Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

[Jude Thaddeus]

Well, I stated the fact that there are many false prophets, in Christian circles as well.
After you did read my post you decided to attack me personally.
It shows your real character.

There is no use to reply any further to your ramblings.

 

[Jude Thaddeus]

In your own words, please describe what you think we think the trinity is. Do you even understand it correctly? If you don't, then you have no right to say it's wrong.

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[Keiw]

In your own words, please describe what you think we think the trinity is. Do you even understand it correctly? If you don't, then you have no right to say it's wrong.

The Abrahamic God= a single being God=YHVH(Jehovah)-- There is no trinity.

 

[Keiw]

Well, I stated the fact that there are many false prophets, in Christian circles as well.
After you did read my post you decided to attack me personally.
It shows your real character.

There is no use to reply any further to your ramblings.

0 response to Jesus' truth-- so you run. Better to have feelings hurt now than when this occurs--They will have to know i am Jehovah= in Ezekial prophecies about 20 x about these last days. Your altered translations removed Gods name against his will---to mislead. Over 7000 places.

 

[hies]

The Abrahamic God= a single being God

I agree. Thank you for demonstrating you don't understand.

 

[hies]

0 response to Jesus' truth-- so you run. Better to have feelings hurt now than when this occurs--They will have to know i am Jehovah= in Ezekial prophecies about 20 x about these last days. Your altered translations removed Gods name against his will---to mislead. Over 7000 places.

Too bad his name isn't even Jehovah

So you're guilty of what you're accusing others of doing. Lol.

 

[Keiw]

I agree. Thank you for demonstrating you don't understand.

I do understand-YHVH(Jehovah is a single being God, not a trinity.
Its 100% undeniable fact, in 381 ce =recorded history fact, Catholicism added the holy spirit to a godhead for the very first time at the council of Constantinople.

 

[Keiw]

Too bad his name isn't even Jehovah

So you're guilty of what you're accusing others of doing. Lol.

So says a man of darkness. Jehovah is his name and he will show this world very soon.

 

[hies]

I do understand-YHVH(Jehovah is a single being God, not a trinity.
Its 100% undeniable fact, in 381 ce =recorded history fact, Catholicism added the holy spirit to a godhead for the very first time at the council of Constantinople.

Yup, he is a single being. Never said he wasn't.

 

[hies]

So says a man of darkness. Jehovah is his name and he will show this world very soon.

Okay Satan. That's your name. Because Satan means "accuser". And all you've done is accuse me without evidence and without listening to a word I've said.

 

[Keiw]

Yup, he is a single being. Never said he wasn't.

Exactly-not a trinity.

 

[Keiw]

Okay Satan. That's your name. Because Satan means "accuser". And all you've done is accuse me without evidence and without listening to a word I've said.

I was talking about the link you shared-not you.

 

[hies]

Exactly-not a trinity.

The trinity is one being.

John 5:22-23 (NWT 2013)
22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the
Son, 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever
does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.

Jesus is the one doing all of the judging. The Father judges no one at all.

Matthew 16:27 (NWT 2013)
For the Son of man is to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then
he will repay each one according to his behavior.

Jesus is saying he will come in the glory of his Father, and he is saying “I will repay each one
according to his behaviour”.

Revelation 22:12 (NWT 2013)
“‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one
according to his work.

Since Jesus is the one who repays each one according to his work, who is speaking here? According
to what we just read in John and Matthew; it is Jesus.

Revelation 22:20 (NWT 2013)
“The one who bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes, I am coming quickly.’”
“Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.”

So, it is definitely Jesus speaking when saying “I am coming quickly”

Revelation 22:12-13 (NWT 2013)
“‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one
according to his work. 13 I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga, the first and the last,
the beginning and the end.

Jesus has just said that he is the Alpha and Omega, since he is the one speaking.

Revelation 21:6-7 (NWT 2013)
And he said to me: “They have come to pass! I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga,
the beginning and the end. To anyone thirsting I will give from the spring of the
water of life free. 7 Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I will be his
God and he will be my son.

Jesus is literally claiming to be God. Only God can be Alpha and Omega. Also see Isaiah 44:6, and Revelation 1:8

 

[Keiw]

The trinity is one being.


Jesus is the one doing all of the judging. The Father judges no one at all.

Jesus is saying he will come in the glory of his Father, and he is saying “I will repay each one
according to his behaviour”.

Since Jesus is the one who repays each one according to his work, who is speaking here? According
to what we just read in John and Matthew; it is Jesus.

So, it is definitely Jesus speaking when saying “I am coming quickly”

Jesus has just said that he is the Alpha and Omega, since he is the one speaking.

Jesus is literally claiming to be God. Only God can be Alpha and Omega. Also see Isaiah 44:6, and Revelation 1:8

At Rev 21:1-all is back to perfection. This occurs=1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus hands back the kingdom to his God and Father and subjects himself)))= forever. thus Rev 21:6-7is talking about Jehovah= Jesus' God and Father. --Only the mislead believe God has a God.

