Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

[hies]

I don't teach ones works will save them. Obeying will get one saved. Ones works builds a strong living faith that will stand under pressures. Faith without works is dead. And will not stand under pressures because that ones faith is worthless.
There is no pick and choose. Jesus was 100% clear--Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God=OT-NT--Those who obey Jesus learn and apply Every utterance from God, studying NEVER stops.

Your version of obedience is works.

Romans 4:5 is very clear in saying your faith is what saves you. That's how the thief on the cross was saved.

The NWT is a very poor translation because it makes verses like John 3:36 imply more than trust: Difference between believing and obeying Jesus in John 3:36

The two verbs used in John 3:36 display some important information:

πιστεύω = trust, have faith in, entrust with, believe in, etc
ἀπειθέω = disobey, rebel, disloyal, etc.
The whole point of this verse is, among other things, to trust the Son is to obey the Son, AND, not to trust the Son is to disobey the Son.

So yes to trust the Son is to obey him. If this meant you have to do good works in order to be saved, it contradicts Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5, Romans 4:5 etc.

So your version of obey adds in works because you misinterpret James 2:17. Yet you ignore James 2:23

"And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend."

What made Abraham righteous? Simply by believing God. By trusting him.

 

[hies]

I responded to a later post you had written.

Then please carefully read and respond to this post: Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

I will add this:
I want to keep his commands. But not to be saved

 

[Keiw]

Your version of obedience is works.

Romans 4:5 is very clear in saying your faith is what saves you. That's how the thief on the cross was saved.

The NWT is a very poor translation because it makes verses like John 3:36 imply more than trust: Difference between believing and obeying Jesus in John 3:36


So yes to trust the Son is to obey him. If this meant you have to do good works in order to be saved, it contradicts Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5, Romans 4:5 etc.

So your version of obey adds in works because you misinterpret James 2:17. Yet you ignore James 2:23

"And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend."

What made Abraham righteous? Simply by believing God. By trusting him.

No it is not works, it is learning and applying Every utterance from God= a blessing to do that.
Few on earth know God.

 

[Keiw]

Then please carefully read and respond to this post: Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

I will add this:
I want to keep his commands. But not to be saved

I don't need to re read it. It is error.

 

[hies]

I don't need to re read it. It is error.

Where's the error?

 

[Keiw]

Where's the error?

Jesus leads the JW religion= the only religion he is with.

 

[hies]

Jesus leads the JW religion= the only religion he is with.

Okay so where did I make an error?
You can't just say "I'm right because I'm right". It doesn't work like that. You need to provide valid reasons for your beliefs. And when a contradiction is given (which I have done) you must refute them.

 

[Keiw]

Okay so where did I make an error?
You can't just say "I'm right because I'm right". It doesn't work like that. You need to provide valid reasons for your beliefs. And when a contradiction is given (which I have done) you must refute them.

The true God of Israel=the Abrahamic God= a single being God=YHVH(Jehovah)--Served and worshipped and taught to every Israelite from Moses on up until this very day--That includes Jesus and every bible writer when they attended the Israelite places of worship.
Recorded history=Catholicism added the holy spirit for the first time ever known to a godhead in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople. Not one servant prior knew God as being a trinity, because he is not a trinity.

 

[hies]

The true God of Israel=the Abrahamic God= a single being God=YHVH(Jehovah)--Served and worshipped and taught to every Israelite from Moses on up until this very day--That includes Jesus and every bible writer when they attended the Israelite places of worship.
Recorded history=Catholicism added the holy spirit for the first time ever known to a godhead in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople. Not one servant prior knew God as being a trinity, because he is not a trinity.

Yeah you didn't respond to anything I said. Just started going off about the trinity again. Oh well.

 

[Keiw]

Yeah you didn't respond to anything I said. Just started going off about the trinity again. Oh well.

You best relook. My words are facts of reality.

 

[hies]

You best relook. My words are facts of reality.

Alright Keiw, alright.

 

[PS95]

You best relook. My words are facts of reality.

We love you, Keiw!

 

[Keiw]

We love you, Keiw!

You won't at the end.( Rev 16)= 99% on earth. Will hate the JW,s.

 

[hies]

You won't at the end.( Rev 16)= 99% on earth. Will hate the JW,s.

But I thought Armageddon was coming in 1925 according to JWs? Oh wait no it was actually 1941... Actually it was 1975... Oh it still didn't come when they said.

Beware of false prophets.

 

[PS95]

You won't at the end.( Rev 16)= 99% on earth. Will hate the JW,s.

You may need to explain that one to me, Keiw. I know SDA's think we are going to make them go to church on Sunday. Everyone has a paranoia.

 

[PS95]

But I thought Armageddon was coming in 1925 according to JWs? Oh wait no it was actually 1941... Actually it was 1975... Oh it still didn't come when they said.

Beware of false prophets.

you forgot 1874 & 1914

 

[rebuilder 454]

Are you not a trinitarian? Are you not aware of what evil goes on in trinitarian churches?

Is it trinitarian churches who kill their enemies (and their friends), or is it the JWs?

Was it the JWs who launched Crusades which killed Jews, Muslims and Christians? Or was it your churches?

Was it the JWs who carried out inquisitions? Or was it your churches?

Was it the JWs who supported segregation? Or was it your churches?

Hasn’t their been rape and child abuse found in your churches? Haven’t there been attempts to cover it up?

Have any of your churches supported abortion? Have the JWs?

If you’re going to take the tact, apply it across the board.

Yours, by the standard of measure you use, is an evil religion.

So I wonder, will you be doing your side next?

Meanwhile, as you courageously point your finger, Your organization leads millions to hell.
SMH

 

[rebuilder 454]

Jesus leads the JW religion= the only religion he is with.

Lol.
Watchtower denies Jesus.
All of them are hell bound.

What blind parrots.
The irony is strong.

 

[rebuilder 454]

You won't at the end.( Rev 16)= 99% on earth. Will hate the JW,s.

Jehovah testifies of His Son.
Watchtower sells magazines.
Two completely different dynamics

Not a single one of these watchtower followers understand salvation.

Clue....the remedy of separation between man and God is innocent blood.

 

[rebuilder 454]

There is NO OTHER REMEDY.