The social gospel?

[Ritajanice]

Neither do you

I just posted Gods word. You can do whatever you want with it. But do t contradict it

Good God just shaking my head.

If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves and there is no truth in us

We have no sin as we have been Born Of God’s seed...meaning what?

You say you have no sin. So just listen to John

God says/ testifies with our spirit, via His Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit, testifies with our spirit..do you understand that?

There is no sin in a Born Again as they have been Born Of God’s seed......who testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children?

he told you about yourself

I posted Gods word...you don’t understand it’s meaning in your spirit...therefore your in ignorance.

No where in Gods word does he say a “ Born Again “ sins....we can’t as we have been Born Of God’s seed...he sees our sin no more....we are his spirit children...who by his power that indwells our heart, is changing us daily to bare Jesus fruit and be made into Jesus image....he is the potter we are the clay...all according to his purpose and plan...we were chosen spirit children.

 

[Episkopos]

The problem is that you assume and accuse and consider that those who have not been "elevated to sainthood" are all false pretenders and insincere and walking in sin when that is not the case.

If you have actually read my posts without seeing through a haze of faux ego outrage ...you would see that I'm against naming and claiming and assuming and presuming...that identifies modern evangelicalism (and state of the art Phariseeism). With the humble and meek I have no issue...as I believe God has no issue with. Why was Jesus so hard on the Pharisees yet went a LOT easier on the Roman occupiers, the harlots and sinner in general?

Well Jesus says...because you say "we see" your sin "iniquity" remains.

If you went to see a wrestling match, would you be offended if one wrestler won and the other didn't? But if you as a non-wrestler challenged that winner...would you expect to win?...and be very upset if you lost?

So then why can't you understand your own bent in assuming you know what I'm even talking about?

And you have a carnal compartmentalized way of looking at things, which denies so many scriptures.

You have not identified what you call compartmentalization. I have shown over and over again the dual nature of many things associated with God's ways...including the fact that there are 2 tablets of commandments...One for righteousness, and one for holiness. Is that what you mean? Are you taking issue with God?

So much mixture and confusion with things. I'm quite done talking with you.

You are confused because you speak without listening.

 

[Ritajanice]

You are confused because you speak without listening

Most of what you post just lately Epi..., is not biblical....that’s why I can’t listen to what you post, you are going off on your own tangent....

I can only hear the voice of the Holy Spirit...and just lately I hear nothing of the Spirit ministering anything through you....

What are you teaching even?

I’m Born Again, I am led by the Spirit, that’s all I need to know...you complicate Gods word..

What are you actually teaching?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

We have no sin as we have been Born Of God’s seed...meaning what?

God says/ testifies with our spirit, via His Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit, testifies with our spirit..do you understand that?

There is no sin in a Born Again as they have been Born Of God’s seed......who testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children?

I posted Gods word...you don’t understand it’s meaning in your spirit...therefore your in ignorance.

No where in Gods word does he say a “ Born Again “ sins....we can’t as we have been Born Of God’s seed...he sees our sin no more....we are his spirit children...who by his power that indwells our heart, is changing us daily to bare Jesus fruit and be made into Jesus image....he is the potter we are the clay...all according to his purpose and plan...we were chosen spirit children.

Rita

Until you can learn the difference between what the word “how” means and the word “when” means

We can not discuss anything

So I will Move on

If you do. I will Try to Hold a Discussion with you agai

 

[Ritajanice]

Rita

Until you can learn the difference between what the word “how” means and the word “when” means

We can not discuss anything

So I will Move on

If you do. I will Try to Hold a Discussion with you agai

Until you know what it means to be Born Of God’s seed...maybe you will then understand that there is no sin in a child of God Born Again..

How and when has zilch to do with being Born Of Gods seed.

You need to understand the Living divine revelation of Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit...that testifies Gods truth to our hearts/ spirit.

Only the Living Spirit can witness that to your spirit and bring it Alive in Christ.

 

[Episkopos]

Most of what you post just lately Epi..., is not biblical....that’s why I can’t listen to what you post, you are going off on your own tangent....

How so? Are you saying that I'm diverting from my own thread? Aren't you on a bent or tangent that is fixated on the very first step of a race? over and over and over.

I can only hear the voice of the Holy Spirit...and just lately I hear nothing of the Spirit ministering anything through you....

You are deaf. You only have an historical regeneration to fall back on...and you can't advance even one step because you are not looking up or forward...you are stuck in the past.

What are you teaching even?

You would need some discernment to understand kingdom things. You seemed to be understanding some things, then you left it as your outer man ego kicked in...now you are defending FROM your outer man. And you say I'm the one diverting things. The nerve of some people.

I’m Born Again, I am led by the Spirit, that’s all I need to know...you complicate Gods word..

What are you actually teaching?

