Q for JW- KIEW?

[ElieG12]

I will believe my teachers 24/7 365 over one who stands in opposition. Every religion claiming to be christian= hundreds of them with hundreds of different truths claim to have holy spirit guidance= bull. God has 1 truth=1 religion has it out of the hundreds.

Well said, brother.

If they are teachers and want to invite to any banquet of them, let them first teach those who are sitting at that table how to behave... Christ should not be the host when those who sit there don't even know how to behave. How are they going to invite someone to eat with such people?

And how do they want to make people believe that the host of that table is Christ? They are in the wrong house. They are eating from a very different table.

We witnesses already have a table from which we eat, and the diners are educated and disciplined people. Do they think we're going to change our table, our host, for theirs?

Is. 65:13 Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Look! My own servants will eat, but YOU yourselves will go hungry. Look! My own servants will drink, but YOU yourselves will go thirsty. Look! My own servants will rejoice, but YOU yourselves will suffer shame. 14 Look! My own servants will cry out joyfully because of the good condition of the heart, but YOU yourselves will make outcries because of the pain of heart and YOU will howl because of sheer breakdown of spirit. 15 And YOU men will certainly lay up YOUR name for an oath by my chosen ones, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will actually put [YOU] individually to death, but his own servants he will call by another name; 16 so that anyone blessing himself in the earth will bless himself by the God of faith, and anyone making a sworn statement in the earth will swear by the God of faith; because the former distresses will actually be forgotten and because they will actually be concealed from my eyes.

Come on. Do they think we don't know how to differentiate the good from the useless?

 

[PS95]

Well said, brother.

If they are teachers and want to invite to any banquet of them, let them first teach those who are sitting at that table how to behave... Christ should not be the host when those who sit there don't even know how to behave. How are they going to invite someone to eat with such people?

And how do they want to make people believe that the host of that table is Christ? They are in the wrong house. They are eating from a very different table.

We witnesses already have a table from which we eat, and the diners are educated and disciplined people. Do they think we're going to change our table, our host, for theirs?

Is. 65:13 Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Look! My own servants will eat, but YOU yourselves will go hungry. Look! My own servants will drink, but YOU yourselves will go thirsty. Look! My own servants will rejoice, but YOU yourselves will suffer shame. 14 Look! My own servants will cry out joyfully because of the good condition of the heart, but YOU yourselves will make outcries because of the pain of heart and YOU will howl because of sheer breakdown of spirit. 15 And YOU men will certainly lay up YOUR name for an oath by my chosen ones, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will actually put [YOU] individually to death, but his own servants he will call by another name; 16 so that anyone blessing himself in the earth will bless himself by the God of faith, and anyone making a sworn statement in the earth will swear by the God of faith; because the former distresses will actually be forgotten and because they will actually be concealed from my eyes.

Come on. Do they think we don't know how to differentiate the good from the useless?

Ok! AND That is your reply to " ask me a bible question"? Your debu to this thread? LOL
Read thru this thread at how many times Keiw accused me of being satan because I asked to read Romans 6:1-10 together. I dont let it bother me. My Lord Jesus dealt with the same.
Hilarious Elie. . Uneven Scales of a Jw is the norm.

 

[Jack]

Ok! AND That is your reply to " ask me a bible question"? Your debu to this thread? LOL
Read thru this thread at how many times Keiw accused me of being satan because I asked to read Romans 6:1-10 together. I dont let it bother me. My Lord Jesus dealt with the same.
Hilarious Elie. . Uneven Scales of a Jw is the norm.

JW's also accuse Jesus of Satanic doctrine too!

 

[PS95]

JW's also accuse Jesus of Satanic doctrine too!

Well, yeah and HE HAD A BEARD! Maybe that's why He is usually shunned.

 

[Brakelite]

Jesus is not God, he is Gods son.

