Do you believe Spirit baptism replaces water baptism?

[amigo de christo]

You can make your point but to some degree it does not matter because the word Jesus is not in the scriptures. In fact the names of God the Father and God the Son are not in the OT or NT. The Greek name that everyone points to in the NT for Jesus is not a name it is a Greek word that means healer, not his name. Yeshus' mother would not have named her Son with a Greek word. Her and her Son were Jewish.

No one knows where the word Jesus came from, just that it appears in the 17th century and by the way there are no "Js" in the Bible.... Yahweh and Yeshua.

they , he who has come in his own name and his men , have infiltrated christendom .
Many are not gonna make it . on the day of the LORD they will wail my friend .
expecting to see a jesus that did not exist but in the minds of men gone wrong .
We bess bible up . I seem to see many who will no longer even agree
with what i say about other religoins . less and less , day by day and hour by the hour
agree with me at all about this . They been taken down the wrong road and they love to have it so .
Hold not they breath waiting for me to cease my warnings .
All other religoins serve satan . there i said it .

 

[amigo de christo]

You can make your point but to some degree it does not matter because the word Jesus is not in the scriptures. In fact the names of God the Father and God the Son are not in the OT or NT. The Greek name that everyone points to in the NT for Jesus is not a name it is a Greek word that means healer, not his name. Yeshus' mother would not have named her Son with a Greek word. Her and her Son were Jewish.

No one knows where the word Jesus came from, just that it appears in the 17th century and by the way there are no "Js" in the Bible.... Yahweh and Yeshua.

since when did salvation come of the greeks . too many are being taken down the greek road .
thinking and believing that true men like tryndale , wycliff and others did not have the right stuff for the church .
That somehow in these latter years men have come to save us from this piss poor older translations by
showing us greek . FOLKS , you buying into a lie . we should have just stuck to the bible . over and out .

 

[amigo de christo]

You can make your point but to some degree it does not matter because the word Jesus is not in the scriptures. In fact the names of God the Father and God the Son are not in the OT or NT. The Greek name that everyone points to in the NT for Jesus is not a name it is a Greek word that means healer, not his name. Yeshus' mother would not have named her Son with a Greek word. Her and her Son were Jewish.

No one knows where the word Jesus came from, just that it appears in the 17th century and by the way there are no "Js" in the Bible.... Yahweh and Yeshua.

What if i told you the J sound had a Y sound .
i already know about the origins and history of english and that we did stem from the german langauge .
Had folks lived five or so centuries ago the name pronounced would have sounded
more like YESHUA .
But what concerns me even more is the teachings of CHRIST
most now only pick and choose a certain few
and omit the others . Even thinking to themselves
things that paul , john , james and EVEN CHRIST never implied about the jews .
The real JESUS told the UNBELEIVING JEWS , ye are of ya pappy the devil
and yet many today try and get us back to following the jews and even saying things
like they and others do not even have to believe in CHRIST JESUS . oh its a madhouse all right .

 

[Grailhunter]

they , he who has come in his own name and his men , have infiltrated christendom .
Many are not gonna make it . on the day of the LORD they will wail my friend .
expecting to see a jesus that did not exist but in the minds of men gone wrong .
We bess bible up . I seem to see many who will no longer even agree
with what i say about other religoins . less and less , day by day and hour by the hour
agree with me at all about this . They been taken down the wrong road and they love to have it so .
Hold not they breath waiting for me to cease my warnings .
All other religoins serve satan . there i said it .

I do listen to you and try to understand your concerns of what people believe. So be more specific.

 

[amigo de christo]

You can make your point but to some degree it does not matter because the word Jesus is not in the scriptures. In fact the names of God the Father and God the Son are not in the OT or NT. The Greek name that everyone points to in the NT for Jesus is not a name it is a Greek word that means healer, not his name. Yeshus' mother would not have named her Son with a Greek word. Her and her Son were Jewish.

No one knows where the word Jesus came from, just that it appears in the 17th century and by the way there are no "Js" in the Bible.... Yahweh and Yeshua.

finding common ground is of the devil and i just bet its big time found its way into the jewish movments .
ITS Infiltrated everything . Building bridges , tearing down walls
alpha courses , meditation practices , sounds and chants
contemplative prayer , its all come in and done to to lead every one astray and away from the TRUE CHRIST .
Unity unity unity
and love love love is about most all you gonna hear in a lot of chruches today . THEY BEEN INFECTED big time .
And all not in the lambs book of life THEY GONNA GO THIS WAY . there is nothing i can do to stop it either .
I can only warn and the lambs ,they will hear . we got DUPED .

