . no man calleth JESUS accursed
THE MUSLIMS DONT EVEN consider HIM TO BE THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD . so , YEAH THEY DUPED BIG TIME as
is any other religoin . if even unbeliving jews didnt get a pass from JESUS , then why we gonna heed
todays men and todays false love which seems to be giving the entire world a pass about having
TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . I SHUN IT ALL sister . This lamb wont budge
from JESUS THE CHRIST OR ANYTHING HE TAUGHT . IF HE Said it GOD SAID IT by golly .

You know the truth, therefore keep preaching what the Lord places on your heart,Brother.

 

[amigo de christo]

We should always walk with Christ and follow The Way. If you do that we will be ready for the end of time.

But Christianity is not all about gloom and doom and love is a big part of Christianity. Yahweh’s love for us and Yeshua’s love for us. And our love for them and our love for each other.

So again what are you proposing?

yeah i would not sit under these men that always try and make the warnings seem as doom n gloom .
I shun they doctrine too .
Since when was being urgent and reminding folks that the coming of JESUS drew nigh
EVER SEEN as DOOM and GLOOM by paul who sait it often as did james and others .
ITS seen as doom and gloom today cause most folks TOO IN LOVE WITH THIS WORLD and THIS LIFE .
of course i am not accusing you . just REMINDING US of a solid fact .

 

[St. SteVen]

Calvinism is not recent.

Recent is a relative term.

I haven't seen my relatives recently. - LOL

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[GRACE ambassador]

op: Do I believe Spirit Baptism 'replaces' water?
Back 'on topic' = Yes:

Baptized Into Christ By The Holy Spirit ( One Baptism! )

Amen.

 

[BarneyFife]

Recent is a relative term.

Agreed, which can make it pointless in a religious discussion at times.

:)

 

[amigo de christo]

Do you know some of the Jew still speak their language and there is no J in their language

i do understand that my friend .
I also understand a whole heap of folks
who now even use the name YESHUA , they also decieve the heck out of folks too .
We reallly need to learn the TEACHINGS of CHRIST , HIS WORDS , HIS sayings for ourselves
as well as what the apostels taught . too many men are DECIEVED my friend
and it dont seem to matter what group they are in either .
Kabbala has entered big time into the jewish movment . I bet most have heard the phrase SHIKANAH GLORY .
GUESS where it came from . THE KABBALA my friend .
THE JEWS have long been infected with it .
but the church just seems to take things FROM the jews and not rather FROM THE BIBLE itself .
I bet a lot of folks didnt know that . SHEKANAH GLORY . look it up and see what it means for you .
Kabbala is new age sister . many groups , even the jews
have always added things into TORAH , the law , the prophets , THAT NEVER should have been .
WELL they do it within christendom too . My desire is good for all , its why i do warn
and continue to remind .

 

[St. SteVen]

But Christianity is not all about gloom and doom and love is a big part of Christianity.

How does that work? Oh, I see...

Yahweh’s love for us and Yeshua’s love for us. And our love for them and our love for each other.

Like this...?
God's love for us and our love for each other. Our hatred of everyone else and God's hatred of everyone else.
Like that? Not ALL gloom and doom. ???

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[Johann]

at home . but very little . the church needs to boot out those in sin when they know they are in sin .
rebuke them sharply . do as real leaders taught the church to do .
I see absolutely no grave and sincere men hardly at all .
and if they are spotted , they most often wont preach a word about the goodness of GOD either .
Its a madhouse johann . i tell us its a madhouse .
But the one thing i seem to notice
about this church age is , IT JUST WONT READ THE BIBLE FOR ITSELF . rather odd dont ya think .
OH they can accuse me all day , they can say many things
but the last time i checked i never said FOLLOW ME , I SAY GET IN BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES .
and they WONT DO IT . gee i wonder why that is my friend . they had rather sit under men
that twist crap . GO to church on a sunday and let a preacher teach them
cause heaven forbid they actually spend time and prayer in the scrips , THEY GOT WAY TOO MUCH LIFE TO BE LIVING
and sin to be embracing . that is a fact johann . TOO Many have NO LOVE FOR GOD
they make NO TIME FOR HIM cept maybe an hour or two in a chruch .
the rest of the time spent is politics or debating others about what THEIR PASTOR said and not WHAT THE BIBLE actually says .

You come across as passive/aggressive--I don't have a TV nor a radio and no furniture.
Just saying.
J.

 

[amigo de christo]

Agreed, which can make it pointless in a religious discussion at times.

:)

hey barney i have a question for you .
DO you beleive the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT replaces the water one .
OR did you believe as did peter , when he even saw the gentiles recieve the baptism
of the SPIRIT and still say , HEY can any man forbid water that these may also be baptized .
I have a real simple saying .
IF the early church did it , WE DO IT . simple enough for me .

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Recent is a relative term.

Agreed, which can make it pointless in a religious discussion at times.

Not in the past. ???
It seems to be a recent development.

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[Grailhunter]

The exact same way PAUL taught the church to be with fellow believers in SIN , DONT EVEN EAT with such a one .
cast them out till they repent . OH but wait THAT IS HATE ISNT IT . WE BEEN DUPED . by fake men with a fake love .

So you don’t eat at restaurants?

A Christian’s jouney with Christ can be a journey of discovery and learning. They may not be right all the time and you and I may not be right all the time. Only Christ knows how that journey will turn out. But if you are saying to reject Christians and you turn them away from Christianity….will you be held accountable for their lost souls?

Better to set an example and disagree with false beliefs and sin. The scripture have a lot of information and not all understand it.

