Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

[Arthur81]

Before celebrating Pride month, please read this

The celebration of Pride Month in our culture has become an opportunity to attack Christianity and say that it is a religion of hate. To say that authentic Christians hate or fear homosexuals or the trans-community demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of Christianity.

www.christiantoday.com

This author makes the claim that "Jesus condemned 'all' sexual activity outside of marriage between a man and a woman", and based it on the following verse:

"For out of the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, railings:" (Matt 15:19 ASV)

He points out that our word "pornography" comes from that word porneia and seems to conclude that means since there is gay porn, the Greek porneia condemns gay sex. That is a strange argument, because our word "pharmacy" comes from the Greek G5331 φαρμακεία pharmakeia; where it is translated "witchcraft" in the KJV, "sorcery" in the RSV (Gal. 5:19)... does that make pharmacies evil or sinful? What about his argument, apparently on the word "fornication", check the meaning of the word:

Fornication -
1890 Classic Strong's and Liddell Scott Jones Lexicon of Classical Greek -
G4202 πορνεία porneia por-ni'-ahFrom G4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry:—fornication.
The LSJ - πορν-εία , Ion. πορν-είη , ἡ , prostitution, Hp. Epid. 7.122 , etc.; of a man, D. 19.200 ; fornication, unchastity, Ev.Matt. 19.9: pl., 1 Ep.Cor. 7.2 . II metaph., idolatry, LXX Ho. 4.11 ,al.
(This is the word Jesus used in Matt. 15:19.)

G4203 πορνεύω porneuō porn-yoo'-o From G4204; to act the harlot, that is, (literally) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (figuratively) practise idolatry:—commit (fornication).
The LSJ - πορν-εύω , prostitute, mostly in Pass. , of a woman, prostitute herself, be or become a prostitute, Hdt. 1.93 , Eup. 67 , Lys. Fr. 59 ; of a man, Aeschin. 1.52 , 119, D. 19.233 . II intr. in Act. , = Pass. , LXX De. 23.17(18) , Luc. Alex. 5 , Phalar. Ep. 121 , Harp.s.v. πὠλῶσι; fornicate, 1 Ep.Cor. 6.18 .
2. metaph., practise idolatry, LXX 1 Ch. 5.25 , al.

G4204 πόρνη pornē por'-nay Feminine of G4205; a strumpet; figuratively an idolater:—harlot, whore.
The LSJ - πόρν-η , ἡ , harlot, prostitute, Archil. 142 , Ar. Ach. 527 , etc. (Prob.from πέρνημι, because Greek prostitutes were commonly bought slaves. )

G4205 πόρνος pornos por'-nos From πέρνημι pernēmi (to sell; akin to the base of G4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), that is, (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine):—fornicator, whoremonger.
THE LSJ - πόρνος , ὁ , catamite, Ar. Pl. 155 , X. Mem. 1.6.13 , D. 22.73 , Alex. 242 , etc.
2. sodomite, D. Ep. 4.11 , Phalar. Ep. 4 .
3. in LXX and NT, fornicator, LXX Si. 23.16 , 1 Ep.Cor. 5.9 , al. II idolater, Suid.

None of these NT Greek words is ever found in the Bible to apply to male to male sin? In fact, G4205 is translated "fornicator" and is distinguished from the Greek arsenokoites in 1 Cor. 6:9

 

[GracePeace]

Before celebrating Pride month, please read this

The celebration of Pride Month in our culture has become an opportunity to attack Christianity and say that it is a religion of hate. To say that authentic Christians hate or fear homosexuals or the trans-community demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of Christianity.

www.christiantoday.com

This author makes the claim that "Jesus condemned 'all' sexual activity outside of marriage between a man and a woman", and based it on the following verse:

"For out of the heart come forth evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, railings:" (Matt 15:19 ASV)

He points out that our word "pornography" comes from that word porneia and seems to conclude that means since there is gay porn, the Greek porneia condemns gay sex. That is a strange argument, because our word "pharmacy" comes from the Greek G5331 φαρμακεία pharmakeia; where it is translated "witchcraft" in the KJV, "sorcery" in the RSV (Gal. 5:19)... does that make pharmacies evil or sinful? What about his argument, apparently on the word "fornication", check the meaning of the word:

Fornication -
1890 Classic Strong's and Liddell Scott Jones Lexicon of Classical Greek -
G4202 πορνεία porneia por-ni'-ahFrom G4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry:—fornication.
The LSJ - πορν-εία , Ion. πορν-είη , ἡ , prostitution, Hp. Epid. 7.122 , etc.; of a man, D. 19.200 ; fornication, unchastity, Ev.Matt. 19.9: pl., 1 Ep.Cor. 7.2 . II metaph., idolatry, LXX Ho. 4.11 ,al.
(This is the word Jesus used in Matt. 15:19.)