 

[amigo de christo]

I do listen to you and try to understand your concerns of what people believe. So be more specific.

the idea that it is not necessary to actually have to beleive IN JESUS THE CHRIST , that is what most folks now buy into .
they have bought into a love gospel , and it aint LOVE and it aint of GOD EITHER .
even claiming muslims and all worship the same God we do , in different ways oretc . NO THEY WORSHIP THE DEVIL .
that is a fact . how fast
churches have swallowed up a lie just cause it came under the guise of the word love . how fast . its gonna get much worse
and very fast too .

 

[BarneyFife]

I agree, But...
- OSAS is not a part of the New Age Movement.
- Eternal security is indeed part of what Christ and the Apostles taught.
- And certainly a part of Christian history. (eternal security) as opposed to eternal insecurity.
- Granted, the term "OSAS" is recent...
- Not sure that OSAS (eternal security) has anything to do with Calvinism, ???

Grailhunter said:
OSAS is part of the New Age Movement. OSAS is not a belief that Christ or the Apostles taught, it is not what the history of Christianity taught.....You do not see it in Christian history until relatively recently. As part of Calvinism it is just part of a false religion, the man was nutz.

]

Calvinism is not recent.

:)

 

[Grailhunter]

What if i told you the J sound had a Y sound .

Do you know some of the Jew still speak their language and there is no J in their language

 

[Grailhunter]

What if i told you the J sound had a Y sound .

This is not hard to confirm. You can go to something like the Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance and verify how words like Job, Jericho, and Joshua was pronounced in Hebrew and you can also look for words that are pronounced with a J. Sometime if you make it to Jerusalem ask a Jew how to pronounce the name of their city in Hebrew.

 

[Grailhunter]

its all come in and done to to lead every one astray and away from the TRUE CHRIST .

Ok friend lets start with this....
What do you think the True Christ is?

 

[Grailhunter]

Unity unity unity
and love love love is about most all you gonna hear in a lot of chruches today . THEY BEEN INFECTED big time .

And then you can go into this.
What are you proposing how Christians should be with other Christians?

 

[Grailhunter]

the idea that it is not necessary to actually have to beleive IN JESUS THE CHRIST , that is what most folks now buy into .
they have bought into a love gospel , and it aint LOVE and it aint of GOD EITHER .
even claiming muslims and all worship the same God we do , in different ways oretc . NO THEY WORSHIP THE DEVIL .
that is a fact . how fast
churches have swallowed up a lie just cause it came under the guise of the word love . how fast . its gonna get much worse
and very fast too .

So love is not part of Christianity? What is the alternative?

 

[amigo de christo]

Ok friend lets start with this....
What do you think the True Christ is?

One who dont contradict , try and twist or omit what THE REAL JESUS said in that bible . HOWS that FOR STARTERS .
The TRUE CHRIST , dont contradict the TRUTH the apostels left us in THE BIBLE .
THE SPIRIT dont contradict and try and omit it and say things like OH that was for that generation blah blah blah .
Men gonna do as men gonna do and there is NOT a thing i can do to change that or stop it .
BUT , i can say BIBLE TIME FOLKS , ya should have learned FOR YOURSELVES .
And i can bring said scriptures to expose satans all inclusive lie and all who do its work .
Many think we got years left till a strong delusion comes .
NO SIR . ITS HERE and on the move RIGHT NOW only most think its love and of GOD . fact . this is an actual FACT .
Many think and tell themselves oh we got lots of time left
we still have to see this , we still have to see that . OH ITS HERE and its been at work .
Too many following men who preach a holly wood style version of anti christ
too many learning this trib or that trib
this dispensation or that dispensation . THEY CANNOT SEE THE FOREST . all they see is lots of trees . OH BUTS ITS HERE
its been here amongst us and it is gathering all tribes , all religoins by means of common ground and a false love
And all for what they think is gonna usher in world peace n safety . RATHER SUDDEN DESTRUCTION .

 

[amigo de christo]

And then you can go into this.
What are you proposing how Christians should be with other Christians?

The exact same way PAUL taught the church to be with fellow believers in SIN , DONT EVEN EAT with such a one .
cast them out till they repent . OH but wait THAT IS HATE ISNT IT . WE BEEN DUPED . by fake men with a fake love .

 

[Johann]

The exact same way PAUL taught the church to be with fellow believers in SIN , DONT EVEN EAT with such a one .
cast them out till they repent . OH but wait THAT IS HATE ISNT IT . WE BEEN DUPED . by fake men with a fake love .

You still gym?

