The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

[IndianaRob]

But in 70 AD neither Gentiles in unbelief, nor Gentiles of faith have achieved the fullness of the Gentiles. To this day Gentile nations are still seeking to destroy Israel. Both physically and spiritually.

Paul is here speaking of that which was a mystery before the first coming of Christ. That mystery Paul revealed to the Jews is that Gentiles too would be saved. Salvation and the Kingdom of God is not limited to only the biological seeds of Abraham, as the first century Jews believed.

When Paul was given to understand the mystery regarding salvation for Gentiles of faith with Jews of faith, God called him to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles. Paul tells us that when every Gentile to be saved has come into the Kingdom of God by grace through faith, together with Jews of faith ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED! Not a natural people, but ALL people of faith who are called "Israel of God." It is in this manner that Israel of faith shall be saved, and once the last one to be saved among the Gentile nations, then shall come the end when the last trumpet sounds and time given this earth for mankind to turn to Christ for salvation shall be no longer. John writes in the Revelation the sounding of the seventh trumpet signals the mystery of God is finished.

Galatians 6:15-16 (KJV) For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Romans 16:25-26 (KJV) Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Ephesians 3:3-6 (KJV) How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Romans 11:25-26 (KJV) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Revelation 10:6-7 (KJV) And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

But in 70 AD neither Gentiles in unbelief, nor Gentiles of faith have achieved the fullness of the Gentiles. To this day Gentile nations are still seeking to destroy Israel. Both physically and spiritually.

Paul is here speaking of that which was a mystery before the first coming of Christ. That mystery Paul revealed to the Jews is that Gentiles too would be saved. Salvation and the Kingdom of God is not limited to only the biological seeds of Abraham, as the first century Jews believed.

When Paul was given to understand the mystery regarding salvation for Gentiles of faith with Jews of faith, God called him to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles. Paul tells us that when every Gentile to be saved has come into the Kingdom of God by grace through faith, together with Jews of faith ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED! Not a natural people, but ALL people of faith who are called "Israel of God." It is in this manner that Israel of faith shall be saved, and once the last one to be saved among the Gentile nations, then shall come the end when the last trumpet sounds and time given this earth for mankind to turn to Christ for salvation shall be no longer. John writes in the Revelation the sounding of the seventh trumpet signals the mystery of God is finished.

Galatians 6:15-16 (KJV) For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Romans 16:25-26 (KJV) Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Ephesians 3:3-6 (KJV) How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Romans 11:25-26 (KJV) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Revelation 10:6-7 (KJV) And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

I understand what your saying.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

How can the martyred souls have lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years before they were martyred, and other faithful saints who are not among the martyred also reign with Christ a thousand years if a thousand years are literally one thousand years that will not come to pass until after the resurrection and judgment?

That is confused noise. The martyred souls said “and we shall reign on the earth.”

That is a forward looking statement when the time comes that “we shall” reign on earth “after”the resurrection at the last day.

There is harmony to the text not confused noise.

 

[honeycomb]

I'm pretty sure the fulness of the Gentiles was when God was done using the gentiles to judge Israel.

Hello, Rob. Here’s how I see it.

The fullness of the Gentiles is described in the Olivet Discourse, which is a prophecy of how it will be in the end times. This prophecy gives us the signs that we should be looking for before Jesus Christ returns.
"But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. "Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. "For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. "And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; "men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken. "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

- Luke 21:20-27

I believe Romans 11:25-27 happens during the millennium.
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins."

- Romans 11:25-27

God’s grace here: (also in the millennium)
O Israel, return to the LORD your God, For you have stumbled because of your iniquity; Take words with you, And return to the LORD. Say to Him, "Take away all iniquity; Receive us graciously, For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips. Assyria shall not save us, We will not ride on horses, Nor will we say anymore to the work of our hands, 'You are our gods.' For in You the fatherless finds mercy." "I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, For My anger has turned away from him. I will be like the dew to Israel; He shall grow like the lily, And lengthen his roots like Lebanon. His branches shall spread; His beauty shall be like an olive tree, And his fragrance like Lebanon. Those who dwell under his shadow shall return; They shall be revived like grain, And grow like a vine. Their scent shall be like the wine of Lebanon.

- Hosea 14:1-7


—PEtRA

 

[rwb]

This prophecy is about the second coming of Christ and the resurrection of the dead and living in Christ at the last day. You are in ERROR.