G4203 πορνεύω porneuō porn-yoo'-o From G4204; to act the harlot, that is, (literally) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (figuratively) practise idolatry:—commit (fornication).
The LSJ - πορν-εύω , prostitute, mostly in Pass. , of a woman, prostitute herself, be or become a prostitute, Hdt. 1.93 , Eup. 67 , Lys. Fr. 59 ; of a man, Aeschin. 1.52 , 119, D. 19.233 . II intr. in Act. , = Pass. , LXX De. 23.17(18) , Luc. Alex. 5 , Phalar. Ep. 121 , Harp.s.v. πὠλῶσι; fornicate, 1 Ep.Cor. 6.18 .
2. metaph., practise idolatry, LXX 1 Ch. 5.25 , al.

G4204 πόρνη pornē por'-nay Feminine of G4205; a strumpet; figuratively an idolater:—harlot, whore.
The LSJ - πόρν-η , ἡ , harlot, prostitute, Archil. 142 , Ar. Ach. 527 , etc. (Prob.from πέρνημι, because Greek prostitutes were commonly bought slaves. )

G4205 πόρνος pornos por'-nos From πέρνημι pernēmi (to sell; akin to the base of G4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), that is, (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine):—fornicator, whoremonger.
THE LSJ - πόρνος , ὁ , catamite, Ar. Pl. 155 , X. Mem. 1.6.13 , D. 22.73 , Alex. 242 , etc.
2. sodomite, D. Ep. 4.11 , Phalar. Ep. 4 .
3. in LXX and NT, fornicator, LXX Si. 23.16 , 1 Ep.Cor. 5.9 , al. II idolater, Suid.

None of these NT Greek words is ever found in the Bible to apply to male to male sin? In fact, G4205 is translated "fornicator" and is distinguished from the Greek arsenokoites in 1 Cor. 6:9

Fornication is sex outside of marriage--in the Law, which Jesus upheld, such were to be put to death.
Adultery is sex outside of marriage--in the Law, which Jesus upheld, such were to be put to death.

What is marriage?
According to Jesus, it is in Genesis 1: a man shall cling to his wife and they shall become one flesh.

So, marriage is a man and a woman for life, and anything outside of that is worthy of the death penalty.

"It just so happens" that the Law condemns those who engage in homosexual activity to death.

It's the most basic reality, but people who worship satan pretend it's "complicated".
No, it's not "complicated"; you are just plainly saying "NO, GOD, I WILL NOT OBEY!"

 

[The Learner]

I am reading Hosea, why was not his wife put to death?1

 

[GracePeace]

I am reading Hosea, why was not his wife put to death?1

You obviously don't know how to read, because his marriage to a whore/promiscuous woman was a sign about how God was being longsuffering with His people.

 

[Behold]

This author makes the claim that "Jesus condemned 'all' sexual activity outside of marriage between a man and a woman", and based it on the following verse:

"And a man shall leave father and mother and cleave to his Wife".

Paul teaches this as "flesh joining flesh".

its Sexual Intercourse... and its to become "ONE FLESH" with that person., and all of this is related to "the natural use of the woman" by the Male, as Paul explains in Romans 1.

Paul then explains that unnatural sexual defilement, (homosexual)... is when men leave this "natural use of a woman", , as God created intercourse to be male and female.. and instead their "homo-sexual" sex, is defined as :

="(men,) leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.""

Notice "working that which is unseemly"..

This means gay sex (homosexual sex) is unnatural, perverted, "Queer"...= Strange, odd., and in the context of God's Morality, its immoral, its an abomination.

Currently, Homosexuals can go to their Doctor and receive an "Aid's pack" and if they take it, they wont get Aids, and this allows them to continue their homo-sexual LIFESTYLE...., unabated and unashamed, and not DIE.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

"And a man shall leave father and mother and cleave to his Wife".

Paul teaches this as "flesh joining flesh".

its Sexual Intercourse... and its to become "ONE FLESH" with that person., and all of this is related to "the natural use of the woman" by the Male, as Paul explains in Romans 1.

Paul then explains that unnatural sexual defilement, (homosexual)... is when men leave this "natural use of a woman", , as God created intercourse to be male and female.. and instead their "homo-sexual" sex, is defined as :

="(men,) leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.""

Notice "working that which is unseemly"..

This means gay sex (homosexual sex) is unnatural, perverted, "Queer"...= Strange, odd., and in the context of God's Morality, its immoral, its an abomination.

Currently, Homosexuals can go to their Doctor and receive an "Aid's pack" and if they take it, they wont get Aids, and this allows them to continue their homo-sexual LIFESTYLE...., unabated and unashamed, and not DIE.

Pervertied ! Depraved ! describe what the Governments in the West are peddling in fact ! for they are supporting the depraved and perverted in fact !
Who could say that they are not !
They are guilty of that and they will go to Hell for undermining people.

