Is “Easter” in the original Scriptures?

[Aunty Jane]

From the beginning of time man has given his very BEST to God.

Solomin’s Temple is described as having been more opulent and beautiful than ANY building we have today – complete with large statues, gold inlay, incense, etc..

Was God “disgusted” but this?? NO – He was pleased by it.
The Holy Spirit came down as fire from Heaven to consume the burnt offering (2 Chron. 7:7).

Do you know what’s missing in this justification...?
God’s command and sanction on the construction.
Jesus told his disciples that the Temple would be destroyed and it has never been rebuilt.....it never will be either because there is no longer a need for a Temple on earth. Christ offered his sacrifice once for all time so that no sacrifices are now necessary for the forgiveness of sins.

What Christendom has built in her grand cathedrals are monument to themselves.....God has never set foot in any of them.
There was no earthly priesthood to serve at any of these “temples”.....their priesthood was to be served in heaven, in the role of “kings and priests” and only a chosen few would have that privilege (Rev 20:6)......this is a priesthood that cannot be corrupted like the Jewish priesthood and those serving in Christendom’s temples with their grand attire and opulent surroundings. What use is another corrupt priesthood of self serving men?

The Didache is NOT Scripture.

However – it is an historical reflection on the First century Church and their practices.

Funny thing about people like YOU who demand Scripture verses for everything. You can never seem to prove the man-made made 16th century invention of Sola Scriptura. However, you reject what Scripture itself states about ORAL Tradition (2 Thess. 2:15)

Is history always an accurate portrayal of what actually happened? Look back at the white man’s history told through his own distorted lens.....it’s not the story told from the other side, is it? He whitewashes his wickedness and justifies his bloodshed.....the church has much blood on her hands. (Isa 1:15)

If Jesus and his apostles appealed to God’s word as their authority, can we guess why “the church” dumped them in favour of making their own rules? Someone replaced Jesus, who replaced God. God gave no such authority.
Power corrupts humans, which is why Jesus dismissed all authority (as power over others) in the Christian congregation.....(Matt 23:7-12) he replaced it with positions of oversight, with spiritually qualified men who had responsibilities, as well as accountability.....there was no power ever given to them....”all were brothers”. These taught only what Jesus taught them. They did not go outside of those boundaries....yet “the church” took many leaps, adopting all manner of beliefs and practices that had no place at all in God’s worship.

You are welcome to the devil’s counterfeit......I’ll pass thank you.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Which was on a cross according to God's Word.

No, sorry, that is not true....do some research on the origin of the cross.....there is no mention of a cross in the Bible.

Yes and in Numbers 21:8-9 the Lord had them look upon a serpent and they got healed

It is totally illogical to think that looking at a bronze image could heal anyone and the Lord used the cross for the same purpose. It's relevant to the Lord and it should be to us as well.

I always smile when this is brought up.....that bronze image, Moses was actually commanded by God to make, not the people. In later times when the Israelites made an idol of it, God had it destroyed.....

The cross is not a fit symbol for anything related to God.....it is of grubby pagan origin....and nothing in the Bible tells us what configuration this Roman “stauros” was. People have made an idol out of it.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Moses was actually commanded by God to make

Exactly, God said to use something that was evil, which is why the cross was used at calvary.

We have historical evidence that the romans at the time frame in which Jesus was on earth had perfected the art of crucifying people on a cross, so enjoy whatever reality that is you are living in.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Exactly, God said to use something that was evil, which is why the cross was used at calvary.

That is an assumption on your part actually. The copper serpent was made to save the unfaithful Israelites from certain death, but when it became an idol, God had it destroyed. The cross has become an idol too.....
When God said “do not make an image of anything” I’m sure he meant it.

We have historical evidence that the romans at the time frame in which Jesus was on earth had perfected the art of crucifying people on a cross, so enjoy whatever reality that is you are living in.

Yes, but no one knows what configuration the Roman implement of torture was in Jesus’ case, because they had several methods, and one was not a cross at all as I have shown in the illustrations I posted.
Crucifixion was not necessarily on a cross.

Why glorify the instrument used to put Jesus to death...that is macabre.

