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Grief! You have twisted & misrepresented so much!

We might not know who you are, but Jehovah knows you. And Jesus.

I hope you change…
Hebrews 10:30,31
Hebrews 1
How embarrassing for Watchtower puppets.
 
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God knows me and all of us, you don't.

It seems to me that you don't fear God, since you go around slandering Jehovah's Witnesses, whom he knows very well without you needing to tell him anything.

He knows you too, and he can read your heart.

Tell me: why do you consider yourself righteous and the witnesses sinners?
 

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God knows me and all of us, you don't.

It seems to me that you don't fear God, since you go around slandering Jehovah's Witnesses, whom he knows very well without you needing to tell him anything.

He knows you too, and he can read your heart.

Tell me: why do you consider yourself righteous and the witnesses sinners?
Watchtower followers deny Jesus.
They preach heresy.
Salvation via door knocking

They will not be saved, unfortunately.
 

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How so?

That's just opinion.

Jesus was the one who tells us to do so.

You are not to tell that.

Can you think on better answers, please?
Heb 1.
Jehovah declares concerning his son Jesus that : "thy Throne o God is forever and ever."
Then , in the same chapter of Hebrews 1, Jehovah declares : "let all the angels of God worship Him".

So what we have here is Jehovah himself declaring the deity of Jesus and that deity receiving worship .

the angels are commanded to worship Him. The Watchtower False religion, has Jesus as a created being, in direct Defiance of John chapter 1.
Watchtower has Jehovah himself ordering his angels ,in heresy, to worship a created being.
What sick leaders Watchtower has!!!!!

they deny Jesus.
They preach a different Jesus.
They preach a way to salvation outside of Jesus.
So they are some of the worst Heretics of any cult.
Why is any Watchtower in here?????
Smearing and testifying against Jesus,Jehovah. And His Holy Book?????
Believers that know the word, and know the heresy of Watchtower ,can easily expose them.
Others have bought the deception of Watchtower and actually want that damaging lying spirit here in the forum.
 
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How so?

That's just opinion.

Jesus was the one who tells us to do so.

You are not to tell that.

Can you think on better answers, please?
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"You are not to tell that"
Ok. You have just ascribed yourself as an expert on Watchtower doctrine.
Tell me. Sir, how one becomes a Watchtower witness.
What is the conversion doctrine and duties of the new convert. ( your salvation doctrine),?
What must they do and believe to be counted in your " kingdom" beliefs and "family" that inherits/ populates the Watchtower kingdom on future earth?
 

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Heb 1.
Jehovah declares concerning his son Jesus that : "thy Throne o God is forever and ever."
Then , in the same chapter of Hebrews 1, Jehovah declares : "let all the angels of God worship Him".

So what we have here is Jehovah himself declaring the deity of Jesus and that deity receiving worship .
I don't think so. That is a quote from here:

Psal. 45:6 God is your throne forever and ever;
The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness.
7 You loved righteousness, and you hated wickedness.
That is why God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your companions.

... and it's talking about a human king, maybe David, maybe Solomon or other. I don't think the writer said "Oh God" to a human king.
the angels are commanded to worship Him. The Watchtower False religion, has Jesus as a created being, in direct Defiance of John chapter 1.
That depends on what you think this Greek work means: προσκυνέω. Many scholars don't consider that word to mean "to worship" in the sense trinitarians think.
So they deny Jesus.
They preach a different Jesus.
Well, the Jesus of the Trinity is out of the Bible, so of course, it is a different Jesus in that sense.
They preach a way to salvation outside of Jesus.
How so?
So they are some of the worst Heretics of any cult.
That's just opinion.
Why is any Watchtower in here?????
I don't understand what you mean. Can you clarify it for the readers, please?
Smearing and testifying against Jesus,Jehovah. And His Holy Book?????
That's just emotionalism.
Believers that know the word, and know the heresy of Watchtower ,can easily expose them.
We are lovers, not haters. You seem to be talking about haters.
Others have bought the deception of Watchtower and actually want that damaging lying spirit here in the forum.
We don't sell anything. Not everyone can be a Jehovah's Witness, even if they wanted to.

