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Ritajanice

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There's at least one we know of who does not actually know The Word.

God.....by the book? :doldrums:

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We can only know the Living word in our hearts/ spirit Sister....for me when I was Born From Above, when the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods Children....that is a Living supernatural act that only God can perform via His Spirit....

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

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Jesus and Nicodemus
(Genesis 22:1–10; Romans 5:6–11)
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
3Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.a
4“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
 
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You want to stop playing armchair psychologist and reword that last sentence that makes no sense?
You have a soft spot for Rita, okay, but this doesn't help her or her lack of understanding.
Should I charge by the hour ;)
 

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You have a soft spot for Rita, okay, but this doesn't help her or her lack of understanding.
Should I charge by the hour ;)
Please show me my lack of understanding “ Born Again “ scripture...not what you think is “ Born Again “ scripture is.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God?

Are you able to explain What in you has been Born Again? Or are you still a Christian?

Born of the Spirit...what in us must be Born Again?

Now let’s see how well you understand the Bible and spiritual matters...you need heart/ spiritual revelation my friend to be Born Of The Spirit...is that false or true?

Explain what God is saying here.


Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
John 3
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Jesus and Nicodemus
(Genesis 22:1–10; Romans 5:6–11)
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
3Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.a
4“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
 
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Please show me my lack of understanding “ Born Again “ scripture...not what you think is “ Born Again “ scripture is.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God?

Are you able to explain What in you has been Born Again? Or are you still a Christian?

Explain what God is saying here.


Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
John 3
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Jesus and Nicodemus
(Genesis 22:1–10; Romans 5:6–11)
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
3Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.a
4“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
You have already shown your inability to learn and on numerous occasions made incorrect statements on Scripture, which you have made clear your Spirit has guided you into.

No need to ask questions now that you have no intention of learning what the Scripture teaches....after all its just words on a page right?

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You have already shown your inability to learn and on numerous occasions made incorrect statements on Scripture, which you have made clear your Spirit has guided you into.

No need to ask questions now that you have no intention of learning what the Scripture teaches....after all its just words on a page right?

F2F
My dear friend...the Bible is a spiritual book it’s understood in our spirit.

Unfortunately you seem to have no heart/ spiritual revelation of Jesus that’s where we can only know him...in our hearts/ spirit my friend.

We must be Born Again...I learn my friend from God’s Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.

From reading your posts...you are learning from your own human intellect/ understanding..

Our spirit needs to be Alive in Christ/ Born Again...that is the word of God my friend.
 
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My dear friend...the Bible is a spiritual book it’s understood in our spirit.

Unfortunately you seem to have no heart/ spiritual revelation of Jesus that’s where we can only know him...in our hearts/ spirit my friend.

We must be Born Again...I learn my friend from God’s Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.

From reading your posts...you are learning from your own human intellect/ understanding..

Our spirit needs to be Alive in Christ/ Born Again...that is the word of God my friend.
In "your" spirit you made a claim, actually multiple claims that the Word of God (Scripture) was not the medium for this rebirth. When shown you only returned with pride.

Do you want me to show you the post?

1 Peter 1:23 & James 1:21 are unknown to you which leads me to understand the true nature of your spirit.

If they don't speak according to this Word there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20

This is you.

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Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit
@Eternally Grateful denied that Spirit gives birth to spirit....yet God says ,but spirit is Born Of Spirit they mean the same thing.
have you noticed the lower case spirit whose Spirit is that we are Born Of EG?

but spirit is Born Of Spirit whose Spirit are we Born Of?


By the way, you also told me to ditch the Bible that says Spirit gives birth to spirit.

Why would I ditch the Bible that says this?

The Bible didn’t make my spirit Born Again....so not sure why you have said that on a number of occasions?

Born Again/ Born Of The Spirit means exactly the same thing as Spirit gives birth to spirit?

You say you are Born Again...so your spirit has been Born Again? Brought from death to spiritual life? By the power of Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit?

John 31 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council.2 He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. [1] "4 "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit [2] gives birth to spirit.

Our spirit is reborn?

That can only happen from the supernatural power of Gods Living witness His Living Holy Spirit.

He supernaturally brings our spirit Alive in Christ....so that we understand in our spirit who Jesus was.

Jesus is now Spirit he is not on the earth as in human form...therefore we can only know him in our spirit, only by His Living witness His Living Holy Spirit
 
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In "your" spirit you made a claim, actually multiple claims that the Word of God (Scripture) was not the medium for this rebirth. When shown you only returned with pride.
I claim that no one needs to read scripture to be Born from above @face2face ....just as Gods word says below my friend.....scripture is not needed to be Born Again just as Gods word says below.