My reality is scripturally and historically based.....not ‘churchianity’ based.
I need no idols to worship the true God.....he hates idolatry.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

A lot of people have no problem with “Easter eggs”.....or with “Easter” at all.....and that in itself says a lot because we know the origin of these supposedly “Christian” celebrations and that goes against everything the Scriptures teach about fusing God’s truth with the devil’s counterfeit religions.

2 Cor 6:14-18...
“Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? 15 Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beʹli·al? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” 17 “‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” 18 “‘And I will become a father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah, the Almighty.”

If we want God to accept us as his “sons and daughters”...we better not be caught celebrating paganism dressed up as “Christianity”. It does not “Christianize” the paganism, but “paganizes” the Christianity. Pagan traditions introduced long ago, render worthless worship to a God who tolerates no compromise with the devil....there is to be “no sharing”.

If we are not to “touch” what is spiritually “unclean” to God, then who can we blame if he decides we are disobedient and rebellious children who are not worthy to be called his own? It’s not about what is acceptable to us.....it’s about what is acceptable to God.

All Christians should acknowledge and celebrate the Resurrection of Christ each year. But Easter eggs represent Tammuz, not Jesus Christ.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Traditions have an origin…..a man-made origin. What did Jesus say about the adopted “traditions“ of the Pharisees? These claimed to worship the true God too….
Matt 15:7-9…
”You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: 8 ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”

Man made traditions, given a “Christian” facade, do not make them acceptable to God.…they made the worship of the Jews a “vain“ pursuit. “The commands of men” can never be true doctrines.

Where is that stated in the Bible? Easter and it’s “eggs” are not of Biblical origin at all….it comes from adopted pagan celebrations, along with all its traditions.
Red is the devil’s color….the wild beast is scarlet colored, and is ridden by the harlot in Revelation 17:3-6.
She sits astride this beast confidently believing that she will never suffer harm, but inexplicably, without warning, the beast turns on her and completely destroys her……this is the end of false religion forever.

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…and also the colors “purple and scarlet” feature in his counterfeit religion…..

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Where would we find Jesus or his apostles dressed like this? And in the presence of idols?
This is man made religion….the priesthood of Christ was not to be served on earth…it is served in heaven.
Those chosen for the heavenly priesthood knew that there was never going to be another earthly temple and that they would serve redeemed mankind from heaven. What Jesus left us were humble shepherds….never anything like this.

Indeed….some homework is needed to counteract the falsehood being promoted by an apostate church trying to cover up her pagan traditions by giving them a “Christian“ label.
God is not fooled for a moment.

This Pope has recently declared that homosexual marriages will from now on be recognized by the Catholic Church. Don't know if that means they will be officiating them as well.

 

[Aunty Jane]

All Christians should acknowledge and celebrate the Resurrection of Christ each year. But Easter eggs represent Tammuz, not Jesus Christ.

It was truly a wonderful miracle.....but there is no command to celebrate it.....it is Christ's death that paid the redemption price set by God's law....that is what he asked us to remember.

This Pope has recently declared that homosexual marriages will from now on be recognized by the Catholic Church. Don't know if that means they will be officiating them as well.

Just one more step away from Christ's teachings.....there are almost too many to count already.

From the Bible's point of view, those who support or even silently approve of the ones doing things that God condemns, will be counted in with them.
This is what the Revelation says about "Babylon the great"....the devil's world empire of false religion....those who teach that there is more than one god, or that God can exist in three forms......that there is an immortal soul that does not die, leaving the body at death......and that there is a hell of eternal fiery torment where God tortures the wicked.....all false religions teach these things in one form or another...the Bible does not.

God's command is to.... “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind."

God's "people" must not delay in removing themselves from false worship, no matter what form it takes. Just passively sitting there whilst not removing yourself is tantamount to approving of what she is doing......leading people away from the true God by inventing false ones, and currying favor with the world. (James 4:4)

Christendom's god cannot be found in the Bible.....therefore they do not know the true God.

John 17:3..."This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ."
Knowing "the only true God" and "the one he sent", for who they truly are, is a salvation issue.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

This Pope has recently declared that homosexual marriages will from now on be recognized by the Catholic Church. Don't know if that means they will be officiating them as well.

it means catholics are all turning gay!