A Gay person may not be as is promoted by the Government and sponsored ? for some maybe just like a little boy, who would fear such as any sexual incounter at all, but are just truly not a real man or on the other hand not truly that of a real woman, by that i mean one of virtue ! that one inspires and is looked up to in fact ?

But under the banner of Gay rights, all of the people who are not of virtue, and that dignity that God looks to as his people in fact is that one of Virtue ! Then on the other hand we see the Gay pride is one of the wide gate ? so that of the little boy type is come under the umbrella of the perverted and all the way to the empowerment of the totally depraved in fact ! That's the problem !
For They pervert the little boy type simple brainbox, that they are being given power ? They are empowering themselves ! that's what they are doing ! and it does not stop their as it keeps going all the way to child molesters in fact ! just give them time and all will be demanded of everyone, not to frown on them as well. because they can not help it just as you can not help yourself from stealing things that you have no rights to take, them becomes a given right for you to have ?

Hey don't the Goverments support rape in their prison system. one can get rapped in jail and their is nothing one can do about that at all ! when have you seen one case of rape in jail convicted ? i worked with a screw who worked for many years as a screw and he said that such was was seen as nothing, just an everyday thing. Zero regard for such at all, ment nothing at all to him.

So what the Socialist are intent on doing is creating one big Jail world wide, a Zoo of un Godly a depraved total filth mongering creep show.
Look at the Comedians nowadays, they are not funny, they peddle filth and depravity for a cheap joke in fact ! just look at Zelensky for one he is just that a totaly depraved Comedian ! my wife turned his show off that was on TV because it was depraved and so cheap nonsense. as so is all of the Gay Comedians that is pushed on TV nowadays, it's not funny at all, but only angers you, because it undermines people to the lowest denominator creep show. promoting drugs and that way of life as well as the new normal. Evil !

 

[BlessedPeace]

I tried to identify as a billionaire once. My bank wasn't amused.


He identifies as Trans-Fat.

 

[Behold]

Pervertied ! Depraved ! describe what the Governments in the West are peddling in fact ! for they are supporting the depraved and perverted in fact !

The USA is the largest worldwide exporter of Media driven "sexual perversion" "rights".

It really all began to root and bud and explode, in 2003 when the TEXAS Supreme court took on a case of "public Sodomy".

Here is how they Voted..

'"""Lawrence v. Texas (2003) is a landmark case, in which the Supreme Court of the United States, in 6-3 decision, invalidated sodomy law across the United States, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every State and United States territory."""

At that time, i began to go online to the Forums, and i told them...>"Gay is coming".."They are going after your kids".... "They are going to be bringing Gay Curriculum into the Schools", Its going to be legitimized and SOLD as "rights".

And Christian forums, and secular, told me this..

"you are a HOMOPHOBE".., "you have got to be kidding". "God loves Gays, why doint you"..

So, 20+ yrs later, "GAY" agenda is like a perversion virus.. gone wild.... Its in many TV commercials, its sells you PIZZA, and sells you Drugs, ......It sells the idea that you are "born this way"... It tries to attract the 6-20 yr olds into "trying it"... "you know, you have a choice, so decide if you are"..
"Let your sexuality be FLUID".. ."there is no ONE Sexuality, there are MANY"... "Try one" "Pick one, pick a few".

The first 2 Gay Agenda designed "Let us lead you into something Gay" TV shows.. were called :

1.) "QUEER EYE for the STRAIGHT Guy

2.) "Will and Grace"

You then had : "The L Word", that was to recruit young girls into this dark sexuality.

These 3 TV shows began the indoctrination, and its just gotten worse.

The First USA President to openly endorse Gay Sex, Rights, was BARAK OBAMA.. who told the Gay Voting BLOCK... "if you help get me elected i will be a President who will help you.""

What was Obama's very 1st Executive Order?

"eliminate Don't Ask and Don't Tell", and no longer HIDE "Gays in the Military".

And it has just gotten worse., and will continue, worldwide..... as this is the main "end times" sign that the Born again are to understand that is the OTHER one, along with "the world is going to UNITE against ISRAEL".

Those 2 Signs, show us that the Trib is so close that we can feel the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH, all around us.

 

[BlessedPeace]

The USA is the largest worldwide exporter of Media driven "sexual perversion" "rights".

It really all began to root and bud and explode, in 2003 when the TEXAS Supreme court took on a case of "public Sodomy".

Here is how they Voted..

'"""Lawrence v. Texas (2003) is a landmark case, in which the Supreme Court of the United States, in 6-3 decision, invalidated sodomy law across the United States, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every State and United States territory."""

That case set a precedent. Other state courts can address the decision and adapt the prior state court decision in their state.

A state court can't make a decision that affects change to the laws of other states.Theres a process.

At that time, i began to go online to the Forums, and i told them...>"Gay is coming".."They are going after your kids".... "They are going to be bringing Gay Curriculum into the Schools", Its going to be legitimized and SOLD as "rights".