Scripture clearly states we are Born Again Supernaturally @face2face by the power of Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.....do you deny the written word of God, when I also have Gods witness witnessing this to my spirit as we speak?

Do you deny that the Spirit Of God has made my spirit Born Again by His supernatural Living Power?

Please show me my errors? thank you.
Do you want me to show you the post?

1 Peter 1:23 & James 1:21 are unknown to you which leads me to understand the true nature of your spirit.

If they don't speak according to this Word there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20

This is you.

F2F
Can you please quote Gods word and my errors not your opinions of my posts, thank you

Are you a Christian or are you Born Again ?

What spirit have you been listening to? reading your posts it sounds like you’ve been listening to your own spirit @face2face

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Jesus and Nicodemus
(Genesis 22:1–10; Romans 5:6–11)
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.2He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
3Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.a
4“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘Youb must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”


Now please explain @face2face what Spirit do I have in me?

I’ve even underlined it for you.....do you understand this scripture @face2face ?

Please let’s discuss it?


8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:


17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
 
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1 Peter 1:3.

3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade.

How do we get this inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade?

And how does he give us this new spiritual birth @face2face ?

Where would you know @face2face that Jesus died truly and was resurrected?

Where do you need to know this?

Just by reading God’s written word?

How could you know that Jesus is who he says he is?

Just by reading the written word @face2face ?
 
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That is not what Scripture says.

Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
That describes the condition of the parents.
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Nature is not a sin.

Psalm 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Clearly, that is figurative, not literal
The lost are lost from their conception!
If that is the case, then it is God's fault, not the fault of the individual. God is the only one who could impute uncommitted sin to the one being conceived.

You should read Ezekiel chapter 18.
 

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Jesus would have died an old man if his life was extended, not because he sinned but due to him inheriting a nature which is corrupting and condemned.

You know all the verses - now you are trying to make sense of it all for the first time - thats tough!

F2F
I disagree. He would never have died. he did nto inherit Adam's sin.. He was created, as Adam. If he did. He would have not been able to sacrifice..

He is called the second Adam for a reason.

the first one sinned, and caused all mankind to be separated from God

The second came and did nto sin, and willfully as an innocent chose to become exasperated from God for our benefit so all mankind could be saved

Make sense of what? I see nothing that makes sense so far.
 
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You have this wrong... you should have written this...

"Yes. he tasted the death we (including Christ) had, and needed saved from"

If in the we you included the Lord then you are moving to truth.
You failed to show something

I said we were dead.

You failed to respond to that.

this response is nonsensical because if totally forgets the first part. We were dead. and needed to be born again (a second time)

please respond to that
The issue is you don't understand death - the cessation of life.
I understand death perfectly

Physical death is the separation of the body and the soul or spirit. As Paul said, to be absent from the body is to be present from the lord. This body dies. Yet the soul will continue, it does not cease.

Spiritual death is seperation of our person from God. While we are physically alive, we have a barrier between God and man, It is this barrier that must be broken if we are to be born again.
God is a God of the living not the dead - but you say the dead have eternal life already so they are not dead.
My body is dead because of sin, My spirit is alive because of righteousness (Christ's)

I have eternal life already..
If you understood that Jesus Christ was 100% completely dead in the grave then you would begin to understand the importance of the subject.
I Understand he was completely 100% dead on the cross. that's why he cried out for the first time.

And that he let his spirit die. and went into the grave.

You still have not answered my question about why Jesus had to die since the penalty of sin was already redeemed (it is finished)

will you?
You don't understand the "sting" of death (physical) because you think people have divine essence in them.

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I have no idea what you mean here. or what it has to do with Jesus completing the payment for sin on the cross BEFORE he died physically.

Will you please answer y question? (If you did not in the next post)
 

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Spiritual death is seperation of our person from God
You have just contradicted Gods word..he said we were spiritually dead, now your saying of our person is separated from God.

Not Biblical.

Our spirit was dead, not our person, that is why we need to be Born Of The Spirit.

Not as you have said on previous posts...” Born Again Of Me” that too isn’t biblical.

Ephesians 2:1-10​




1 In the past you were spiritually dead because of your disobedience and sins. 1
 
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My body is dead because of sin, My spirit is alive because of righteousness (Christ's)

I have eternal life already..
Your spirit is Alive because it’s been Born Of The Spirit, then you are clothed in Christ’s righteousness.

Revelation 19:6–8Reminds Us that We are Clothed in Righteousness. We are clothed in righteousness. Whose righteousness are we clothed in? We're clothed in the righteousness of Jesus.

