Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

[hies]

Not a mortal alive can prove--Abstain from blood doesn't include transfusions. They only evidence in the bible is that God rejects one putting blood into their bodies by the eating of it. So one must ask Why would God want one putting blood into their bodies by transfusing it?

You didn't read what I said. Here's what I asked about abstaining:

If abstaining from blood does not allow taking a "major" fraction, why does it allow a fraction of a fraction? If blood fractions were always acceptable to Jehovah, who is responsible for the Witnesses that needlessly died refusing them, due to Watchtower policy forbidding them prior to the year 2000?

 

[Keiw]

You didn't read what I said. Here's what I asked about abstaining:

If abstaining from blood does not allow taking a "major" fraction, why does it allow a fraction of a fraction? If blood fractions were always acceptable to Jehovah, who is responsible for the Witnesses that needlessly died refusing them, due to Watchtower policy forbidding them prior to the year 2000?

They do give one that choice. I personally would never take a fraction. This isn't the real life, those who died standing up for Gods will, will gain everlasting life in Gods kingdom. Those are still alive in Gods view.

 

[hies]

They do give one that choice. I personally would never take a fraction. This isn't the real life, those who died standing up for Gods will, will gain everlasting life in Gods kingdom. Those are still alive in Gods view.

The point is why is it allowed if it comes from blood? People had to donate blood and that blood had to be stored in order to make the fractions, but that isn't allowed by the Watchtower. And significantly more blood is needed to make the fractions than just a regular transfusion (9-10x the amount).

And if blood fractions were always acceptable to Jehovah, who is responsible for the Witnesses that needlessly died refusing them, due to Watchtower policy forbidding them prior to the year 2000?

This just exposes the inconsistency and hypocrisy of the Watchtower. Please carefully read through my original post. I spent a lot of time researching all of this.

 

[Keiw]

The point is why is it allowed if it comes from blood? People had to donate blood and that blood had to be stored in order to make the fractions, but that isn't allowed by the Watchtower. And significantly more blood is needed to make the fractions than just a regular transfusion (9-10x the amount).

And if blood fractions were always acceptable to Jehovah, who is responsible for the Witnesses that needlessly died refusing them, due to Watchtower policy forbidding them prior to the year 2000?

This just exposes the inconsistency and hypocrisy of the Watchtower. Please carefully read through my original post. I spent a lot of time researching all of this.

God does things that no mortal knows why, but God knows why. And God does not have to answer to anyone. And since Gods word says that one must listen to the teachers who Jesus appointed the same as its listening to Jesus and God=Luke 10:16)--No domestic EVER knows a truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do.
It is kind of like when Moses took the Istraelites out of Egypt, all of a sudden to those their backs were against the red sea and the Egyptian armies coming to slaughter them is what it looked like to them, with no way out of it, but God knew his plan, they did not. Thus mortals do not always know why God does things in certain ways.

 

[hies]

God does things that no mortal knows why, but God knows why. And God does not have to answer to anyone. And since Gods word says that one must listen to the teachers who Jesus appointed the same as its listening to Jesus and God=Luke 10:16)--No domestic EVER knows a truth before Jesus' appointed teachers do.
It is kind of like when Moses took the Istraelites out of Egypt, all of a sudden to those their backs were against the red sea and the Egyptian armies coming to slaughter them is what it looked like to them, with no way out of it, but God knew his plan, they did not. Thus mortals do not always know why God does things in certain ways.

What is the evidence that the Watchtower is God's appointed?
Why do they continually change their minds on very important issues if they're appointed by God to teach?
Did the faithful prophets of old ever falsely teach and falsely prophesy, or change their minds on what God had supposedly said?
If they were wrong in the past, why are they right today?

It's not like they've changed their mind once or twice on some unimportant issues. No, they've changed their minds many times, on very controversial issues. Once organ transplants were considered cannabalism, now they're acceptable. Once vaccinations were an abomination, and a "devilish practice", but now they're okay (because they couldn't afford the legal costs, remember?). Once even blood transfusions were allowed, and they even said "all reasonable minds must conclude it wasn't the eating of blood God objected to", but now they're forbidden. Once blood fractions weren't allowed, and some JWs refused them to the point of death, but now they're supposedly allowed by Jehovah, so those people died because of the Watchtower's mistake.