And Christian forums, and secular, told me this..

"you are a HOMOPHOBE".., "you have got to be kidding". "God loves Gays, why doint you"..

So, 20+ yrs later, "GAY" agenda is like a perversion virus.. gone wild.... Its in many TV commercials, its sells you PIZZA, and sells you Drugs, ......It sells the idea that you are "born this way"... It tries to attract the 6-20 yr olds into "trying it"... "you know, you have a choice, so decide if you are"..
"Let your sexuality be FLUID".. ."there is no ONE Sexuality, there are MANY"... "Try one" "Pick one, pick a few".

The first 2 Gay Agenda designed "Let us lead you into something Gay" TV shows.. were called :

1.) "QUEER EYE for the STRAIGHT Guy

2.) "Will and Grace"

You then had : "The L Word", that was to recruit young girls into this dark sexuality.

These 3 TV shows began the indoctrination, and its just gotten worse.

The First USA President to openly endorse Gay Sex, Rights, was BARAK OBAMA.. who told the Gay Voting BLOCK... "if you help get me elected i will be a President who will help you.""

What was Obama's very 1st Executive Order?

"eliminate Don't Ask and Don't Tell", and no longer HIDE "Gays in the Military".

And it has just gotten worse., and will continue, worldwide..... as this is the main "end times" sign that the Born again are to understand that is the OTHER one, along with "the world is going to UNITE against ISRAEL".

Those 2 Signs, show us that the Trib is so close that we can feel the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH, all around us.

It was and is an agenda.
Television got its blueprint from a 1989 book and they followed its directives.

After the Ball (Kirk and Madsen book) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Behold]

That case set a precedent.

"precedent"

This is always the root that grows the poison Tree that just keeps on growing.

And God knows what its grown into is unholy abomination.

Its difficult to imagine what HOLY HOLY HOLY God feels, when He witnesses 2 Gay males, being given little boys, as "gay adoption rights".

 

[BlessedPeace]

"precedent"

This is always the root that grows the poison Tree that just keeps on growing.

And God knows what its grown into is unholy abomination.

Its difficult to imagine what HOLY HOLY HOLY God feels, when He witnesses 2 Gay males, being given little boys, as "gay adoption rights".

Well, if criminal illegal invaders into America are allowed under the 14th amendment to give birth to their breed of offspring while within our borders as a Constitutionally lawful venue that permits them to then stay, and reap alllllllll the rewards for it like, WIC,SNAP,Medicaid, Section 8,etc .... is it a surprise the 14th is again invoked to give Sodomites the right to breed or adopt offspring?


You think Hell has a moral code.

Silly boy. ;)

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The USA is the largest worldwide exporter of Media driven "sexual perversion" "rights".

It really all began to root and bud and explode, in 2003 when the TEXAS Supreme court took on a case of "public Sodomy".

Here is how they Voted..

'"""Lawrence v. Texas (2003) is a landmark case, in which the Supreme Court of the United States, in 6-3 decision, invalidated sodomy law across the United States, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every State and United States territory."""

At that time, i began to go online to the Forums, and i told them...>"Gay is coming".."They are going after your kids".... "They are going to be bringing Gay Curriculum into the Schools", Its going to be legitimized and SOLD as "rights".

And Christian forums, and secular, told me this..

"you are a HOMOPHOBE".., "you have got to be kidding". "God loves Gays, why doint you"..

So, 20+ yrs later, "GAY" agenda is like a perversion virus.. gone wild.... Its in many TV commercials, its sells you PIZZA, and sells you Drugs, ......It sells the idea that you are "born this way"... It tries to attract the 6-20 yr olds into "trying it"... "you know, you have a choice, so decide if you are"..
"Let your sexuality be FLUID".. ."there is no ONE Sexuality, there are MANY"... "Try one" "Pick one, pick a few".

The first 2 Gay Agenda designed "Let us lead you into something Gay" TV shows.. were called :

1.) "QUEER EYE for the STRAIGHT Guy

2.) "Will and Grace"

You then had : "The L Word", that was to recruit young girls into this dark sexuality.

These 3 TV shows began the indoctrination, and its just gotten worse.

The First USA President to openly endorse Gay Sex, Rights, was BARAK OBAMA.. who told the Gay Voting BLOCK... "if you help get me elected i will be a President who will help you.""

What was Obama's very 1st Executive Order?

"eliminate Don't Ask and Don't Tell", and no longer HIDE "Gays in the Military".

And it has just gotten worse., and will continue, worldwide..... as this is the main "end times" sign that the Born again are to understand that is the OTHER one, along with "the world is going to UNITE against ISRAEL".

Those 2 Signs, show us that the Trib is so close that we can feel the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH, all around us.