 

[mailmandan]

It's the difference between saying, "if your faith is real saving faith you will do good works, being saved now", and saying "through your faith and works you gain your salvation in the end."

James addresses those who do not have works challenging whether their faith is real. He is giving a test to show true saving faith compared to demon type believing that does not save. There is no statement made about works being part of what saves us.

”show me your faith without works, and I will show you my faith by my works”, James wrote under inspiration."

Works demonstrate a true faith, which is exactly what James wrote. They do not supplement faith in a salvific way. It is not of works, so no one can boast about themself.

Much love!

Amen! Man is saved through faith and not by works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9); yet genuine faith is (evidenced) by works. (James 2:14-26)

*Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption "alone" and not based on the merits of our works. (Romans 3:24-28)

It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not based on the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 4:5-6; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies does not remain alone (unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine. (James 2:14-26) *Perfect Harmony*

 

[BarneyFife]

it means catholics are all turning gay!

I hear the klan is having a recruiting drive in the Denver area.

Or are you one of those Catholic-haters that loves Jewish people?

'Cause that'd never work for ya.

Btw, glad to have you back, BB - lol.

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[Johann]

it means catholics are all turning gay!

Wouldn't say that--I know of many sincere born again believers in Christ Jesus in the RCC or CC.

 

[Johann]

So now you can see how this led to the Bible Scholars changing Gods truth, to their preconception of what it was, yet it was from another tradition, not of God.

I don't appreciate this-casting doubt on the Scriptures.

Easter, as it is commonly understood today, refers to the Christian celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. However, the term "Easter" itself is not found in the original Hebrew or Greek texts of the Bible. Instead, the celebration of the resurrection is associated with the Jewish festival of Passover, which is called פֶּסַח (Pesach) in Hebrew and πάσχα (Pascha) in Greek.

Greek and Hebrew Terms
Hebrew: פֶּסַח (Pesach)

This term refers to the Jewish festival of Passover, commemorating the Israelites' exodus from Egypt. It is mentioned frequently in the Old Testament, particularly in the book of Exodus.
Example: Exodus 12:27 - "That you shall say, ‘It is the sacrifice of the Lord’s Passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt when He struck the Egyptians and delivered our households.’”
Greek: πάσχα (Pascha)

In the New Testament, the Greek term "Pascha" is used to refer to Passover. The early Christians adopted this term to refer to the celebration of the resurrection of Jesus, which occurred during the Passover festival.
Example: Matthew 26:2 - "You know that after two days is the Passover, and the Son of Man will be delivered up to be crucified."
Scriptural Context
Acts 12:4 (KJV):
In the King James Version of the Bible, the word "Easter" appears in Acts 12:4: "And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people."
However, the Greek word used here is πάσχα (Pascha), which should be translated as "Passover". The use of "Easter" in the KJV is an anachronism and is not found in the original Greek manuscripts.
Conclusion
The term "Easter" itself is not found in the original Hebrew or Greek scriptures. Instead, the biblical texts refer to Passover (Pesach/Pascha). The early Christians began to associate the resurrection of Jesus with the Passover festival, and over time, the celebration became known as Easter in English-speaking cultures. However, in many other languages and traditions, the celebration is still referred to as "Pascha," directly linking it to its Passover roots.

So this is not a "Gotcha!" See--how "they" corrupted the KJV and I am not a KJV-Onlyist.

 

[doctrox]

However, the Greek word used here is πάσχα (Pascha), which should be translated as "Passover". ...original Greek manuscripts.

'Should be this, should be that.' Rather, one should PRAY before one READS. Where, O where is the discernment? The truth has never been about any worldly "originals" argument from wannabee "scholars," but about the faithful preservation of God's inspired word.

For example, when we come to the Authorized Version, there is but one instance of the word "Easter" -- Acts 12:4.

It is precisely in this one passage that "Easter" must be used, and the translation "Passover" would have conflicted with the immediate context. In their rush to accuse the Authorized Version of error, many have not taken the time to consider what the passage actually says:

....(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)...intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. (Acts 12:3-4)

To begin with, the Passover occurred before the feast of unleavened bread, not after!