 

[hies]

At Rev 21:1-all is back to perfection. This occurs=1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus hands back the kingdom to his God and Father and subjects himself)))= forever. thus Rev 21:6-7is talking about Jehovah= Jesus' God and Father. --Only the mislead believe God has a God.

Nope. Because the Father judges no one at all (John 5:22-23). Therefore in Revelation 22:12-13, Jesus is claiming to be the Alpha and the Omega. This title is specifically for Jehovah alone (even JW.org admits this fact). Nothing created can be the Alpha and the Omega. Because if you understand what Alpha and Omega means, it is the beginning of all things (therefore, nothing existed before), and is the end of all things (therefore, nothing can exist after). To exist before all things and to exist after all things means uncreated and eternal. So the title Alpha and Omega cannot be gained or given, as it is exclusive to Jehovah-God. Which means Jesus just claimed to be Jehovah, since he is the one speaking in Revelation 22:12-13 (it must be Jesus speaking because the Father judges no one at all).

 

[Keiw]

Nope. Because the Father judges no one at all (John 5:22-23). Therefore in Revelation 22:12-13, Jesus is claiming to be the Alpha and the Omega. This title is specifically for Jehovah alone (even JW.org admits this fact). Nothing created can be the Alpha and the Omega. Because if you understand what Alpha and Omega means, it is the beginning of all things (therefore, nothing existed before), and is the end of all things (therefore, nothing can exist after). To exist before all things and to exist after all things means uncreated and eternal. So the title Alpha and Omega cannot be gained or given, as it is exclusive to Jehovah-God. Which means Jesus just claimed to be Jehovah, since he is the one speaking in Revelation 22:12-13 (it must be Jesus speaking because the Father judges no one at all).

God has already judged in his written word. Jesus being Gods image will use those judgements against all. Jesus never claimed to be the alpha and omega-twisting it says its him.

 

[hies]

God has already judged in his written word. Jesus being Gods image will use those judgements against all. Jesus never claimed to be the alpha and omega-twisting it says its him.

The Father judges no one at all.
Revelation 22:20 says "Amen! Come, Lord Jesus" after he said "I am coming quickly", so yes it's definitely 100% Jesus speaking in Revelation 22:12-13 when he says he's coming quickly to judge each according to what they have done and claims to be the Alpha and the Omega.

You have to disagree with the fact "the Father judges no one at all" to make your case. But there's no getting your way out of this one. You're far too proud to admit you've believed a lie for this long though.

Also the only reason you think he's the archangel Michael is because 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says he will come with the voice of an archangel. But it also says he will come down with a trumpet too. But neither is he an archangel, or a trumpet.

 

[Keiw]

The Father judges no one at all.
Revelation 22:20 says "Amen! Come, Lord Jesus" after he said "I am coming quickly", so yes it's definitely 100% Jesus speaking in Revelation 22:12-13 when he says he's coming quickly to judge each according to what they have done and claims to be the Alpha and the Omega.

You have to disagree with the fact "the Father judges no one at all" to make your case. But there's no getting your way out of this one. You're far too proud to admit you've believed a lie for this long though.

Also the only reason you think he's the archangel Michael is because 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says he will come with the voice of an archangel. But it also says he will come down with a trumpet too. But neither is he an archangel, or a trumpet.

Fact= The only one who has the archangels voice is Michael=Jesus. The Father inspired EVERY judgement in the bible. He was ALWAYS judge. He appointed Jesus to do the judging,( John 5:26-27) and he being Gods image will use what God has passed as judgements already. Jesus can do-0 of his own( John 5:30)----John 12:49-The Father commands Jesus.

 

[hies]

Fact= The only one who has the archangels voice is Michael=Jesus. The Father inspired EVERY judgement in the bible. He was ALWAYS judge. He appointed Jesus to do the judging,( John 5:26-27) and he being Gods image will use what God has passed as judgements already. Jesus can do-0 of his own( John 5:30)----John 12:49-The Father commands Jesus.

Right so Jesus is the one coming in the glory of his Father = he is the Alpha and the Omega. Glad we can agree.

Also so what if Michael is the only one with an archangel's voice? That makes him an archangel = not Jesus.

 

[Keiw]

Right so Jesus is the one coming in the glory of his Father = he is the Alpha and the Omega. Glad we can agree.

Also so what if Michael is the only one with an archangel's voice? That makes him an archangel = not Jesus.

Jesus comes with the archangels voice because its his voice. Other proof= Rev 6:2= the war in heaven, Michael took that ride, but he receives his crown( birth of Gods kingdom) only Jesus is appointed king and will get that crown. Rev 12 explains the war in heaven and the birth of Gods kingdom. And Daniel 12:1--It is Michael who stands up for Gods chosen in the last days= as Gods appointed king.