I was talking to an old mate 2 weeks ago and such came up about all this rot and i said that the school teachers have said in class to the kids from grade one on i think ? or it maybe from 13 year old's on and up to try it ? what you just said. Try it ? and i said hey that's not on !
No teacher in a school should say to the kids, to try anything sexual at all ! They have no right to say such rubbish !

I said that i believe that children should not be exposed or pointed out to try anything period ! not to mention i believe if a young child has a sexual incounter brought on by the school teachers telling them to experment ? the Teacher should go to Jail in fact for they are grooming a child for being a deviot ! not to mention i said to my mate, that such a child will be corrupted and such is not good for their mental well being. because such only brings one down in fact and never will raise one up wards, Never ! and he agreed with me.

By right's one should only have one lover and that's the one you are married to. that's the way my generation and the past was directed as the good and healthy respectible norm. and i respected that point of view was the right way to go ! it does not happen that way for most ? but the relationship with another must be one of mutual respect, if not it's stupid not worthy of anyone truly at all. as such only brings one down.
I think that gay's who run about like a mongrel dog as with anyone who is depraved should never be encoraged ever regardless, for such is in fact deranged. Gays are like that, ready to go regardless with anyone ? I do not respect anyone that is like that at all !

I know two people well who were pathetic skirt chasers, it's not good, it's a sickness and it's abuse in fact, for they lower themselves and the other party to such. it's rubbish ! but they think that they are a king ? but it's infact an ego driven tossers life, who respects them ? no one respects that, unless one is depraved !

My mate i was talking to, is a singer and player in a Band for over 40 years and he has always had groupy's who follow him around, he does play up, for the girls are always after him, but he does not look up to such a thing or boast of such things at all. he looks down on them for such in fact. we were walking through a shopping center and a woman was walking by and looking at him in a way and i thought ? then he said that she has sex with him once but he said to me, that he has denied such to her fact. she is good looking and all. but that's how he has to be, because such as they can creat trouble for him and he just does not want to know them. he has had 4 wives but never went out of his way to go play up on them. and he hates queers in general but some he is ok with, he is not stupid about it. but the problem nowadays with such is that comunity standards dictate to him, that he can not just speek openly and freely his opinions. that we once had every right to such freedom in fact. but the comunity standards are not worthy of Jack S in fact truly at all, for it's all shallow grub bigot like dictates forced over all ! like a school system that works to undermine children with sexual depravity, like try it and see who you are ? ! retards ! that's what it all comes down to is backward Retards ! Dictating nonsense ! and getting away with it all ! that's the problem, no one is holding them up to be accountable !
If one tryed to undermine my children i would punch them in the mouth directly for trying, my wife and I had worked dilegently on their up bringing and they have good moral standards thank God ! i would be freeking out if they were not. and i do not have any intent to tell them what to do at all.

Talking to my old mate about such came on because his wife now has her girl 14yo having sex with another 15yo boy and my mate will not stand for such in his house and so his wife has gone renting by herself for 6 months, so the 14yo can have sex what's wrong with a mother who lets a 14yo have sex, my brother had the same issue with his wifes 14yo girl and my brother hated that, not to mention because it looks badly on him as a total fool ! but he had no control over such at all, for you are pointed out as the Monster ! by women and i do not know any of my mates who suports such at all.

So it looks like my mate will loose his house and all because he will not stand for a 14yo girl in his house doing such and giving him a hard time. he said he is not going to change, because it's just not him, or he would be living a Lie and claiming to be another person that he is not ! he said he can not do it.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I was talking to an old mate 2 weeks ago and such came up about all this rot and i said that the school teachers have said in class to the kids from grade one on i think ? or it maybe from 13 year old's on and up to try it ? what you just said. Try it ? and i said hey that's not on !
No teacher in a school should say to the kids, to try anything sexual at all ! They have no right to say such rubbish !

I said that i believe that children should not be exposed or pointed out to try anything period ! not to mention i believe if a young child has a sexual incounter brought on by the school teachers telling them to experment ? the Teacher should go to Jail in fact for they are grooming a child for being a deviot ! not to mention i said to my mate, that such a child will be corrupted and such is not good for their mental well being. because such only brings one down in fact and never will raise one up wards, Never ! and he agreed with me.

By right's one should only have one lover and that's the one you are married to. that's the way my generation and the past was directed as the good and healthy respectible norm. and i respected that point of view was the right way to go ! it does not happen that way for most ? but the relationship with another must be one of mutual respect, if not it's stupid not worthy of anyone truly at all. as such only brings one down.
I think that gay's who run about like a mongrel dog as with anyone who is depraved should never be encoraged ever regardless, for such is in fact deranged. Gays are like that, ready to go regardless with anyone ? I do not respect anyone that is like that at all !

I know two people well who were pathetic skirt chasers, it's not good, it's a sickness and it's abuse in fact, for they lower themselves and the other party to such. it's rubbish ! but they think that they are a king ? but it's infact an ego driven tossers life, who respects them ? no one respects that, unless one is depraved !