And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord. And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten. (Number 28:16-17). See also Mark 14:12, I Cor. 5:7-8, etc.

Herod put Peter in prison during the days of unleavened bread , and therefore after the Passover. The argument that the translation "Passover" should have been used as it is intended to refer to the entire period, is ruled out by the inclusion of "these were the days of unleavened bread." Scripture does not use the word "Passover" to refer to the entire period.

 

[Johann]

Herod put Peter in prison during the days of unleavened bread , and therefore after the Passover. The argument that the translation "Passover" should have been used as it is intended to refer to the entire period, is ruled out by the inclusion of "these were the days of unleavened bread." Scripture does not use the word "Passover" to refer to the entire period.

Context of Acts 12:3-4: The relevant passage in Acts 12:3-4 states, "When he saw that this pleased the Jews, he proceeded to seize Peter also. This happened during the Festival of Unleavened Bread. After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover."

Passover and Unleavened Bread: The Jewish festival period includes the Passover (Pesach), which is the first day, followed by the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Chag HaMatzot), which lasts for seven days (Leviticus 23:5-8). The term "Passover" can sometimes be used to refer to the entire eight-day period, especially in Hellenistic and later Jewish contexts, though it specifically denotes the first day.

Translation and Terminology: The argument regarding the translation of "Passover" (Greek: Πάσχα, Pascha) hinges on whether it should denote the single day or the entire feast period. In Acts 12:3-4, the term "Passover" is used but the context clarifies it refers to the period of Unleavened Bread which follows the initial Passover meal.

Scriptural Usage: While it is true that in certain contexts "Passover" refers strictly to the single day of the 14th of Nisan (Exodus 12:6), it is not entirely accurate to claim that Scripture never uses "Passover" to refer to the entire period. Luke, the author of Acts, reflects a Hellenistic Jewish understanding where "Passover" might colloquially refer to the whole feast.

Therefore, your statement needs adjustment: Herod put Peter in prison during the days of Unleavened Bread, following the Passover. While "Passover" can sometimes be used to refer to the whole period, in this context, "days of Unleavened Bread" specifies the period within the feast. The phrase "Passover" in Acts 12:4 is used in a broader sense to include the festival period, indicating Herod's intention to bring Peter to trial after the feast concluded.

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't appreciate this-casting doubt on the Scriptures.

Easter, as it is commonly understood today, refers to the Christian celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. However, the term "Easter" itself is not found in the original Hebrew or Greek texts of the Bible. Instead, the celebration of the resurrection is associated with the Jewish festival of Passover, which is called פֶּסַח (Pesach) in Hebrew and πάσχα (Pascha) in Greek.

Greek and Hebrew Terms
Hebrew: פֶּסַח (Pesach)

This term refers to the Jewish festival of Passover, commemorating the Israelites' exodus from Egypt. It is mentioned frequently in the Old Testament, particularly in the book of Exodus.
Example: Exodus 12:27 - "That you shall say, ‘It is the sacrifice of the Lord’s Passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt when He struck the Egyptians and delivered our households.’”
Greek: πάσχα (Pascha)

In the New Testament, the Greek term "Pascha" is used to refer to Passover. The early Christians adopted this term to refer to the celebration of the resurrection of Jesus, which occurred during the Passover festival.
Example: Matthew 26:2 - "You know that after two days is the Passover, and the Son of Man will be delivered up to be crucified."
Scriptural Context
Acts 12:4 (KJV):
In the King James Version of the Bible, the word "Easter" appears in Acts 12:4: "And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people."
However, the Greek word used here is πάσχα (Pascha), which should be translated as "Passover". The use of "Easter" in the KJV is an anachronism and is not found in the original Greek manuscripts.
Conclusion
The term "Easter" itself is not found in the original Hebrew or Greek scriptures. Instead, the biblical texts refer to Passover (Pesach/Pascha). The early Christians began to associate the resurrection of Jesus with the Passover festival, and over time, the celebration became known as Easter in English-speaking cultures. However, in many other languages and traditions, the celebration is still referred to as "Pascha," directly linking it to its Passover roots.