Interesting answer. I do notice though you still haven't actually addressed the texts I gave. I agree though that Jesus is God's Son.
I am a man. I have 3 sons. Guess what. They are also men. What do you suppose the Son of God would be other than what His Father is? What do you think express image means?
But anyway. What about those texts?
Just a reminder...

Wasn't me. It was Isaiah., Matthew, and Mark. Did you look up those verses? And I didn't say Jesus is Father Jehovah, I said the Son shares His Father's name, and is therefore God.

KJV Isaiah 40:3
3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Speaking of John the Baptist, Matthew said...
KJV Matthew 3:3
3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

And Mark agreed, in fact, Mark's gospel was written first I believe...
KJV Mark 1:1-3
1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
2 As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

No-one has ever declared themselves unworthy to tie the shoe laces of an angel. But the Son of God?

KJV Hebrews 1:1-3, 8
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

KJV Hebrews 1:4
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

 

[Keiw]

Ok Keiw. You believe your GB.
I will believe Jesus and Paul.
You were invited to the banquet. Luke 14
It's not too late to change your mind.
Come it's free.

You don't believe Jesus and Paul--John 17:3--The one who sent Jesus= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD= Jesus' words in every translation on earth.
Paul's words=1Cor 8:5-6-- He warns ALL other gods are false then names only the Father as God.= every translation on earth.

See you do not believe them.

 

[Keiw]

Interesting answer. I do notice though you still haven't actually addressed the texts I gave. I agree though that Jesus is God's Son.
I am a man. I have 3 sons. Guess what. They are also men. What do you suppose the Son of God would be other than what His Father is? What do you think express image means?
But anyway. What about those texts?
Just a reminder...

Yes your sons were created by you. Its the same with Jesus, God created him direct, first and last= the firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--all creation occurred at the beginning, then God rested. Blind guides say its when Jesus was born on earth as a man, all creation occurred at the beginning.

 

[PS95]

You don't believe Jesus and Paul--John 17:3--The one who sent Jesus= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD= Jesus' words in every translation on earth.
Paul's words=1Cor 8:5-6-- He warns ALL other gods are false then names only the Father as God.= every translation on earth.

See you do not believe them.

Sure I do! and John 1 John 5:20 saying same thing John just understood how to make us understand. Not jws tho for some reason.

guess it's always the same verse over and over and over and over. 1 Cor 8 = one god one lord? I certainly don't disagree!! You do. It is not saying God is not also Lord there but are you???!!!! He says "FOR US" I refer to God as Father and my lord as Son. SO? It's easier. that doesnt mean i can't call on Father as Lord.. Jesus did! Listen to Jesus.
You apply unever scales to Father & son? Jehovahs doesnt! Jesus was a servant on earth- He BECAME a servant.
we have no other gods- they are false gods- the many gods are false gods!! Paul is NOT saying Jesus is a FALSE GOD! lol seriously?
IDK why you dont see that!

 

[PS95]

Yes your sons were created by you. Its the same with Jesus, God created him direct, first and last= the firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15)--all creation occurred at the beginning, then God rested. Blind guides say its when Jesus was born on earth as a man, all creation occurred at the beginning.

Keiw, we don't create. only God does. We have sex and give birth..

 

[marks]

Keiw, we don't create. only God does. We have sex and give birth..

Humanity was created by God in a single creative act, forming Adam from the ground, and breathing into him life. Scripture treats humanity as a single unit, as it were.

The clearest example of this is that Levi paid tithes to Melchizedek being in the loins of Abraham, when Abraham paid tithes. We were all in the loins of Adam when he was created. So when Adam sinned, and died, all humanity likewise died, being in his loins.

Much love!

 

[Jack]

Even the JW NWT bible CLEARLY teaches that Jesus is God and Hell Fire is EVERLASTING!