My mate i was talking to, is a singer and player in a Band for over 40 years and he has always had groupy's who follow him around, he does play up, for the girls are always after him, but he does not look up to such a thing or boast of such things at all. he looks down on them for such in fact. we were walking through a shopping center and a woman was walking by and looking at him in a way and i thought ? then he said that she has sex with him once but he said to me, that he has denied such to her fact. she is good looking and all. but that's how he has to be, because such as they can creat trouble for him and he just does not want to know them. he has had 4 wives but never went out of his way to go play up on them. and he hates queers in general but some he is ok with, he is not stupid about it. but the problem nowadays with such is that comunity standards dictate to him, that he can not just speek openly and freely his opinions. that we once had every right to such freedom in fact. but the comunity standards are not worthy of Jack S in fact truly at all, for it's all shallow grub bigot like dictates forced over all ! like a school system that works to undermine children with sexual depravity, like try it and see who you are ? ! retards ! that's what it all comes down to is backward Retards ! Dictating nonsense ! and getting away with it all ! that's the problem, no one is holding them up to be accountable !
If one tryed to undermine my children i would punch them in the mouth directly for trying, my wife and I had worked dilegently on their up bringing and they have good moral standards thank God ! i would be freeking out if they were not. and i do not have any intent to tell them what to do at all.

Talking to my old mate about such came on because his wife now has her girl 14yo having sex with another 15yo boy and my mate will not stand for such in his house and so his wife has gone renting by herself for 6 months, so the 14yo can have sex what's wrong with a mother who lets a 14yo have sex, my brother had the same issue with his wifes 14yo girl and my brother hated that, not to mention because it looks badly on him as a total fool ! but he had no control over such at all, for you are pointed out as the Monster ! by women and i do not know any of my mates who suports such at all.

So it looks like my mate will loose his house and all because he will not stand for a 14yo girl in his house doing such and giving him a hard time. he said he is not going to change, because it's just not him, or he would be living a Lie and claiming to be another person that he is not ! he said he can not do it.

I don't know the laws in Australia
However, if there is an age of consent minimum for sex, I'd say your friend with the immoral wife who is allowing a 14 yo. to sex a 15 year old boy may have a case to take full custody of the child.

When the wife moved out so the minor child could assume such a lifestyle the law could see that as a separation of husband and wife.

 

[RLT63]

I was talking to an old mate 2 weeks ago and such came up about all this rot and i said that the school teachers have said in class to the kids from grade one on i think ? or it maybe from 13 year old's on and up to try it ? what you just said. Try it ? and i said hey that's not on !
No teacher in a school should say to the kids, to try anything sexual at all ! They have no right to say such rubbish !

I said that i believe that children should not be exposed or pointed out to try anything period ! not to mention i believe if a young child has a sexual incounter brought on by the school teachers telling them to experment ? the Teacher should go to Jail in fact for they are grooming a child for being a deviot ! not to mention i said to my mate, that such a child will be corrupted and such is not good for their mental well being. because such only brings one down in fact and never will raise one up wards, Never ! and he agreed with me.

By right's one should only have one lover and that's the one you are married to. that's the way my generation and the past was directed as the good and healthy respectible norm. and i respected that point of view was the right way to go ! it does not happen that way for most ? but the relationship with another must be one of mutual respect, if not it's stupid not worthy of anyone truly at all. as such only brings one down.
I think that gay's who run about like a mongrel dog as with anyone who is depraved should never be encoraged ever regardless, for such is in fact deranged. Gays are like that, ready to go regardless with anyone ? I do not respect anyone that is like that at all !

I know two people well who were pathetic skirt chasers, it's not good, it's a sickness and it's abuse in fact, for they lower themselves and the other party to such. it's rubbish ! but they think that they are a king ? but it's infact an ego driven tossers life, who respects them ? no one respects that, unless one is depraved !

My mate i was talking to, is a singer and player in a Band for over 40 years and he has always had groupy's who follow him around, he does play up, for the girls are always after him, but he does not look up to such a thing or boast of such things at all. he looks down on them for such in fact. we were walking through a shopping center and a woman was walking by and looking at him in a way and i thought ? then he said that she has sex with him once but he said to me, that he has denied such to her fact. she is good looking and all. but that's how he has to be, because such as they can creat trouble for him and he just does not want to know them. he has had 4 wives but never went out of his way to go play up on them. and he hates queers in general but some he is ok with, he is not stupid about it. but the problem nowadays with such is that comunity standards dictate to him, that he can not just speek openly and freely his opinions. that we once had every right to such freedom in fact. but the comunity standards are not worthy of Jack S in fact truly at all, for it's all shallow grub bigot like dictates forced over all ! like a school system that works to undermine children with sexual depravity, like try it and see who you are ? ! retards ! that's what it all comes down to is backward Retards ! Dictating nonsense ! and getting away with it all ! that's the problem, no one is holding them up to be accountable !
If one tryed to undermine my children i would punch them in the mouth directly for trying, my wife and I had worked dilegently on their up bringing and they have good moral standards thank God ! i would be freeking out if they were not. and i do not have any intent to tell them what to do at all.