Would Christ want you to be Shepard or a condemner? Is it more important to lead a soul to the right path or make someone believe Christianity is a religion of condemnation and no love so that they reject Christianity. And YOU what will Christ say to you that preach a message of condemnation that offended what Christ called little ones….new Christians. What was that about a millstone?

 

[amigo de christo]

You come across as passive/aggressive--I don't have a TV nor a radio and no furniture.
Just saying.
J.

its rather odd you just said that . no passive agressive , i just speak the truth .
In fact if you go back and reread a lot of what i said
i was tying to tell you i aint saying that about you at all . you might be thinking i am , but i aint .
i just exposing what much of christendom has bought into . its not passive agressive .
though i do have to admit i hate every false way , doctrine . but not the person
just the doctrine . i mean i truly hate the false love which trods the dire necessity to have to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
under foot . I would pound every ounce of that false doctrine into the ground , burn every book
turn them into powder if i could . i hate false doctrine my friend .
but before you think that makes me wrong , read torah , read what early church even did
to their own false books they once had , BURNED THEM ALL . lit in up .
False doctrine is an affront to GOD . but the people i do weep for them my friend . in secrete i often do weep .
But the more i love the less i be loved my friend . its just the way it is .

 

[Grailhunter]

the worlds verision of LOVE is NOT part of christainity . That has been my point all along .
THE entire realm of christendom has long been taught NOT THE VERSION OF LOVE that came of GOD
but of the world .
LOVE , love
UNITY , unity
WE REALLY SHOULD have learned the bible for you know who , FOR OURSELVES .

Define Christian love and how to apply it to others.

 

[amigo de christo]

So you don’t eat at restaurants?

A Christian’s jouney with Christ can be a journey of discovery and learning. They may not be right all the time and you and I may not be right all the time. Only Christ knows how that journey will turn out. But if you are saying to reject Christians and you turn them away from Christianity….will you be held accountable for their lost souls?

Better to set an example and disagree with false beliefs and sin. The scripture have a lot of information and not all understand it.

Would Christ want you to be Shepard or a condemner? Is it more important to lead a soul to the right path or make someone believe Christianity is a religion of condemnation and no love so that they reject Christianity. And YOU what will Christ say to you that preach a message of condemnation that offended what Christ called little ones….new Christians. What was that about a millstone?

I cant afford to eat at restuarants . this lamb be rather poor my friend .
But there is nothing wrong with eating at a restaurant .
AND IF i did see a brother there who was iN SIN and had not repented and he came to eat with me
You can bet i would remind him and if he had not repented , I would NOT eat with him at all .

 

[amigo de christo]

Define Christian love and how to apply it to others.

Read the charity chapter .
Then go too and behold HOW JESUS interacted .
DID he go to dinner with those who invited him . YES HE DID
DID HE CORRECT their errors YES HE DID . HE didnt just sit and laugh and joke and make light of sin .

IF we go anywhere , we do not HIDE the light of CHRIST .
if anyone invites us to dinner , yes even unbelievers , we can go to dinner .
BUT we are responsible for them and to them .
We dont talk about the sinful things they do .
The thing is if we actually behaved as we should
folks might actually get saved , or , OR they would cast you out in time .
They would say , OH lets not invite that bible thumper again .
You see the reason why most folks keep getting invited back to dinners
with unbelievers , IS CAUSE THEY GO WITH THE FLOW OF THE UNBELIEVER .
But if we do as JESUS did , well you can bet two things . ONE they might repent and hear you . AMEN
or they might sit and say nothing or maybe mock . But soon enough you will be cast out for HIS name sake .
CAUSE WE DIDNT JUST GO WITH THE FLOW of sin . the church has no idea in large of what i am even talking about .
ITS been trying to find common ground for far too long .

 

[amigo de christo]

They changed the way we evanglize . rick warren was slick as was seeker friendly .

 

[amigo de christo]

Define Christian love and how to apply it to others.

christain love can be seen in what JESUS DID
and later what the apostels did . ps they did correct sin and error .
Even paul got so stirred up in the SPIRIT when he seen how they were given to IDOLARTY
that he CORRECTED IT . just saying .

 

[Johann]

its rather odd you just said that . no passive agressive , i just speak the truth .
In fact if you go back and reread a lot of what i said
i was tying to tell you i aint saying that about you at all . you might be thinking i am , but i aint .
i just exposing what much of christendom has bought into . its not passive agressive .
though i do have to admit i hate every false way , doctrine . but not the person
just the doctrine . i mean i truly hate the false love which trods the dire necessity to have to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
under foot . I would pound every ounce of that false doctrine into the ground , burn every book
turn them into powder if i could . i hate false doctrine my friend .
but before you think that makes me wrong , read torah , read what early church even did
to their own false books they once had , BURNED THEM ALL . lit in up .
False doctrine is an affront to GOD . but the people i do weep for them my friend . in secrete i often do weep .
But the more i love the less i be loved my friend . its just the way it is .

I'd rather stay on the dereck and walk alone with Jesus Christ-too many disagreements online from people I don't "see" in real life.
J.

 

[Ritajanice]

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

 

[amigo de christo]

I'd rather stay on the dereck and walk alone with Jesus Christ-too many disagreements online from people I don't "see" in real life.
J.

You know what would have been so nice
if folks had actually called one another and read the bible together over the phone .
I DO this and have done this with others . I mean JUST reading it my friend .
Things get cleared up real fast this way . internet witnessing can be quite tough indeed .
cause often folks either get too upset
or misunderstand and think maybe the other one is accusing them
or something . I have found it to be quite simple to just read the bible with folks
over the phone . very peaceful and very good for the soul too .