 

[Keiw]

Sure I do! and John 1 John 5:20 saying same thing John just understood how to make us understand. Not jws tho for some reason.

guess it's always the same verse over and over and over and over. 1 Cor 8 = one god one lord? I certainly don't disagree!! You do. It is not saying God is not also Lord there but are you???!!!! He says "FOR US" I refer to God as Father and my lord as Son. SO? It's easier. that doesnt mean i can't call on Father as Lord.. Jesus did! Listen to Jesus.
You apply unever scales to Father & son? Jehovahs doesnt! Jesus was a servant on earth- He BECAME a servant.
we have no other gods- they are false gods- the many gods are false gods!! Paul is NOT saying Jesus is a FALSE GOD! lol seriously?
IDK why you dont see that!

Jesus isn't God at all, he is Gods son. Jesus has a God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--there is only 1 God--God does not have a God.

 

[Keiw]

Keiw, we don't create. only God does. We have sex and give birth..

Its still like creating a child.

 

[Jack]

Jesus isn't God at all, he is Gods son. Jesus has a God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--there is only 1 God--God does not have a God.

Won't the Governing Body allow you to quote the Bible?

 

[Jack]

You don't believe Jesus and Paul--John 17:3--The one who sent Jesus= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD= Jesus' words in every translation on earth.
Paul's words=1Cor 8:5-6-- He warns ALL other gods are false then names only the Father as God.= every translation on earth.

See you do not believe them.

That's a flat out LIE! Don't you even know that the Son is Jesus? God CLEARLY calls His Son "God"!

Hebrews 1:8-10 (NKJV)
8 But to the Son He says: "your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions." 10 And: "You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.

And God also COMMANDS His angels to WORSHIP His Son, Jesus!

Jesus is God!

 

[Keiw]

Won't the Governing Body allow you to quote the Bible?

Those that love God know the easy passages i post already.

 

[Keiw]

That's a flat out LIE! Don't you even know that the Son is Jesus? God CLEARLY calls His Son "God"!

Hebrews 1:8-10 (NKJV)
8 But to the Son He says: "your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions." 10 And: "You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands.

And God also COMMANDS His angels to WORSHIP His Son, Jesus!

Jesus is God!

You best recheck. Its 100% fact your translations are altered.

 

[PS95]

You best recheck. Its 100% fact your translations are altered.

Hebrews 1:10 is addressed to the Christ, the Son of God:

“And, "You, Lord, at the beginning founded the earth, and the heavens are works of Your hands.”

This is a direct quote from Psalms 102:25-27.

The problem is, Psalms 102 is addressed, without any doubt, to none other than Yahweh God Himself as is clearly shown in verses 1, 12, 15, 16, 18, 19, 21, 22, and 24.

Suddenly, in the very next verse (verse 25), “You founded the earth” means “Yahweh founded the earth”.

And the author of Hebrews uses this verse pointing to Jesus Christ. This proves, beyond any doubt, that he considers Jesus as the Yahweh God of Psalms 102

 

[PS95]

You best recheck. Its 100% fact your translations are altered.

Still dont wanna read Romans?

 

[Keiw]

Hebrews 1:10 is addressed to the Christ, the Son of God:


This is a direct quote from Psalms 102:25-27.

The problem is, Psalms 102 is addressed, without any doubt, to none other than Yahweh God Himself as is clearly shown in verses 1, 12, 15, 16, 18, 19, 21, 22, and 24.

Suddenly, in the very next verse (verse 25), “You founded the earth” means “Yahweh founded the earth”.

And the author of Hebrews uses this verse pointing to Jesus Christ. This proves, beyond any doubt, that he considers Jesus as the Yahweh God of Psalms 102

You left out Heb 1:9--Where it shows Jesus has a God and has companions=angels. And yes as Gods master worker( Jesus)-----Jehovah= the only one with the power and wisdom to create, created the things mentioned through( Col 1:16) and for his master worker= Jesus. As the bible is 100% clear on--HE created--not We created=Gen 1:27, Prov 8:27-28--Isaiah 40:26. Bible truth