Talking to my old mate about such came on because his wife now has her girl 14yo having sex with another 15yo boy and my mate will not stand for such in his house and so his wife has gone renting by herself for 6 months, so the 14yo can have sex what's wrong with a mother who lets a 14yo have sex, my brother had the same issue with his wifes 14yo girl and my brother hated that, not to mention because it looks badly on him as a total fool ! but he had no control over such at all, for you are pointed out as the Monster ! by women and i do not know any of my mates who suports such at all.

So it looks like my mate will loose his house and all because he will not stand for a 14yo girl in his house doing such and giving him a hard time. he said he is not going to change, because it's just not him, or he would be living a Lie and claiming to be another person that he is not ! he said he can not do it.

Sounds like they need Jesus

 

[Arthur81]

Too many wish to condemn men who are by nature "gay", and like to talk about "flesh joining flesh", or as Jesus said -

Mat 19:5 NRSVAue "and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?" "flesh = sarx"

Keep in mind the statement of Paul -

1Co 15:39 NRSVAue "Not all flesh is alike, but there is one flesh for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish." "flesh = sarx"

This gay-bashers like to quote Jude 7 and say "strange flesh" refers to homosexuals.

Jud 1:7 ASV "Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire."

The Greek of "strange flesh" reads: heteros sarx

The 1890 Strong's defines heteros "Of uncertain affinity; (an-, the) other or different:—altered, else, next (day), one, (an-) other, some, strange."

Paul has already told us in 1 Corinthians 15:39 above, that that there are other or different types of flesh. So, how can a man going after another man be another or a different flesh? This is referring to men going after angels as the Revised English Bible translates this passage-

"Remember Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbouring towns; like the angels, they committed fornication and indulged in unnatural lusts; and in eternal fire they paid the penalty, a warning for all." (Jude 1:7 REB)

So, "unnatural lusts" refers to man going after angels. Sort of the reverse of the understanding of Gen. 6:1-4 is about angels going after human women. Jude cites a passage from 1 Enoch.

Back to Romans 1:27, in interpretation you have historical context as well as grammatical. Read it -

From the Greek philosopher Dio Chrysostom (40-110 AD) in The Seventh or Euboean Discourse

Phrasing lifted from text numbered 133 through 152

"In dealing with brothel-keepers and their trade we must certainly betray no weakness as though something were to be said on both sides, but must sternly forbid them...Such men bring individuals together in union without love and intercourse without affection, and all for the sake of filthy lucre...For evils are never wont to remain as they are; they are ever active and advancing to greater wantonness if they meet no compelling check...Indeed, beginning with practices and habits that seem trivial and allowable, it acquires a strength and force that are uncontrollable, and no longer stops at anything...Now at this point we must assuredly remember that this adultery committed with outcasts, so evident in our midst and becoming so brazen and unchecked, is to a very great extent paving the way to hidden and secret assaults upon the chastity of women and boys of good family...The man whose appetite is insatiate in such things, when he finds there is no scarcity, no resistance, in this field, will have contempt for the easy conquest and scorn for a woman's love, as a thing too readily given — in fact, too utterly feminine — and will turn his assault against the male quarters, eager to befoul the youth who will very soon be magistrates and judges and generals, believing that in them he will find a kind of pleasure difficult and hard to procure. His state is like that of men who are addicted to drinking and wine-bibbing, who after long and steady drinking of unmixed wine, often lose their taste for it and create an artificial thirst by the stimulus of sweatings, salted foods, and condiments."

Dio Chrysostom: Discourses 1-20 [Demonax | Hellenic Library Beta]

demonax.info

NOTICE, this Dio Chrysostom lived in the same generation of the Apostle Paul. He wrote of the same thing Paul was describing.

 

[Behold]

Well, if criminal illegal invaders into America are allowed under the 14th amendment to give birth to their breed of offspring while within our borders as a Constitutionally lawful venue that permits them to then stay, and reap alllllllll the rewards for it like, WIC,SNAP,Medicaid, Section 8,etc .... is it a surprise the 14th is again invoked to give Sodomites the right to breed or adopt offspring?

I think you are confused regarding what im teaching.

See, when you were not teaching against Sodomy and "homosexuality", 21 yrs ago, i was teaching against it.

I have 2 Threads here, on the Forum, that Detail the "Homosexual Agenda".. as ive studied this, and written about it.