Is this really all you have? You have no better answer? I know from what I've read from other posts from you that you have pretty good knowledge of the Bible. My fear, and what I'm beginning to assume is that you may not have spiritual knowledge or even understand the Kingdom of God is a spiritual Kingdom that can only be known through spiritual discernment. Would you accept an answer as you've given from me as truth, if I simply reply, "you are in ERROR"? I think not! If you cannot show how I am in error using the Word of God then there is no reason that I should believe you, and in fact I'm left to assume you cannot biblically refute my reply because the doctrine I've given is biblical and cannot be biblically disproven.

 

[rwb]

That is confused noise. The martyred souls said “and we shall reign on the earth.”

That is a forward looking statement when the time comes that “we shall” reign on earth “after”the resurrection at the last day.

There is harmony to the text not confused noise.

Again, should we believe what you say without bringing forth verification from the Word of God to prove what you allege? I feel the only confusion comes from those who lack spiritual discernment of the spiritual Kingdom of God that is not of this earth, is not physical and cannot be seen though physical sight, and that only one who is born again of the Spirit may enter.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Again, should we believe what you say without bringing forth verification from the Word of God to prove what you allege? I feel the only confusion comes from those who lack spiritual discernment of the spiritual Kingdom of God that is not of this earth, is not physical and cannot be seen though physical sight, and that only one who is born again of the Spirit may enter.

I already did…..,.

I would say that Amil doctrine is in error then because the thousand year reign of Christ does not start until AFTER the resurrection and judgement at the last day.

Revelation 5:9-10

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9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 20:4-6

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4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years”

Harden not your heart to the Truth! Those who resist the Truth also resist the Spirit of Truth!

 

[rwb]

I already did…..,.

I would say that Amil doctrine is in error then because the thousand year reign of Christ does not start until AFTER the resurrection and judgement at the last day.

Revelation 5:9-10​

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9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 20:4-6​

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4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years”

Harden not your heart to the Truth! Those who resist the Truth also resist the Spirit of Truth!

Prove from the Scriptures the thousand years does not start until after the resurrection on the last day when the last trumpet sounds?

1 Corinthians 15:52 (KJV) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

If the dead in Christ shall NOT be raised until the last trump sounds, how can Christ reign on this earth a thousand more years since after the dead are raised this earth shall be consumed by the fire of God's wrath that shall come down from heaven?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

2 Peter 3:10 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Prove from the Scriptures the thousand years does not start until after the resurrection on the last day when the last trumpet sounds?

1 Corinthians 15:52 (KJV) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

If the dead in Christ shall NOT be raised until the last trump sounds, how can Christ reign on this earth a thousand more years since after the dead are raised this earth shall be consumed by the fire of God's wrath that shall come down from heaven?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

2 Peter 3:10 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 20

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20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[rwb]

Revelation 20​

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20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

When do you think this prophecy shall be fulfilled? You must know by now that it cannot be after the Lord comes again to establish the Kingdom of God on THIS earth? This earth and every living thing on it shall be burned up when Christ comes the second time. Why would Christ bring His Kingdom down to THIS earth if it will not be forever? Christ gives us assurance that when we are resurrected immortal & incorruptible the physical the life we shall have with Him then will NEVER END!!!

That's the reason John's prophecy only makes sense when we realize "a thousand years" is written to symbolize time/age/era that God gives humanity the message about His Son, the Gospel by which we MUST hear, and believe to be saved. But this time/age/era given the inhabitants of this earth has and end date, and that is in the days when the seventh trumpet begins to sound. There won't be another one thousand years given this earth for turning to Christ for salvation after He comes again!

Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Once the seventh angel sounds the only time remaining on this earth shall be for Satan to have his "little season." Then it shall be just as John has written: Revelation 20:3 (KJV) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Satan with his mighty army will have one final attempt to destroy the body of Christ (eternal Church) still alive on the earth when the seventh trump sounds. After he is set free and Satan has thoroughly encompassed the saints still alive on the earth, the saints will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, and the fiery wrath of God will be poured down from God out of heaven to devour them all and to burn up this earth and every living thing still alive on it. Then we look for a new heaven and new earth where nothing impure can enter for only righteousness shall be there. Not for one thousand literal years, but forever!