Many are born again...few have any advancement beyond that, burying their talent and defending their "possessions" as precious...without submitting that to God's will. Many are called, few are chosen.

Anybody can get high-minded and think...I ONLY listen to God. Whereas God speaks to us in many ways...if we are paying any attention.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Until you know what it means to be Born Of God’s seed...maybe you will then understand that there is no sin in a child of God Born Again..

How and when has zilch to do with being Born Of Gods seed.

You need to understand the Living divine revelation of Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit...that testifies Gods truth to our hearts/ spirit.

Only the Living Spirit can witness that to your spirit and bring it Alive in Christ.

So your not willing

I know how. By the spirit.

Good day.

 

[Ritajanice]

How so? Are you saying that I'm diverting from my own thread? Aren't you on a bent or tangent that is fixated on the very first step of a race? over and over and over.

Is your spirit Born Again?

First step of a race...that is not what Born Again means.

You are deaf. You only have an historical regeneration to fall back on...and you can't advance even one step because you are not looking up or forward...you are stuck in the past.

Not biblical Epi...nonsense.

You would need some discernment to understand kingdom things. You seemed to be understanding some things, then you lest it as your outer man ego kicked in...now you are defending FROM your outer man. And you say I'm the one diverting things. The nerve of some people.

Not biblical again Epi..more nonsense.

Many are born again...few have any advancement beyond that, burying their talent and defending their "possessions" as precious...without submitting that to God's will.

You don’t advance you grow and mature in Christ/ the Spirit....plus what you say again isn’t biblical..apart from submission to Gods Spirit, I understand that.

Anybody can get high-minded and think...I ONLY listen to God. Whereas God speaks to us in many ways...if we are paying any attention.

You must be Born Again to hear God...without the Spirit we are none of his.

Sorry @Episkopos being Born Again is all about Jesus and growing in His Spirit...not growing in your own spirit knowledge my friend...that’s all you’ve been posting is all about your own understanding of scripture.

 

[Ritajanice]

So your not willing

I know how. By the spirit.

Good day.

I know how by the spirit...is your language..I won’t even entertain your language.good day also.
.until the next time.

 

[Episkopos]

Is your spirit Born Again?

First step of a race...that is not what Born Again means.

Not biblical Epi...nonsense.

Not biblical again Epi..more nonsense.

You don’t advance you grow and mature in Christ/ the Spirit....plus what you say again isn’t biblical..apart from submission to Gods Spirit, I understand that.

You must be Born Again to hear God...without the Spirit we are none of his.

Sorry @Episkopos being Born Again is all about Jesus and growing in His Spirit...not growing in your own spirit knowledge my friend...that’s all you’ve been posting is all about your own understanding of scripture.

I'm posting a proper understanding of scripture to those who don't have it. I can also help somebody carry the groceries. I don't claim to be growing by doing that. You are filtering everything you read through a self-righteous agenda...on the defensive. You are stuck on an obsession that many can see here.

You don't need to defend anything. If you actually could help people you wouldn't be saying the same things over and over and over like ....Are you saved? Do you know Jesus? Are you a born again? And other VERY silly questions.

You sound like an automaton who is brainwashed...sorry to say.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I'm posting a proper understanding of scripture to those who don't have it. I can also help somebody carry the groceries. I don't claim to be growing by doing that. You are filtering everything you read through a self-righteous agenda...on the defensive. You are stuck on an obsession that many can see here.

lol. You have to know yourself before you can help others. If you do not know how to carry groceries you can’t do that either

You don't need to defend anything. If you actually could help people you wouldn't be saying the same things over and over and over like ....Are you saved? Do you know Jesus? Are you a born again? And other VERY silly questions.

True

You sound like an automaton who is brainwashed...sorry to say.

Sad but may be true

 

[Ritajanice]

I'm posting a proper understanding of scripture to those who don't have it. I can also help somebody carry the groceries. I don't claim to be growing by doing that. You are filtering everything you read through a self-righteous agenda...on the defensive. You are stuck on an obsession that many can see here.

I’m obsessed on the Spirit...that’s who I’m obsessed with and will uncover your false man made doctrine...it’s your doctrine ...as I’ve said...most of what you post isn’t biblical.

You don't need to defend anything. If you actually could help people you wouldn't be saying the same things over and over and over like ....Are you saved? Do you know Jesus? Are you a born again? And other VERY silly questions.

You sound like an automaton who is brainwashed...sorry to say.

The thing is though...you keep repeating your teachings all over this forum.

I don’t care what I sound like...I’m Born Again and it’s imperative for people to know they must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God....that is Gods word I teach..

You just teach your own word...which is nonsensical.most of it!...man made nonsensical nonsense that makes no sense to a Born Again.

 

[Episkopos]

I’m obsessed on the Spirit...that’s who I’m obsessed with and will uncover your false man made doctrine...it’s your doctrine ...as I’ve said...most of what you post isn’t biblical.