So this is not a "Gotcha!" See--how "they" corrupted the KJV and I am not a KJV-Onlyist.

Even if it meant passover the KJV is still by far the best translation .
I have read the geneva and other older versions too .
its the newer ones who interjected more thoughts as to what it verses mean rather than direct translation .
And some are far far worse than others . This lamb is sticking to the KJV my friend .

 

[Johann]

Even if it meant passover the KJV is still by far the best translation .
I have read the geneva and other older versions too .
its the newer ones who interjected more thoughts as to what it verses mean rather than direct translation .
And some are far far worse than others . This lamb is sticking to the KJV my friend .

There is no problem with reading other translations to understand where "Pascha" fits, and it is narrow-minded to read only the KJV without studying Jewish sources regarding "Pascha."

Scriptural Context and Translation Analysis:

In Acts 12:3-4 (NIV), it is stated: "When he saw that this met with approval among the Jews, he proceeded to seize Peter also. This happened during the Festival of Unleavened Bread. After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover."

Passover and the Festival of Unleavened Bread: The Jewish festival period includes the Passover (Pesach), which is the first day, followed by the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Chag HaMatzot), which lasts for seven days (Leviticus 23:5-8). The term "Passover" can sometimes be used to refer to the entire eight-day period, especially in Hellenistic and later Jewish contexts, though it specifically denotes the first day.

Translation Variations: Comparing translations such as the ESV, NIV, and NASB can provide clarity. For instance, the ESV reads, "And when he had seized him, he put him in prison, delivering him over to four squads of soldiers to guard him, intending after the Passover to bring him out to the people."

Jewish Sources: Understanding the historical and cultural context from Jewish sources can further elucidate the meaning of "Pascha." The Mishnah and other Rabbinic writings often discuss Passover in terms of its broader festival context.

Broader Understanding: The KJV, while a respected translation, should not be the sole source for biblical interpretation. Engaging with other translations and Jewish sources allows for a fuller understanding of the text and its historical context.

Conclusion:

By studying different translations and Jewish sources, one can gain a deeper and more nuanced understanding of the term "Pascha" and its use in Scripture. The broader context provided by various translations and historical sources enriches our comprehension of biblical events and terminology.

We should read Scriptures with a Eastern mindset and not West @amigo de christo.

 

[amigo de christo]

There is no problem with reading other translations to understand where "Pascha" fits, and it is narrow-minded to read only the KJV without studying Jewish sources regarding "Pascha."

Scriptural Context and Translation Analysis:

In Acts 12:3-4 (NIV), it is stated: "When he saw that this met with approval among the Jews, he proceeded to seize Peter also. This happened during the Festival of Unleavened Bread. After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover."

Passover and the Festival of Unleavened Bread: The Jewish festival period includes the Passover (Pesach), which is the first day, followed by the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Chag HaMatzot), which lasts for seven days (Leviticus 23:5-8). The term "Passover" can sometimes be used to refer to the entire eight-day period, especially in Hellenistic and later Jewish contexts, though it specifically denotes the first day.

Translation Variations: Comparing translations such as the ESV, NIV, and NASB can provide clarity. For instance, the ESV reads, "And when he had seized him, he put him in prison, delivering him over to four squads of soldiers to guard him, intending after the Passover to bring him out to the people."

Jewish Sources: Understanding the historical and cultural context from Jewish sources can further elucidate the meaning of "Pascha." The Mishnah and other Rabbinic writings often discuss Passover in terms of its broader festival context.

Broader Understanding: The KJV, while a respected translation, should not be the sole source for biblical interpretation. Engaging with other translations and Jewish sources allows for a fuller understanding of the text and its historical context.

Conclusion:

By studying different translations and Jewish sources, one can gain a deeper and more nuanced understanding of the term "Pascha" and its use in Scripture. The broader context provided by various translations and historical sources enriches our comprehension of biblical events and terminology.

We should read Scriptures with a Eastern mindset and not West @amigo de christo.

