Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

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I sure do and it wasnt really that long ago. When I was young to meet a girl youhad to have an introduction by someone who knows her. That's very old school at this point, lol.

When I heard them starting to use the term toxic masculinity, I didnt believe it. I still dont. There are toxic people, but not based on his masculinity. If toxic masculinity is a real thing then so is toxic femininity. So we're back at toxic people again.

I mean what part of a man's masculinity is considered toxic? Is it that he sets boundries for his girl? Is it the hey honey go make me a sandwich? That's....laughable.
That's a good question I might look into...the people who use the term toxic masculinity---how is that defined?

I heard a phrase called "mansplaining" about men who explain things to women as if they are incapable of understanding because they're women.

I dislike this term. Men enjoy explaining things to women by nature---I do agree. But I don't think its done out of bad intentions or even dishonor.

It was Adam's responsibility to explain things to Eve and show her things. She got the part about the tree of knowledge of good and evil partly right and partly wrong. I do think men enjoy leadership and part of that is explaining in a useful way. I see "mansplaining" as just another way men and women can learn resentment for each other's differences rather than understanding or appreciation.
 

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That's a good question I might look into...the people who use the term toxic masculinity---how is that defined?

I heard a phrase called "mansplaining" about men who explain things to women as if they are incapable of understanding because they're women.

I dislike this term. Men enjoy explaining things to women by nature---I do agree. But I don't think its done out of bad intentions or even dishonor.

It was Adam's responsibility to explain things to Eve and show her things. She got the part about the tree of knowledge of good and evil partly right and partly wrong. I do think men enjoy leadership and part of that is explaining in a useful way. I see "mansplaining" as just another way men and women can learn resentment for each other's differences rather than understanding or appreciation.

I never have got a definition of toxic masculinity from a female. Let us know how it turns out!

I dunno about mansplaining. They way they use the term I think it simply when a man is being condescending to her? It's not usually done maliciously but more of in jest I think.

I can remember explaining things to my wife, something I knew all about so was giving her facts. And sometimes she just wouldnt get it I guess and she'd interupt me and begin explaining very politely where I am wrong and this is the way it is...except that I wasnt wrong. She just didnt want to accept it or something? I used to get to get tired of that stuff so sometimes I would give her a bit of condescension because...she has to be joking or playing stupid or something? SO when I did it it was more out of exasperation than being mean.
 
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I dunno about mansplaining. They way they use the term I think it simply when a man is being condescending to her? It's not usually done maliciously but more of in jest I think.
Did you just mansplain mansplaining? lol

Ive heard it used as a joke but the first time I heard it was a female Youtuber labeling her brother ...so yeah maybe that might have been a joke too. But on places like Reddit, its being taken too far. It's an internet space so woke at times, you can complain about a business having a racist dog and be taken seriously.
 
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Did you just mansplain mansplaining? lol

Ive heard it used as a joke but the first time I heard it was a female Youtuber labeling her brother ...so yeah maybe that might have been a joke too. But on places like Reddit, its being taken too far. It's an internet space so woke at times, you can complain about a business having a racist dog and be taken seriously.

A racist dog? See that's why I dont go to reddit. I dont tiktok or anything like that. That stuffs for the kids. I'd delete my facebook if it wasnt the best way to hear about how my kids are doing when they dont call, lol.

I used to have a dog that didnt like any men in uniform! The more official it looked, the worse he wanted to get them! Not sure where he picked that up but in a strange and secret way I knid of liked that, lol. No uniforms in the house!
 
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I've been thinking about the human interactions between men and women in a relationship and I have come up with a theory that feels right but would women agree with me?

The theory goes like this. Boy/Girl, Man/Woman, it goes all the way back to the first time they met. Everything they say or do in interaction with the other...either builds up the relationship or tears it down. Everything. Body language, words, tones, actions, it all affects the other either in a positive way or a negative way.