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

When do you think this prophecy shall be fulfilled? You must know by now that it cannot be after the Lord comes again to establish the Kingdom of God on THIS earth? This earth and every living thing on it shall be burned up when Christ comes the second time. Why would Christ bring His Kingdom down to THIS earth if it will not be forever? Christ gives us assurance that when we are resurrected immortal & incorruptible the physical the life we shall have with Him then will NEVER END!!!

That's the reason John's prophecy only makes sense when we realize "a thousand years" is written to symbolize time/age/era that God gives humanity the message about His Son, the Gospel by which we MUST hear, and believe to be saved. But this time/age/era given the inhabitants of this earth has and end date, and that is in the days when the seventh trumpet begins to sound. There won't be another one thousand years given this earth for turning to Christ for salvation after He comes again!

Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Once the seventh angel sounds the only time remaining on this earth shall be for Satan to have his "little season." Then it shall be just as John has written: Revelation 20:3 (KJV) And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Satan with his mighty army will have one final attempt to destroy the body of Christ (eternal Church) still alive on the earth when the seventh trump sounds. After he is set free and Satan has thoroughly encompassed the saints still alive on the earth, the saints will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, and the fiery wrath of God will be poured down from God out of heaven to devour them all and to burn up this earth and every living thing still alive on it. Then we look for a new heaven and new earth where nothing impure can enter for only righteousness shall be there. Not for one thousand literal years, but forever!

But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

 

[rwb]

But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Yes, as each and every faithful saint physically dies, we don't all die at once but one by one in his own order. When we die we are joined together with Christ the firstfruits to wait for the fulness of the Kingdom of God to come, because that will mark the end when the last Gentile to be saved has come into the spiritual Kingdom of God. When the Kingdom of God is complete the last enemy, physical death is no more, and all things are put under subjection that God may be all in all.

We long to be spiritually raised from our body of death so we turn to Christ for everlasting life. For that reason we are baptized unto Jesus, who is physically dead. Being baptized into His resurrection spiritual life showing we have part in the first resurrection when we are born again through His eternal Spirit. Because even though we know that Christ was dead and buried, we also know that death could not hold Him, and since He defeated death by His cross and resurrection death cannot hold all who have part in His resurrected life before we physically die.

1 Corinthians 15:29 (KJV) Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

 

[IndianaRob]

Hello, Rob. Here’s how I see it.

The fullness of the Gentiles is described in the Olivet Discourse, which is a prophecy of how it will be in the end times. This prophecy gives us the signs that we should be looking for before Jesus Christ returns.
"But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. "Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. "For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. "And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; "men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken. "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

- Luke 21:20-27

I believe Romans 11:25-27 happens during the millennium.
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins."

- Romans 11:25-27

God’s grace here: (also in the millennium)
O Israel, return to the LORD your God, For you have stumbled because of your iniquity; Take words with you, And return to the LORD. Say to Him, "Take away all iniquity; Receive us graciously, For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips. Assyria shall not save us, We will not ride on horses, Nor will we say anymore to the work of our hands, 'You are our gods.' For in You the fatherless finds mercy." "I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, For My anger has turned away from him. I will be like the dew to Israel; He shall grow like the lily, And lengthen his roots like Lebanon. His branches shall spread; His beauty shall be like an olive tree, And his fragrance like Lebanon. Those who dwell under his shadow shall return; They shall be revived like grain, And grow like a vine. Their scent shall be like the wine of Lebanon.

- Hosea 14:1-7


—PEtRA

PEtRA do you believe the Jews are under the new covenant right?

 

[honeycomb]

PEtRA do you believe the Jews are under the new covenant right?

Yes.

 

[Behold]

This is not good.
It happened today, 7-27-2024

Israel will now really harm them, and after that..... everything will change.
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"""""""At least 12 were killed and more than 30 were wounded in the Hezbollah rocket attack on Majdal Shams in the northern Golan Heights this evening.

The death toll is expected to rise, as at least three are listed in critical condition.

The IDF assesses that the rocket that struck the soccer field where kids were playing was relatively heavy.""""""

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

This is not good.
It happened today, 7-27-2024

Israel will now really harm them, and after that..... everything will change.
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"""""""At least six were killed and more than 30 were wounded in the Hezbollah rocket attack on Majdal Shams in the northern Golan Heights this evening.

The death toll is expected to rise, as at least three are listed in critical condition.

The IDF assesses that the rocket that struck the soccer field where kids were playing was relatively heavy.""""""