The thing is though...you keep repeating your teachings all over this forum.

I don’t care what I sound like...I’m Born Again and it’s imperative for people to know they must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God....that is Gods word I teach..

You just teach your own word...which is nonsensical.most of it!...man made nonsensical nonsense that makes no sense to a Born Again.

To understand spiritual things a person needs to be spiritual in Christ. So your admitting to not understand things I say I take to mean you are immature and stuck in a most basic loop...an obsession...that can't help anyone. You are defending yourself whereas people need to be understood and helped from where they presently are...not just have slogans blared at them. If you can't understand anything beyond step one..how can you expect people who are NOT born of the Spirit to know what step one even is?

I have a long history of helping people into the truth. Of course most people will resist this. My ministry is to save believers into being vessels of honour as opposed to being vessels of dishonour. So I have to contend with many inflated egos that defend how precious they see themselves being.

 

[Ritajanice]

To understand spiritual things a person needs to be spiritual in Christ

To understand spiritual matters..one must be Born Of The Spirit...you say I ask a silly question..so why haven’t you answered it...is your spirit Born Again?

Easy to answer a question ain’t it?

. So your admitting to not understand things I say I take to mean you are immature and stuck in a most basic loop...an obsession...that can't help anyone. You are defending yourself whereas people need to be understood and helped from where they presently are...not just have slogans blared at them. If you can't understand anything beyond step one..how can you expect people who are NOT born of the Spirit to know what step one even is?

I have a long history of helping people into the truth. Of course most people will resist this. My ministry is to save believers into being vessels of honour as opposed to being vessels of dishonour. So I have to contend with many inflated egos that defend how precious they see themselves being.

I’m saying you teach your own religious story..that’s what I’m saying...you are not spiritual whatsoever.imo.

The Spirit teaches his children...we grow up in Christ.

You still act like a baby I’m afraid.

 

[Episkopos]

To understand spiritual matters..one must be Born Of The Spirit...you say I ask a silly question..so why haven’t you answered it...is your spirit Born Again?

Easy to answer a question ain’t it?

I’m saying you teach your own religious story..that’s what I’m saying...you are not spiritual whatsoever.imo.

The Spirit teaches his children...we grow up in Christ.

You still act like a baby I’m afraid.

LOL Are you saved?

Ps. Stop taking yourself so seriously.. ease up a little. This is a forum not an inquisition

 

[Ritajanice]

LOL Are you saved?

Ps. Stop taking yourself so seriously.. ease up a little. This is a forum not an inquisition

I’m Born Again Epi....by divine visitation/ revelation.....

I take being a spirit child of God very seriously Epi!....very seriously indeed!.

I don’t mess with GOD!!!..not knowingly..maybe in ignorance...but, once he testifies with our spirit....there is but no excuse, Epi!...

He revealed something to my heart 33 yrs again....told me to stay well away ,that is what he relayed to my spirit via His Spirit........I wouldn’t dare!! ,go against Him.....I’m shuddering even mentioning it....that is my testimony / belief...not asking anyone to believe it.

Trust me Epi I fear God!......

 

[GodsGrace]

He believes this is when we reach that heavenly place and are saved. Listen to him carefully

I'm not understanding what the other member is saying.

 

[Episkopos]

A tree is known of its fruit. Humans are very complicated creatures...possessing both an inner man and outer man. People are mixed and give mixed signals/messages all the time. The more inconsistent, the more unstable the soul. By inconsistent, I mean not able to communicate in a mature way.

When a person is put under stress, he/she will turn to whatever they think will give them strength. For the uncrucified....that is the outer man defense. These will attack, belittle, scorn, and generally do anything to destroy the perceived threat to their well-being. They know of no other option.

Not so the crucified. When these are put under stress these will turn to God from the inner man...having no confidence in the flesh. The outer man will have been broken and proved to have no value in eternal affairs...or even temporal ones.

The human nature is based on the knowledge of good and evil...a carnal understanding of both....especially as it concerns a self-interest. Not to be trusted at all.

The divine nature is a tree of life for those who have forsaken the flesh and been liberated from it by the gospel.

This forum is artificial in that people are free to discuss, challenge ideas and be likewise challenged. But the point to to learn and apply what is learned. For those who have a good attitude the forum can be very useful. But to those who defend a rigid stance..without openness to correction...that brings a dark pallor to the place.


As a brother recently said. We are just humans and should never put a final point (un point finale) on what God can reveal to us. :)

I wish peace to all! <><

 

[Episkopos]

He believes this is when we reach that heavenly place and are saved. Listen to him carefully

Saved FROM sin. Listen very carefully. :cool:

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I'm not understanding what the other member is saying.

Most people do not. He says things that we have not heard anyplace else. That’s another reason why many call him a cult leader