This level of inconsistency and hypocrisy is not from God, but from men trying to play God. But don't get distracted with what I'm saying, please answer my questions.

 

[Jack]

What is the evidence that the Watchtower is God's appointed?

Ain't none. They TWIST Scripture like Satan.

 

[PS95]

They could have remained standing. A beard is no big deal. JW,s were allowed to smoke until 1970 or so--given 6 months to stop or be disfellowshipped. Here is why=Prior to the murderers called cigarette corporations who then added poisons that kill to the tobacco so it became much more addicting by rushing the nicotine to ones brain quicker, it was ok to smoke, but God warned his prior to them doing that as a protection.
Christmas was celebrated for many years as well Worship was given to Jesus for years as well. But at the proper time= when God wills truth known it becomes known via holy spirit through his governing body. Then correction is made. Same with beards. It does root the fakes out. God knows exactly what he is doing and why.

You're right a beard is no big deal. SO WHY DID THEY MAKE IT ONE? ---------------Please don't blame that on Jehovah.
I am aware that Jws worshiped Jesus as it was even in their WT Charter until it was finally removed in 1999. they actually stopped aroound 1945. So, when Jesus supposedly chose them in 1919 they worshiped Him. And it sure took "him" many decades to tell them to stop that, huh?

 

[Marymog]

Not long like in the fake pictures of Jesus being shown bringing dishonor to his Fathers name by those in darkness.

Thanks Keiw,

So you really don't know what "long" is? YOU just KNOW that what is portrayed in the art too long. You have nothing to back up your theory.

Thanks for your time.

Mary

 

[RedFan]

Not a mortal alive can prove--Abstain from blood doesn't include transfusions. They only evidence in the bible is that God rejects one putting blood into their bodies by the eating of it. So one must ask Why would God want one putting blood into their bodies by transfusing it?

I don't have my NWT handy, but tell me if it says this in Mark 14:

23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
24a And Lo, the apostles to a man protested, Lord, thou hath poisoned our souls, for God hath commanded against drinking blood!

 

[hies]

I don't have my NWT handy, but tell me if it says this in Mark 14:

23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
24a And Lo, the apostles to a man protested, Lord, thou hath poisoned our souls, for God hath commanded against drinking blood!

It's not literally his blood, and the bread isn't literally his body. It's just a metaphor for what he did for us and we do it in remembrance.

 

[RedFan]

It's not literally his blood, and the bread isn't literally his body. It's just a metaphor for what he did for us and we do it in remembrance.

The early Church didn't see it as a metaphor. The early Church took John 6:55 at face value. I guess you don't. So be it.

 

[Keiw]

What is the evidence that the Watchtower is God's appointed?
Why do they continually change their minds on very important issues if they're appointed by God to teach?
Did the faithful prophets of old ever falsely teach and falsely prophesy, or change their minds on what God had supposedly said?
If they were wrong in the past, why are they right today?

It's not like they've changed their mind once or twice on some unimportant issues. No, they've changed their minds many times, on very controversial issues. Once organ transplants were considered cannabalism, now they're acceptable. Once vaccinations were an abomination, and a "devilish practice", but now they're okay (because they couldn't afford the legal costs, remember?). Once even blood transfusions were allowed, and they even said "all reasonable minds must conclude it wasn't the eating of blood God objected to", but now they're forbidden. Once blood fractions weren't allowed, and some JWs refused them to the point of death, but now they're supposedly allowed by Jehovah, so those people died because of the Watchtower's mistake.

This level of inconsistency and hypocrisy is not from God, but from men trying to play God. But don't get distracted with what I'm saying, please answer my questions.

Matt 24:45= At the proper time. Actually the religions that think they have no error are the ones sadly mistaken, the only one who makes corrections to errors are the JW,s, the trinity religions just start a whole new religion and correct little. God warned all-Beware if you think you are standing strong.