When you meet for the first time, there is a question in the air. Am I right? Then everything you do, how you carry yourself, what you say, whatever, it either draws you to them or repels you. That's true on both sides of the equation.

I'll stop there to see if there is any agreement from the girls or do I have any holes in my theory, and if so, what?
 

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I've been thinking about the human interactions between men and women in a relationship and I have come up with a theory that feels right but would women agree with me?

The theory goes like this. Boy/Girl, Man/Woman, it goes all the way back to the first time they met. Everything they say or do in interaction with the other...either builds up the relationship or tears it down. Everything. Body language, words, tones, actions, it all affects the other either in a positive way or a negative way.

When you meet for the first time, there is a question in the air. Am I right? Then everything you do, how you carry yourself, what you say, whatever, it either draws you to them or repels you. That's true on both sides of the equation.

I'll stop there to see if there is any agreement from the girls or do I have any holes in my theory, and if so, what?

I actually agree. There are two people I care about. When they met for the first time, the chemistry and potential was just instantly there. They are not a couple but it seems they will be in time.
 
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I actually agree. There are two people I care about. When they met for the first time, the chemistry and potential was just instantly there. They are not a couple but it seems they will be in time.

It makes too much sense not to be true. So applying it to the context of feminism what do we see? It has been said that I dont want to be controlled by a man That it is oppressive or something. So if a wife would come to her husband and say I dont want to be controlled anymore, or cook & clean for you...how is the man going to take that?

Is she building something up or tearing something down? It seems obvious. The man will think oh so she wants control. And is it not true?! So it would be destructive. Feminism is destructive. We're taught as followers of Christ to treat people like we want them to treat us. To walk in love. That sure aint feminism. But if she wants to be a Liberated Lady then I'll help her pack!

Uh-oh, I've stirred up a memory. A song. How's it go? Oh yeah!

 
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While the world gets more evil and crazy as Jesus predicted, I have a way to fight back.

I will build my home and make it a sanctuary of love, peace, and righteousness.

I will minister to my husband, children, and our loved ones that God gave us to minister to.

Day by day, through discipline and dilligence, Ill redeem the time and live for eternity.

Marching in the streets against the evil is not what God calls married women to do in His Word. He calls us who are wives to our families, homes, and immediate neighbors.

While politics wax uncertain, my focus will be on the things within my control and trusting in the Lord. Those things include my attitude, my influence as a wife, and the example Im living in front of my children.
 

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Is she building something up or tearing something down?
The thing about relationships is that both parties can't lead at the same time.

Women will say, "Why should it be the man?"

Scripture says we women naturally desire control over our men but that we were actually created for the man.

Feminism teaches the opposite because they see this belief as demeaning to a woman's personhood. At the same time, why does every successful movie geared toward women have romance?

We were made in relation to men and our purpose is to be the helpmate. The helpmate does not lead, she helps the man achieve the order from God to subdue the earth. But they can't both lead because that simply does not work.

The man is stronger, more competitive, more protective. It his role to lead, to lay down his life. Its our role to respect our husband's burden and calling with cooperation and obedience. This shows our reverence to the Lord and respects that Adam was first and Eve was his companion and helpmate.

Feminism does not acknowledge this order or need for submissiom, so it will always conflict with biblical Christianity.
 
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Feminism gets Christian patriarchy wrong because it obsesses over the rights of the ones in need of help and ignores the priveliges that come with being the helper. In seeking equity with men, we lost a cherished, protected, and honored status and reduced our perceived value to that of sex objects.
 
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I heard a phrase called "mansplaining" about men who explain things to women as if they are incapable of understanding because they're women.
This phrase makes me wonder how else is a man supposed to explain? And why not express contempt for every women who explains things as "womensplaining?" It's just misandry.

When I've had trouble explaining something to women, it is not because of any reason other than they are super emotionally charged about something that was done or a decision that was made independent of such emotional considerations. While I find expressing the logic easily, I realize the problem the woman has is on an emotional level. She asks why but does not truly care why. She emotionally objects to the decision or action taken.

