Dont belong to Jesus Christ.

[PS95]

When a JW (Jehovahs witness) comes to your door many are left confused and frustrated unable to pinpoint what the problem was exactly. Here is a list of some things Jws happily lack (and believe that you can not possibly have either).
They will try to convert you to their other hope, the "earthly class". JWs will not tell you these things below up front & may even try to deny them... Know also, that they believe that Christians are antichrists. They are there to convert you to their "organization" if you want to live.
See list below- This is who knocks on your door. At the end, I will give documentation in their own words.

JW's
ARE NOT IN THE NEW COVENANT
JESUS IS NOT THEIR MEDIATOR
NOT A PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST
JESUS DID NOT DIE FOR THEIR SINS
NOT DECLARED RIGHTEOUS
DO NOT BELONG TO CHRIST
NOT BRANCHES OF THE TRUE VINE
DO NOT CRY OUT "ABBA FATHER"
NOT ANNOINTED SONS OF GOD
NOT HEIRS WITH CHRIST
NOT BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT
NOT BAPTIZED INTO JESUS' DEATH
NOT FREED FROM BEING SLAVES TO SIN
NOT SPIRITUAL CHILDREN OF GOD
NOT PARTAKERS OF HIS FLESH & BLOOD
NOT PARTAKERS OF COMMUNION
NOT UNITED WITH JESUS IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH

I think that's enough to get the idea.
I'm sure that you've concluded that sadly, that list is the same for all unbelievers.

Watchtower 2010 3/15 pp. 24-28 One Flock, One Shepherd: 13 Jesus referred to this new covenant on the night before his death when he said: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in your behalf.” (Luke 22:20; 1 Cor. 11:25) Are all Christians included in this new covenant? No. Some, like the apostles who drank of that cup that evening, are participants in the new covenant.* Jesus made another covenant with them to rule together with him in his Kingdom. (Luke 22:28-30) They will share with Jesus in his Kingdom.—Luke 22:15.

Bible Teach book 207-208 Only those in the new covenant – that is, those who have the hope of going to heaven – should partake of the bread and wine. God convicts such ones that thy have been selected to be heavenly kings.

"Jesus is the mediator only for anointed Christians....The 'great crowd'... is not in that new covenant." Watchtower 4/1/1979, page 31.

Only a limited number are born again. The great crowd does not need to be born again. Their life is earthly, not heavenly. Watchtower 4/1/1988, p. 18

"He said: 'Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God!' (John 3:3-5)...The 'other sheep' do not need any such rebirth, for their goal is life everlasting in the restored earthly Paradise as subjects of the Kingdom." Watchtower 2/15/1986, p. 14

Those who desire life in the New Order must come into a right relationship with the organization. Watchtower 11/15, /1981, pp. 16,17

I will supply further documentation upon request if needed. PM me.

As to Jesus did not die to pay for their own sins..
Jws teach that their own physical death pays for their sins. - their Jesus only died for Adam's sin.
See this thread, (ignore the diversions from the topic as that is a very common Jw tactic) Always keep them on topic. It WILL NOT BE EASY!!! Bring them back over & over. They love to divert to their pets, trinity & hell fire. Just ask them to save that topic for another time and bring them back to the topic at hand. You can see how much time that can take on this thread. Don't get disouraged. They have been misled, are totally unaware and see you as the enemy. This takes TIME and prayer.

Q for JW- KIEW?

Hi Kiew, you've stated this a couple of times now on another thread-- "Romans 6:7-Acquitted of all sin at death. The judgement God gave to all men=The wages of sin = death. Once dead have paid in full the wages of sin. Gods pure justice could not rejudge one on past sins once they died and paid...

www.christianityboard.com

 

[BlessedPeace]

Thank you for posting.

I remember a member of a different site sharing about an encounter one of their family had with a JW they had known for years.

Everytime they'd get together the JW would try to convert them.

They were Baptists. So,not a chance.
One day the dad was fed up. He asked their JW friend about their fabled 144,000 elect. And if that friend was counted in that number.

The friend lamented with a, no.

So the dad asked, what then was their (the JW friend) point?

No answer. That was the last that person broached the subject.

I still remember that because since I read their post not a single JW has knocked at our door.

 

[PS95]

Thank you for posting.

I remember a member of a different site sharing about an encounter one of their family had with a JW they had known for years.

Everytime they'd get together the JW would try to convert them.

They were Baptists. So,not a chance.
One day the dad was fed up. He asked their JW friend about their fabled 144,000 elect. And if that friend was counted in that number.

The friend lamented with a, no.

So the dad asked, what then was their (the JW friend) point?

No answer. That was the last that person broached the subject.

I still remember that because since I read their post not a single JW has knocked at our door.

Usually, they are very excited not to have " the heavenly hope". There is no desire to be with Christ.
A true believer has zero chance of becoming a Jw. They are sealed with God's Spirit.

It's the on the fence, lukewarm, "I go to church on Sundays, don't read bible much, pray now and again," who are at risk of their deceptions. Those who are heavily burdened with sins who never heard the gospel are also at risk.
Folks who tend to be self-righteous know it alls are at an extreme risk.
They use well known mind control methods and it's very real.
Many Christians think of them as just another christian denomination, but anyone who looks deeply sees it is not Christian at all. That's the point of deceit, it's deceiving!

 

[PS95]

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[PS95]

When a JW (Jehovahs witness) comes to your door many are left confused and frustrated unable to pinpoint what the problem was exactly. Here is a list of some things Jws happily lack (and believe that you can not possibly have either).
They will try to convert you to their other hope, the "earthly class". JWs will not tell you these things below up front & may even try to deny them... Know also, that they believe that Christians are antichrists. They are there to convert you to their "organization" if you want to live.
See list below- This is who knocks on your door. At the end, I will give documentation in their own words.