How can you be in the righteousness of Christ, if you aren’t Born Of The Spirit?..Born Of God’s seed?
 
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It's odd because when I asked you how God condemned sin in the life and body of Christ you are not able to currently answer this.

Romans 8:1-3 does but you are not talking to the text.

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I look to the whole word. Not one text pulled out of context.

Romans 8: 1 is clear. there is no no more condemnation to those who are in Christ.

Amen, Whoever is born of God has been raised from the dead and are living in christ. this life being eternal (john 3)

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,

The law of the spirit of life in Christ vs the law of death (mosaic law)

The law could not save us, because as paul said in Galatians 3. cursed is the one who does not obey ever word (literally every jot and tittle) And as James said, if we keep the whole law. yet stumble in one point, we are guilty of all.
Jesus came in the flesh (as Adam, Able to sin, but also able not to sin. not cursed with the death of adams sin)

He took that penalty the curse of the law. as it says cursed is the one who hands on a tree.

Galations 3 is quite extensive in explaining why there is no more condemnation.

anyway. You still have not answered why Jesus said it is finished (amazing how he had stopped screaming in agony, and is once again calm. was he born again??)

I think he was.
 

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Why would I have to study the word?
Because God tells you to.

If you studied the word. you would know this..
I’m Born Again, the Holy Spirit leads me through scripture, so tell me I already know that I am Born Of The Spirit, so why would I constantly need to study scripture?

What would happen to me if I had no access to a Bible?

By the way your last sentence makes no sense to my spirit?
Your spirit?

lol.. I feel so sorry for you
 

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Because God tells you to.

You do not have to study any bible to be Born Of The Spirit.

The Holy Spirit leads us through scripture and brings it to our understanding in our spirit.

We only need the written word to mature and grow in Christ.

We won’t die in our spirit without the written word..we have been Born Of God’s seed, which liveth and abideth forever in our heart/spirit.....we would just never grow and mature that is all if we didn’t read the written word.
If you studied the word. you would know this..

Your spirit?

lol.. I feel so sorry for you
You said you are Born Again, I asked you what was Born Again in you ...you said “ ME”...that is not how Gods written word says we are Born Of The Spirit.
 
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Talking again of John 1:10-13.
The reason why they received Him, they were born of God first.
Of course, they then have the right to be the children of God, as they have fulfilled all righteousness that God intended for them.
Their receiving of Him is a witness to the universe around them, that they now belong to God and are no longer spiritually dead.
But the work of God had already been done for them to be the children of God and they show that they are the children of God because they received Him. They had HIS WORD abiding in their HEART, meaning they were born again, and it also in v13 specifically says the will of the man is not involved.

13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Again, here it is written another way in John 5, referring to those who do not have God's word abiding in their heart. That word is a living word from God, and it fundamentally changes a person, makes them born again, therefore then spiritually minded, so that when Christ appears to them, they believe in Him.
If you do not have that, then you will be unwilling to come to Christ and be saved.

35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing for a time to rejoice in his light. 36 But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me.

37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

41 “I do not receive honor from men. 42 But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. 43 I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. 44 How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? 45 Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Being born of God always must come first as otherwise they are only naturally minded, not spiritually minded. And the natural mind does not receive the things of the Spirit of God. They have not been changed by the Spirit; they do not have that new spirit from God within them.

The natural mind also has enmity against God. It is not able to believe or obey the Spirit of God.
Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.


Everyone though who is spiritually minded as God's gift to them will believe in the things of the Spirit, and the Spirit of God leads us to Christ.
Paul for example was born again from above when He saw the Christ on the road to Damascus.
Only then did Paul believe in the Lord Jesus. Jesus did tell Paul he was resisting God and hurting himself, as all naturally minded people resist the Spirit of God and hurt themselves by resisting Him. It takes a work of God on your behalf for you to believe in His Son, Jesus the Christ.
Acts 9
Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest 2 and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

3 As he journeyed he came near Damascus, and suddenly a light shone around him from heaven. 4 Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?”

5 And he said, “Who are You, Lord?”

Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. [a]It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”

6 So he, trembling and astonished, said, “Lord, what do You want me to do?”

Then the Lord said to him, “Arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”

7 And the men who journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice but seeing no one. 8 Then Saul arose from the ground, and when his eyes were opened he saw no one. But they led him by the hand and brought him into Damascus. 9 And he was three days without sight, and neither ate nor drank.


1 Cor 2
9 But as it is written:

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the [d]Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Romans 8 specifically mentions all these concepts of truth.
3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be [b]carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the [c]carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.