So, im a long time advocate against "Gay Rights", as being taught as "Ethnic Rights" "ethnic group"..., as Gay Sex Practitioners, both M <>F, are defined as "GAY" based on their HOMO-SEXUAL = Alt Sexual Lifestyle , and that is not an "ethnic Group"...

That is Legalized Sexual Perversion, that is Immoral based on the NT.

If its = "Gay Pride Related"" "LGBTQ"//.. then its Against The NT, its against "natural God given sexuality", and its deeply immoral.

"Gays don't reproduce.. They Recruit"...

And you can quote me. @BlessedPeace

 

[Arthur81]

I think you are confused regarding what im teaching.

See, when you were not teaching against Sodomy and "homosexuality", 21 yrs ago, i was teaching against it.

I have 2 Threads here, on the Forum, that Detail the "Homosexual Agenda".. as ive studied this, and written about it.

So, im a long time advocate against "Gay Rights", as being taught as "Ethnic Rights" "ethnic group"..., as Gay Sex Practitioners, both M <>F, are defined as "GAY" based on their HOMO-SEXUAL = Alt Sexual Lifestyle , and that is not an "ethnic Group"...

That is Legalized Sexual Perversion, that is Immoral based on the NT.

If its = "Gay Pride Related"" "LGBTQ"//.. then its Against The NT, its against "natural God given sexuality", and its deeply immoral.

"Gays don't reproduce.. They Recruit"...

And you can quote me. @BlessedPeace

Since you claim to have studied the origin of homosexuals, I want to see the credible scientific study that shows those of homosexual orientation were recruited! Give us the studies that show homosexual orientation results from being recruited. That is just one of those nasty, hate-filled claims of present day Pharisees.

 

[Arthur81]

From the Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, Third Edition, 2017 by Baker -

There are listed 5 causes of homosexuality in their article. It is not online, so I've attached a picture of those 5 causes. Notice the cause #4

 

[Behold]

Since you claim to have studied the origin of homosexuals,

I never posted that i " studied the origin of homosexuals"

I stated i studied the "Homosexual Agenda". @Arthur81

I'll post the #1 for you, as i have 2 of these Threads.
-
The Homosexual : Manifesto

THE HOMOSEXUAL MANIFESTO---as to Congress in 1987 and implemented by the Entropic U. S. Supreme Court in 2015


“We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.
“Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep. Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men. Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too, and only one man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand the depth and feeling, the mind and body of another man.

“All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men. All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united artistically, philosophically, socially, politically and financially. We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious heterosexual enemy. “If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.

“We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, entimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens. We shall sculpt statues of beautiful young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, yoursquares, your plazas. The museums of the world will be filled only with paintings of graceful, naked lads. “Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable and de rigueur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles. We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through usage of the : Redeeming the Rainbow} 203 devices of wit and ridicule, devices which we are skilled in employing.

“We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as heterosexuals. You will be shocked and frightened when you find that your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators, your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the safe, familiar, bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be. We are everywhere; we have infiltrated your ranks. Be careful when you speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be sitting across the desk from you; we may be sleeping in the same bed with you. “There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings.

Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less.
Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you. We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers. “The family unit-spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy and violence--will be abolished... The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants. “All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men.

We adhere to a cult of beauty, from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination. For us too much is not enough. “The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised of gay poets. One of the major requirements for a position of power in the new society of homoeroticism will be indulgence in the Greek passion. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be automatically barred from a position of influence. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual courts of justice and will become invisible men.

“We shall rewrite history, history filled and debased with your heterosexual lies and distortions. We shall portray the homosexuality of the great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably
fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. “Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks.”
(THAT YOU HAVE NEVER READ THIS GAY CULT CONSTITUTION BEFORE IS PURE EVIL FROM NEWSROOMS AND JOURNALISTS EVERYWHERE.) """"

 

[BlessedPeace]

I think you are confused regarding what im teaching.

See, when you were not teaching against Sodomy and "homosexuality", 21 yrs ago, i was teaching against it.

I have 2 Threads here, on the Forum, that Detail the "Homosexual Agenda".. as ive studied this, and written about it.

So, im a long time advocate against "Gay Rights", as being taught as "Ethnic Rights" "ethnic group"..., as Gay Sex Practitioners, both M <>F, are defined as "GAY" based on their HOMO-SEXUAL = Alt Sexual Lifestyle , and that is not an "ethnic Group"...

That is Legalized Sexual Perversion, that is Immoral based on the NT.

If its = "Gay Pride Related"" "LGBTQ"//.. then its Against The NT, its against "natural God given sexuality", and its deeply immoral.

"Gays don't reproduce.. They Recruit"...

And you can quote me. @BlessedPeace

You don't know what I was "teaching" 21 years ago therefore,don't presume to know.

Lastly, I am not at all confused. Perhaps you don't get the contextual link related to immorality and the perversion of our Constitution, as was described in my post .

Understandable being in Israel and not a citizen of the U.S.