JW's
ARE NOT IN THE NEW COVENANT
JESUS IS NOT THEIR MEDIATOR
NOT A PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST
JESUS DID NOT DIE FOR THEIR SINS
NOT DECLARED RIGHTEOUS
DO NOT BELONG TO CHRIST
NOT BRANCHES OF THE TRUE VINE
DO NOT CRY OUT "ABBA FATHER"
NOT ANNOINTED SONS OF GOD
NOT HEIRS WITH CHRIST
NOT BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT
NOT BAPTIZED INTO JESUS' DEATH
NOT FREED FROM BEING SLAVES TO SIN
NOT SPIRITUAL CHILDREN OF GOD
NOT BAPTIZED INTO JESUS' DEATH
NOT FREED FROM BEING SLAVES TO SIN
JESUS DID NOT DIE FOR THEIR SINS
NOT SPIRITUAL CHILDREN OF GOD
NOT PARTAKERS OF HIS FLESH & BLOOD
NOT PARTAKERS OF COMMUNION
NOT UNITED WITH JESUS IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH

I think that's enough to get the idea.
I'm sure that you've concluded that sadly, that list is the same for all unbelievers.





I will supply further documentation upon request if needed. PM me.

As to Jesus did not die to pay for their own sins..
Jws teach that their own physical death pays for their sins. - their Jesus only died for Adam's sin.
See this thread, (ignore the diversions from the topic as that is a very common Jw tactic) Always keep them on topic. It WILL NOT BE EASY!!! Bring them back over & over. They love to divert to their pets, trinity & hell fire. Just ask them to save that topic for another time and bring them back to the topic at hand. You can see how much time that can take on this thread. Don't get disouraged. They have been misled, are totally unaware and see you as the enemy. This takes TIME and prayer.

Q for JW- KIEW?

Hi Kiew, you've stated this a couple of times now on another thread-- "Romans 6:7-Acquitted of all sin at death. The judgement God gave to all men=The wages of sin = death. Once dead have paid in full the wages of sin. Gods pure justice could not rejudge one on past sins once they died and paid...

www.christianityboard.com

It doesnt have to be like that JWs!!!!! You are either a believer or an unbeliever. You are being taught to have half a foot in the door... a little bit pregnant. No such thing. READ your bible. It isnt some for me and some for them. It's a LIE

 

[Keiw]

It doesnt have to be like that JWs!!!!! You are either a believer or an unbeliever. You are being taught to have half a foot in the door... a little bit pregnant. No such thing. READ your bible. It isnt some for me and some for them. It's a LIE

Not nice to mislead others in your darkness. You outright refuse to believe Jesus. Trinity religions do NOT listen to Jesus. They fail him and their flocks 100% to not enter Gods kingdom. They are a mass of confusion= a lack of holy spirit guidance.

 

[PS95]

Not nice to mislead others in your darkness. You outright refuse to believe Jesus. Trinity religions do NOT listen to Jesus. They fail him and their flocks 100% to not enter Gods kingdom. They are a mass of confusion= a lack of holy spirit guidance.

Hey Keiw, that isnt relevant to the post. I never said, nor will I ever say that you must believe in the trinity.
I will never agree with Michael's impersonal life force put into Mary's womb.
Does that mean we only have those two choices? Says who?!
My concern is about what I have posted. Let's talk about that ok?

 

[PS95]

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[David in NJ]

Not nice to mislead others in your darkness. You outright refuse to believe Jesus. Trinity religions do NOT listen to Jesus. They fail him and their flocks 100% to not enter Gods kingdom. They are a mass of confusion= a lack of holy spirit guidance.

You outright refuse to believe Jesus.

Uh, that would be you @Keiw = 100%

 

[Keiw]

Uh, that would be you @Keiw = 100%

Very sad you don't know what Jesus teaches.

 

[David in NJ]

Very sad you don't know what Jesus teaches.

Yeshua is my LORD and SAVIOR
HE has filled me with the Promise of the FATHER
the RUACH HaKODESH is my TEACHER

the SAVIOR says:

Matthew 5:37
"Make sure your statement is, ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one."

Today, right now, obey the Father and answer His Question to you @Keiw

Matt 6:33 - "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness,"

His Question: Is this the same kingdom as spoken of in Colossians 1:13 ???
"He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son"

YES or NO ???

 

[Keiw]

Yeshua is my LORD and SAVIOR
HE has filled me with the Promise of the FATHER
the RUACH HaKODESH is my TEACHER

the SAVIOR says:

Matthew 5:37
"Make sure your statement is, ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one."

Today, right now, obey the Father and answer His Question to you @Keiw

Matt 6:33 - "But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness,"

His Question: Is this the same kingdom as spoken of in Colossians 1:13 ???
"He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son"

YES or NO ???

Jesus is NEVER called LORD in Gods bible. He is called Lord.
Jesus heads Gods kingdom for 1000 years, The kingdom never ends( Dan 2:44) But Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself( 1 Cor 15:24-28) Here Rev 21 i believe. All things are back to perfection at that point, no more satan influences ever.
Matt 6:10=--Let YOUR( Father)kingdom come--The Father owns the kingdom. Jesus is Gods appointed king.

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus is NEVER called LORD in Gods bible. He is called Lord.
Jesus heads Gods kingdom for 1000 years, The kingdom never ends( Dan 2:44) But Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself( 1 Cor 15:24-28) Here Rev 21 i believe. All things are back to perfection at that point, no more satan influences ever.
Matt 6:10=--Let YOUR( Father)kingdom come--The Father owns the kingdom. Jesus is Gods appointed king.

YES or NO to the question asked of you in Post #11