We should read scripture . Not with the old mindset
but with the new mindset . The only way to get that new mindset
is to be born again and have all faith in JESUS the CHRIST .
For from the west and to the east and from the east and to the west , from the north to the south
and from the south to the north mans mindset can be seen . But there is a mindset
which cometh of GOD and that BY THE SPIRIT and if we has the love of GOD shed upon their hearts
than i tell us all even an uneducated slave could know the scrips far better than the most mighty scholars of men .
I got only ONE i can trust in my friend , HE has never led me astray
and has kept me safe . And has always corrected me and led me my friend .
And while i am not against using dictionaries and even using greek
My advice to all is that often at times men have used the greek
to MISLEAD the people .

 

[amigo de christo]

There is no problem with reading other translations to understand where "Pascha" fits, and it is narrow-minded to read only the KJV without studying Jewish sources regarding "Pascha."

Scriptural Context and Translation Analysis:

In Acts 12:3-4 (NIV), it is stated: "When he saw that this met with approval among the Jews, he proceeded to seize Peter also. This happened during the Festival of Unleavened Bread. After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover."

Passover and the Festival of Unleavened Bread: The Jewish festival period includes the Passover (Pesach), which is the first day, followed by the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Chag HaMatzot), which lasts for seven days (Leviticus 23:5-8). The term "Passover" can sometimes be used to refer to the entire eight-day period, especially in Hellenistic and later Jewish contexts, though it specifically denotes the first day.

Translation Variations: Comparing translations such as the ESV, NIV, and NASB can provide clarity. For instance, the ESV reads, "And when he had seized him, he put him in prison, delivering him over to four squads of soldiers to guard him, intending after the Passover to bring him out to the people."

Jewish Sources: Understanding the historical and cultural context from Jewish sources can further elucidate the meaning of "Pascha." The Mishnah and other Rabbinic writings often discuss Passover in terms of its broader festival context.

Broader Understanding: The KJV, while a respected translation, should not be the sole source for biblical interpretation. Engaging with other translations and Jewish sources allows for a fuller understanding of the text and its historical context.

Conclusion:

By studying different translations and Jewish sources, one can gain a deeper and more nuanced understanding of the term "Pascha" and its use in Scripture. The broader context provided by various translations and historical sources enriches our comprehension of biblical events and terminology.

We should read Scriptures with a Eastern mindset and not West @amigo de christo.

Oh my dear friend i have read quite a few versions .
Not all other versions but quite a few .
And believe me when i say i seen MEN all over them , some worse than others .
I am not against someone explaining a word by greek
but i have noticed and noticed more often than not , men using the greek
to twist and to omit what the scrip was really saying in the first place .
I seen it with A score of things . and each group thinking their man has it right .
And not only that but even their own scholars disagree with one the other and say YE have bad greek we have the good greek .
and all the while they justify each ones errenous interpretation .
I have seen adventist greek , jw greek , prosperity greek , mark of the beast greek
and scores of other greek . Not only do their greek twist the scrips to mean or to imply something else
But if you had them in a room you gonna see that even their own greek dont agree with the other ones greek .
SOUNDS to me like their greek is better known as , HERE is how we gonna get them to follow and believe us greek .
And we both know we dont want to follow such men . No worries my friend i do not even see you as an enemy at all .
Keep on marching onwards in the LORD my friend . I have just seen way too much greek that aint really greek per say
but its , here is how we get you greek .

 

[Johann]

We should read scripture . Not with the old mindset
but with the new mindset . The only way to get that new mindset
is to be born again and have all faith in JESUS the CHRIST .
For from the west and to the east and from the east and to the west , from the north to the south
and from the south to the north mans mindset can be seen . But there is a mindset
which cometh of GOD and that BY THE SPIRIT and if we has the love of GOD shed upon their hearts
than i tell us all even an uneducated slave could know the scrips far better than the most mighty scholars of men .
I got only ONE i can trust in my friend , HE has never led me astray
and has kept me safe . And has always corrected me and led me my friend .
And while i am not against using dictionaries and even using greek
My advice to all is that often at times men have used the greek
to MISLEAD the people .

Great--I am misleading people, not the first time you have made a remark like this.
I said with an Eastern mindset not West.

 

[amigo de christo]

i got a name for such greek . its called GOTCHA GREEK .