I'll give you an example. My wife comes home with an agenda. She immediately asks why I did X. She could care less why I did X; she wants me to do Y and this is her way of beginning the "conversation."

By contrast, same wife came home to see me hooking up a new dryer. She noticed I changed the order of the washer and dryer and asked why. Before I could even answer, she correctly suspected the angle of the connections were opposite for the new dryer. The differences between the 2 examples are agenda and emotions.

Rather than give an explanation, I often ask such emotionally unbalanced women what explanation will they accept. They can't answer that and resort to name calling before ending the "conversation." I may be an a-hole but you can't accuse me of mansplainin. o_O
 

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If toxic masculinity is a real thing then so is toxic femininity.
This is a part of equality feminists reject. They promote the "bad boy, good girl" paradigm.

I learned very early the best scenario is a harmonious balance between the masculine and the feminine. There is a youtube channel called "The Happy Wife School." Because she is a woman, she gets away with saying things a man never would. An immediate outcry of misogyny would envelope. She openly uses the term "womanly ways."

Our egalitarian society scoffs at such sex based behavior but everyone knows men and women are different. Men have their ways and women have their ways. Some are good and some are not good. It really is simple once you take the battle of the sexes out of it.

As a teen, I realized when too many teen males were around, the conversation turns base.
  • Things are accomplished with unnecessary harshness. Men focus on results.
When too many teen females were around, "cattiness" evolved, clicks and hypersensitive drama queens took center stage.
  • Things did NOT get accomplished (in any kind of reasonable time frame) as the dynamic became awash in emotion, perceived slights and never ending attempts to accomodate the drama. Women focus on process.
The classic joke I tell to illustrate this is to ask a man and a woman how their date was last night. The woman will go into excutiating details about what they wore, how romantic it was that he brought flowers for her and her mother, the limo, etc. She can go on for 1/2 an hour before getting to desert. All process. No results.

Ask the guy the same question and you'll be lucky to get 3 words, "I got lucky." Only result. No process.
 
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Horrible fight at Olympics between a women boxer and trans. The author of Harry Potter wondered where are all the feminists? Why aren't they objecting?!
 
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This is a part of equality feminists reject. They promote the "bad boy, good girl" paradigm.

I learned very early the best scenario is a harmonious balance between the masculine and the feminine. There is a youtube channel called "The Happy Wife School." Because she is a woman, she gets away with saying things a man never would. An immediate outcry of misogyny would envelope. She openly uses the term "womanly ways."

Our egalitarian society scoffs at such sex based behavior but everyone knows men and women are different. Men have their ways and women have their ways. Some are good and some are not good. It really is simple once you take the battle of the sexes out of it.

As a teen, I realized when too many teen males were around, the conversation turns base.
  • Things are accomplished with unnecessary harshness. Men focus on results.
When too many teen females were around, "cattiness" evolved, clicks and hypersensitive drama queens took center stage.
  • Things did NOT get accomplished (in any kind of reasonable time frame) as the dynamic became awash in emotion, perceived slights and never ending attempts to accomodate the drama. Women focus on process.
The classic joke I tell to illustrate this is to ask a man and a woman how their date was last night. The woman will go into excutiating details about what they wore, how romantic it was that he brought flowers for her and her mother, the limo, etc. She can go on for 1/2 an hour before getting to desert. All process. No results.

Ask the guy the same question and you'll be lucky to get 3 words, "I got lucky." Only result. No process.

Lol! That's exactly how it is.

Men speak in a direct line. 2+2=4, a straight line. With women, they're all over the place in 100 different directions just like you say. And if a guy says, hey babe, focus or, have some accountability. Then it's oh here comes the toxic masculinity again...lol.

But if you think about it, at that moment that they are speaking toxic masculinity to you, they are literally demonstrating toxic femininity at that moment!

Huh-Uhhh! Your just picking on me! (no accountability).
Women...you cant live with them, cant live without them. Sigh...
 
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