Can you be more specific about what Biblical issues you don't like about us, please?
If I don't answer you today, maybe it'll be another day. Thank you for you time.
 
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Tell me. Sir, how one becomes a Watchtower witness.
What is the conversion doctrine and duties of the new convert. ( your salvation doctrine),?
What must they do and believe to be counted in your " kingdom" beliefs and "family" that inherits/ populates the Watchtower kingdom on future earth?
Maybe you are thinking on these Biblical passages:

Matt. 28:19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

Acts 1:8 But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the most distant part of the earth.

Rom. 10:14 However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”

All Christians in the first century did it like that:

Acts 20:20 while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from house to house.
 

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Acts 4:12.....
“Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”
No other name?

Acts 2:19-21....ESV...speaking of the day of judgment to come, Peter quoted the prophet Joel....
“And I will show wonders in the heavens aboveand signs on the earth below,blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned to darknessand the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day. And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.’”

Whose name are we to be calling on here for salvation?

According to the Jewish Tanakh.....that passage in Joel says.....
The sun shall turn to darkness, and the moon to blood, prior to the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.דהַשֶּׁ֙מֶשׁ֙ יֵהָפֵ֣ךְ לְחֹ֔שֶׁךְ וְהַיָּרֵ֖חַ לְדָ֑ם לִפְנֵ֗י בּוֹא י֣וֹם יְהֹוָ֔ה הַגָּד֖וֹל וְהַנּוֹרָֽא:
And it shall come to pass that whoever shall call in the name of the Lord shall be delivered, for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be a deliverance, as the Lord said, and among the survivors whom the Lord invites.הוְהָיָ֗ה כֹּ֧ל אֲשֶׁר־יִקְרָ֛א בְּשֵׁ֥ם יְהֹוָ֖ה יִמָּלֵ֑ט כִּ֠י בְּהַר־צִיּ֨וֹן וּבִירֽוּשָׁלִַ֜ם תִּֽהְיֶ֣ה פְלֵיטָ֗ה כַּֽאֲשֶׁר֙ אָמַ֣ר יְהֹוָ֔ה וּבַ֨שְּׂרִידִ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר יְהֹוָ֖ה קֹרֵֽא:

So, calling on the name of Yahweh/Jehovah is also necessary, because he is the one who “sent” the savior. (John 17:3) In the name of the redeemer we are saved, but also in the name of the one who sent him. Yahweh is the God of Jesus. (John 20:17; Rev 3:12)
The obvious hatred and contempt those in Christendom have for the name of Jesus’ God is disheartening.

Read in devotional reading today Rev 3.
 

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God knows me and all of us, you don't.

It seems to me that you don't fear God, since you go around slandering Jehovah's Witnesses, whom he knows very well without you needing to tell him anything.

He knows you too, and he can read your heart.

Tell me: why do you consider yourself righteous and the witnesses sinners?
Elie, Here ya go. Slander = False.

Now you show me where I have spoken falsely about your religion and I will apologize.
Slander

noun​

  1. Oral communication of false and malicious statements that damage the reputation of another.
  2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
  3. A false tale or report maliciously uttered, tending to injure the reputation of another; the malicious utterance of defamatory reports; the dissemination of malicious tales or suggestions to the injury of another.
 

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Elie, Here ya go. Slander = False.

Now you show me where I have spoken falsely about your religion and I will apologize.
Slander

noun​

  1. Oral communication of false and malicious statements that damage the reputation of another.
  2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
  3. A false tale or report maliciously uttered, tending to injure the reputation of another; the malicious utterance of defamatory reports; the dissemination of malicious tales or suggestions to the injury of another.
Sorry but I was having a dialog with the forumer @rebuilder 454 , no with you.

I saw your topics. There is a lot of disorder, prejudice and judgementalism in them.

If you want to talk about something with me, try some Bible topic that you think we are wrong about.

That's what we do, teaching others the things the Bible really teaches.

Some religious people are jealous of that, others are envious of us, etc., but everyone reaps what they sow.
If God blesses us, it is because we are doing something right. Who are men to go against Him?
 