 

[Keiw]

You're right a beard is no big deal. SO WHY DID THEY MAKE IT ONE? ---------------Please don't blame that on Jehovah.
I am aware that Jws worshiped Jesus as it was even in their WT Charter until it was finally removed in 1999. they actually stopped aroound 1945. So, when Jesus supposedly chose them in 1919 they worshiped Him. And it sure took "him" many decades to tell them to stop that, huh?

All men are imperfect and make mistakes. Thus correction is required.
The JW,s only had error filled trinity translations to use. It took years of study of the bible, history, old writings to find certain truths.

 

[hies]

Matt 24:45= At the proper time. Actually the religions that think they have no error are the ones sadly mistaken, the only one who makes corrections to errors are the JW,s, the trinity religions just start a whole new religion and correct little. God warned all-Beware if you think you are standing strong.

This has nothing to do with religions or errors. The Bible says what it says, and it was written down by the prophets as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. Most branches of Christianity agree on the fundamental truths. The separation occurs only with smaller issues that aren't even that important. And the reason a new branch appears is to fix any issues with the older branch it came from. So please don't say Christianity doesn't make any corrections. Protestants are a perfect example of corrections being made to the Church.

But why is the Watchtower God's appointed?

You didn't answer this question or any of the others.

 

[Keiw]

I don't have my NWT handy, but tell me if it says this in Mark 14:

23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
24a And Lo, the apostles to a man protested, Lord, thou hath poisoned our souls, for God hath commanded against drinking blood!

That was wine, not literal blood. So stay real.

 

[Keiw]

This has nothing to do with religions or errors. The Bible says what it says, and it was written down by the prophets as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. Most branches of Christianity agree on the fundamental truths. The separation occurs only with smaller issues that aren't even that important. And the reason a new branch appears is to fix any issues with the older branch it came from. So please don't say Christianity doesn't make any corrections. Protestants are a perfect example of corrections being made to the Church.

But why is the Watchtower God's appointed?

You didn't answer this question or any of the others.

Not important to who= the darkness. Jesus Father only accepts worship in spirit and TRUTH. John 4:22-24
The watchtower is a magazine. The governing body( Matt 24:45) are the ones appointed.

 

[RedFan]

All men are imperfect and make mistakes.

Care to list any JW mistakes?

 

[hies]

Not important to who= the darkness. Jesus Father only accepts worship in spirit and TRUTH. John 4:22-24
The watchtower is a magazine. The governing body( Matt 24:45) are the ones appointed.

You say the GB are appointed, yet they are in charge of the Watchtower magazine. They have made many, very serious errors. If you say the only reason they are true is because they fix their errors, then might I remind you of the protestant churches. The reason we have so many different denominations is precisely because of people trying to correct errors.

So what makes your denomination true when it has been wrong many times in the past on very important issues (by their own admission), and disagrees with the vast majority of other denominations on fundamental truths?

 

[PS95]

All men are imperfect and make mistakes. Thus correction is required.
The JW,s only had error filled trinity translations to use. It took years of study of the bible, history, old writings to find certain truths.

You know Keiw that is a total cop-out. You always have someone to blame except the ones responsible!!
The trinity has zero to do woth beards, but it is certainly your default diversion. Did that trinity bible make your leaders teach beards were a sin? LOL What it shows is a total lack of love by laying TOTALLY unbiblical legalistic rules on members and then tossing them to the curb and shunning them because THEY OBEYED GOD NOT MAN. But go ahead and keep making excuses for these men who would have DF'd the Lord Jesus with his beard!! Do you think He would have shaved it off for your GB or called those men a brood of vipers?!
Think ABOUT IT.

 

[Jack]

Matt 24:45= At the proper time. Actually the religions that think they have no error are the ones sadly mistaken, the only one who makes corrections to errors are the JW,s, the trinity religions just start a whole new religion and correct little. God warned all-Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Why do you avoid quoting Scripture?