That is why Christians need to keep an eye on what is taking shape in this war between Israel and Iran along with Irans proxies ( the feet of the Bear kingdom). This could all lead to the battle of Armageddon really fast.

 

[Behold]

That is why Christians need to keep an eye on what is taking shape in this war between Israel and Iran along with Irans proxies ( the feet of the Bear kingdom). This could all lead to the battle of Armageddon really fast.

The Born again, need to keep an eye on Israel, as this is the "end game".

This can be especially difficult for Americans , when all their Media Outlets, will now be engaged in showing them Trump and Kamala.

So, keep Israel on your Radar, reader, as God is coming soon.

 

[IndianaRob]

This is not good.
It happened today, 7-27-2024

Israel will now really harm them, and after that..... everything will change.
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"""""""At least six were killed and more than 30 were wounded in the Hezbollah rocket attack on Majdal Shams in the northern Golan Heights this evening.

The death toll is expected to rise, as at least three are listed in critical condition.

The IDF assesses that the rocket that struck the soccer field where kids were playing was relatively heavy.""""""

Wq

This is not good.
It happened today, 7-27-2024

Israel will now really harm them, and after that..... everything will change.
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"""""""At least six were killed and more than 30 were wounded in the Hezbollah rocket attack on Majdal Shams in the northern Golan Heights this evening.

The death toll is expected to rise, as at least three are listed in critical condition.

The IDF assesses that the rocket that struck the soccer field where kids were playing was relatively heavy.""""""

Let’s pray that God wipes Israel out for brutally murdering all those innocent women and babies much of which are or rather were Christian but they’re dead now.

I just watched a video today where an aid worker said he had never seen so many babies with bullet holes in their heads.

 

[Behold]

Let’s pray that God wipes Israel out for brutally murdering all those innocent women and babies much of which are or rather were Christian but they’re dead now.

As long as Hamas and Hezbollah keep chaining themselves to Hospitals, School, and Churches, ... innocent Arabs are going to keep dying with these Muslim devils.

Or as an Islamic Military Leader recently said.... " our women and children make the best human shields".

 

[IndianaRob]

As long as Hamas and Hezbollah keep chaining themselves to Hospitals, School, and Churches, ... innocent Arabs are going to keep dying with these Muslim devils.

Or as an Islamic Military Leader recently said.... " our women and children make the best human shields

As long as Hamas and Hezbollah keep chaining themselves to Hospitals, School, and Churches, ... innocent Arabs are going to keep dying with these Muslim devils.

Or as an Islamic Military Leader recently said.... " our women and children make the best human shields".

Israel admitted to creating Hamas and the probably created Hezbollah to.

The only people who benefit from the Palestinian genocide is Israel.

 

[Behold]

Israel admitted to creating Hamas and the probably created Hezbollah to.

Last time the numbers were counted, Hamas and Hezbollah were Islamic.
Israel isn't.

Here is what you can count on.
Israel is going to Kill more "puppets of Iran" in the next 3 months, and it will be Hezbollah who is going to die, and they had no idea it was coming with such ferocious force.
Netanyhu has warned these incredible religious morons to "stop" or die, and they just think this is funny.
Today, Hezbollah bombed a playground, and at least 11 Jews are dead.. .so far., and this is going to capitulate into such a death of Hezbollah, that its going to be stunning, even to Iran, who is paying for all this DEATH, that is come to Arab Citizens as well.

So, as you want to point your ignorant finger and bent mentality in the direction of "blame", then blame Iran, this government, whose very Constitution says that the total elimination-annihilation = of Israel is the main priority. Is their reason to EXIST.
They are going to find out, that nothing is going to keep them safe, as the reality is, Israel has purposely held back from actually bombing the actual Leaders of Iran, In Iran.

= Coming soon....

Soon, Iran is going to lose their Nuke Facilities, and their Leadership needs to make peace with their "allah" as they are about to find out that there were no "virgins" waiting for them in "paradise".. as they are going to wake up in The Christian HELL, and wont they be surprised..

But thats ok, as Devils will get what they deserve..

- Count on it... "signed God"....

The only people who benefit from the Palestinian genocide is Israel.

You are confusing "fighting to stay alive" with "Genocide"

See, Israel does not shoot Rockets into Gaza... They shoot rockets at the Rockets and Rocket Launchers that these Muslim Devils hide next to their Civilians, in Gaza and everywhere else...these Devils HIDE themselves.