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The obvious hatred and contempt those in Christendom have for the name of Jesus’ God is disheartening.
Jehovah knows who is telling the inconvenient truth, and who are clinging to the convenient lies......

The “good news” that Jesus taught us to preach, will be “bad news” for those who reject it.

Who in Jesus’ day were the biggest haters of truth? It was those misled by their religious leaders who convinced their charges that the truth Jesus preached, (which condemned them) was a lie, and the lies that they promoted about him were the truth. The majority of Jews rejected their own Messiah because he didn’t have a good thing to say about those hypocrites.
Today, history is repeating right under their noses. They are so sure that they cannot be wrong....but the first century Jews who put Christ to death were convinced in the same way, cursing themselves and their children with his blood. (Matt 27:25) What a shock it will be when those like minded ones receive the same judgment that they meet out to those who dare to disagree with them. (Matt 7:21-23)
Satan is laughing at them.....
Read in devotional reading today Rev 3.
Everyone should read Jesus’ evaluation of the first century congregations in Revelation ch 3. The very same issues exist today, as well as the same attitudes. Those too proud to acknowledge their own faults whilst pointing fingers at those who do not uphold their creeds and practices, will soon see that God has not ignored their hypocrisy.

When reading this important chapter, perhaps they should take note of the fact that Jesus speaks of his “God”, when the Revelation was written towards the end of the first century, long after his return to heaven. (Rev 3:2, 12) The fact that Jesus has a God even in heaven is ignored because it fights with their doctrines.

It also speaks of those who think that they are of good standing with God, but whom he views as “miserable and pitiful and poor and blind and naked”......won’t it be interesting to see who is left standing at the judgment? (1 Cor 10:12) Jesus will tell us all who got it right.

No one can judge another’s salvation (as some self-righteous ones continue to do) without endangering their own. (Luke 6:37)
 
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Curious why you linked to threads I started?
It's not only you.

He/she/it managed to put a link for anyone online to go to his/her own opened threads.

If I click on it, it'll take me to the threads I opened, if you click you'll go to yours, and anyone who is online will go to the own threads he/she opened.
 
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It's not only you.

He/she/it managed to put a link for anyone online to go to his/her own opened threads.

If I click on it, it'll take me to the threads I opened, if you click you'll go to yours, and anyone who is online will go to the own threads he/she opened.
Oh. I’ve never seen it do that. It was confusing. Thanks for clearing that up.
 

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Sorry but I was having a dialog with the forumer @rebuilder 454 , no with you.

I saw your topics. There is a lot of disorder, prejudice and judgementalism in them.

If you want to talk about something with me, try some Bible topic that you think we are wrong about.

That's what we do, teaching others the things the Bible really teaches.

Some religious people are jealous of that, others are envious of us, etc., but everyone reaps what they sow.
If God blesses us, it is because we are doing something right. Who are men to go against Him?
Ok. Thank you for not accusing me of slander.
Feel free to add your comment on Q for Keiw thread about Romans ch 6. where I was trying to explain what the bible really teaches there.

If you are saying I am jealous of Jw bible knowledge- that would be a form of slander.
I have no issue with you personally or any other Jw, other than you teach the bible falsely, and it harms others.
They are my concern & Jws as well of course, but I am fully aware of how you view those who disagree with you.
 

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Ok. Thank you for not accusing me of slander.
Feel free to add your comment on Q for Keiw thread about Romans ch 6. where I was trying to explain what the bible really teaches there.

If you are saying I am jealous of Jw bible knowledge- that would be a form of slander.
I have no issue with you personally or any other Jw, other than you teach the bible falsely, and it harms others.
They are my concern & Jws as well of course, but I am fully aware of how you view those who disagree with you.
Accusations without real evidence are slander.

BTW, I never read about a real Christian in the first century who was insulting Jews (or Gentiles) all the way because they didn't believe what they were teaching. That's some modern ("Christian"???) really bad behaviour and its originator is the father of all perversion and mistreatment to others. Jehovah's Witnesses do not engage in such behavior when discussing Bible topics with others.