 

[amigo de christo]

So love is not part of Christianity? What is the alternative?

the worlds verision of LOVE is NOT part of christainity . That has been my point all along .
THE entire realm of christendom has long been taught NOT THE VERSION OF LOVE that came of GOD
but of the world .
LOVE , love
UNITY , unity
WE REALLY SHOULD have learned the bible for you know who , FOR OURSELVES .

 

[Ritajanice]

the idea that it is not necessary to actually have to beleive IN JESUS THE CHRIST , that is what most folks now buy into .

No believing in Jesus no Born Again by divine revelation..even then God brings us to believe in the Name Of Jesus.

1 Corinthians 12:3​

“Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and thatno man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.”


Only Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit can witness the truth of Jesus ...to our heart/ spirit....you can’t believe in Jesus without the Spirit testifying that truth to our heart/ spirit by divine revelation

Water baptism cannot give you divine revelation...it represents the spiritual birth....out with the old life in with the new life in Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

You still gym?

at home . but very little . the church needs to boot out those in sin when they know they are in sin .
rebuke them sharply . do as real leaders taught the church to do .
I see absolutely no grave and sincere men hardly at all .
and if they are spotted , they most often wont preach a word about the goodness of GOD either .
Its a madhouse johann . i tell us its a madhouse .
But the one thing i seem to notice
about this church age is , IT JUST WONT READ THE BIBLE FOR ITSELF . rather odd dont ya think .
OH they can accuse me all day , they can say many things
but the last time i checked i never said FOLLOW ME , I SAY GET IN BIBLE FOR YOURSELVES .
and they WONT DO IT . gee i wonder why that is my friend . they had rather sit under men
that twist crap . GO to church on a sunday and let a preacher teach them
cause heaven forbid they actually spend time and prayer in the scrips , THEY GOT WAY TOO MUCH LIFE TO BE LIVING
and sin to be embracing . that is a fact johann . TOO Many have NO LOVE FOR GOD
they make NO TIME FOR HIM cept maybe an hour or two in a chruch .
the rest of the time spent is politics or debating others about what THEIR PASTOR said and not WHAT THE BIBLE actually says .

 

[amigo de christo]

No believing in Jesus no Born Again by divine revelation..even then God brings us to believe in the Name Of Jesus.

1 Corinthians 12:3​

“Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and thatno man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.”


Only Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit can witness the truth of Jesus ...to our heart/ spirit....you can’t believe in Jesus without the Spirit testifying that truth to our heart/ spirit by divine revelation

Water baptism cannot give you divine revelation.

WHY SPOT ON RIGHT SISTER . so how come so many now beleive the muslims and others serve the same GOD we do
maybe in just different ways . CAUSE that be A LIE SISTER . no man calleth JESUS accursed
THE MUSLIMS DONT EVEN consider HIM TO BE THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD . so , YEAH THEY DUPED BIG TIME as
is any other religoin . if even unbeliving jews didnt get a pass from JESUS , then why we gonna heed
todays men and todays false love which seems to be giving the entire world a pass about having
TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . I SHUN IT ALL sister . This lamb wont budge
from JESUS THE CHRIST OR ANYTHING HE TAUGHT . IF HE Said it GOD SAID IT by golly .

 

[Grailhunter]

One who dont contradict , try and twist or omit what THE REAL JESUS said in that bible . HOWS that FOR STARTERS .
The TRUE CHRIST , dont contradict the TRUTH the apostels left us in THE BIBLE .
THE SPIRIT dont contradict and try and omit it and say things like OH that was for that generation blah blah blah .
Men gonna do as men gonna do and there is NOT a thing i can do to change that or stop it .
BUT , i can say BIBLE TIME FOLKS , ya should have learned FOR YOURSELVES .
And i can bring said scriptures to expose satans all inclusive lie and all who do its work .
Many think we got years left till a strong delusion comes .
NO SIR . ITS HERE and on the move RIGHT NOW only most think its love and of GOD . fact . this is an actual FACT .
Many think and tell themselves oh we got lots of time left
we still have to see this , we still have to see that . OH ITS HERE and its been at work .
Too many following men who preach a holly wood style version of anti christ
too many learning this trib or that trib
this dispensation or that dispensation . THEY CANNOT SEE THE FOREST . all they see is lots of trees . OH BUTS ITS HERE
its been here amongst us and it is gathering all tribes , all religoins by means of common ground and a false love
And all for what they think is gonna usher in world peace n safety . RATHER SUDDEN DESTRUCTION .

We should always walk with Christ and follow The Way. If you do that we will be ready for the end of time.

But Christianity is not all about gloom and doom and love is a big part of Christianity. Yahweh’s love for us and Yeshua’s love for us. And our love for them and our love for each other.

So again what are you proposing?