Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

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David in NJ

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SDAs don't teach that.

SDAs don't teach that.

Why do you teach those who love Jesus can break His commandments, the exact opposite of John 14:15?
ATTENTION Truth Seekers and those who love the LORD Jesus Christ

Here is the exposure of SDA error.


Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

As with all false doctrine = they add or take away from God's words
 
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I just wanna know why folks think God put a ceremonial law into the 10 Commandments? Was He not thinking? Are you guys trying to set Him straight, saying that was done away with?

Did He forget to include a holy asterisk
(*) on the 4th Commandment, so we could read the "*this law subject to change" at the bottom of the tables of stone, or even in our Bibles?
 

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Romans 3:20
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
"Under the law" means "under condemnation of the law" as proved by the last three words of this verse.
Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
That's what SDAs believe - so please stop falsely representing our beliefs.
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. - Romans 10:4
"...and have seen the end of the Lord". (Psssst......"end" means "purpose", not "cessation")
#1 “If you love Me, keep My commandments." = JESUS never commanded the saturday sabbath
Hello.....Jesus is the God of the OT and wrote them with His own finger in stone at Sinai. The fact that you don't know this proves you're wholly unfit to teach anybody anything.

"Behold, I will send My messenger (JTB) and he shall prepare the way before Me" (Jesus). - Malachi 3:1 KJV
#2 The Apostles never commanded nor instructed anyone to keep the saturday sabbath under the law.
In Acts 13, Paul gives us a "grace sandwich" - a heaping helping of GRACE between two thick slices of 100% whole grain SABBATH:

[42] ...the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next SABBATH.
[43] ...Paul and Barnabas...persuaded them to continue in the GRACE of God.
[44] And the next SABBATH day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Will you label Paul "antichrist" like you label us?
#3 the LORD Jesus Christ CLEARLY stated and commanded that only HE is the REST of GOD
He's our reward...can we now steal?
He's our faithfulness...can we now sleep with another man's wife?
He's our life giver...can we now start taking life?
He's our truth...can we now start lying?
He's our Sabbath rest...can we now forget the only commandment that begins with "remember"?
#4 The Book of Hebrews CLEARY states that the GOSPEL is the Sabbath Rest of God.
Hebrews 4:9-10 KJV say if we're resting inwardly in Christ, we'll demonstrate that by resting outwardly every Sabbath day from our work "as God did from His".
4 commandments against SDA = God has spoken from His Word of REST as HE gave His BEST
There's no commandment against SDAs, except in the realm of your cognitive fantasy.
There is no judgment upon the day of the week because the LORD Jesus Christ is our REST
What Bible are you reading?

According to James, we're all going to be judged by the "Law of Liberty" to which we're supposed to speak and act. What laws are contained in the "Law of Liberty"? Do not kill, do not commit adultery, etc. aka "the Ten Commandments".
There will be judgment for those who seek to add the 'old wine' to the precious Blood of New Covenant
That's why we don't do that
"by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin."
Correct - the law can't save. The job of the law is to condemn those who break it and teach others to do as they do, and you guys have it racking up serious overtime.
Saturday is NOT the narrow gait by which a person can enter into LIFE - the LORD of the Sabbath is.
Of course it isn't a "narrow gait" - it's a memorial to Creation and a sign between God and the saints that He is the Lord that doth sanctify them.
 

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ATTENTION Truth Seekers and those who love the LORD Jesus Christ Here is the exposure of SDA error.
The "Clear Word" is not a Bible - it's a paraphrase, and not a very good one, if I may say so. Nevertheless - yes, the 4th commandment IS mandatory - just as mandatory as the other 9 commandments...unless you're willing to argue that we may have other gods before Jesus, we may murder, kill, lie, covet, blaspheme, etc.

Are you willing to argue that? No? Then why say it's "SDA error" to say we must keep the Sabbath?
Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

As with all false doctrine = they add or take away from God's words
We don't add to or take away anything, friend.
 

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ATTENTION Truth Seekers and those who love the LORD Jesus Christ

Here is the exposure of SDA error.


Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

As with all false doctrine = they add or take away from God's words
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Lol - CARM.org - headquarters of the "Here come the cults!!! Here come the cults!!!" paranoid delusion

You'll be hard-pressed to find an organization that CARM believes ISN'T a cult, Dave.

I'm telling you—you're going to be sorry later on that you went down this road.

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The "Clear Word" is not a Bible - it's a paraphrase, and not a very good one, if I may say so.
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It's not even a paraphrase—it's a devotional book.
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I just wanna know why folks think God put a ceremonial law into the 10 Commandments? Was He not thinking? Are you guys trying to set Him straight, saying that was done away with?

Did He forget to include a holy asterisk
(*) on the 4th Commandment, so we could read the "*this law subject to change" at the bottom of the tables of stone, or even in our Bibles?

The old covenant was FULFILLED in MESSIAH in every aspect.

The old covenant with it's saturday sabbath rest has been FULFILLED in MESSIAH.

The NEW Covenant has Come and the old covenant is deemed 'obsolete' for righteousness.

MESSIAH, who is the New Covenant, is the Righteousness of God/Sabbath REST

@Cassandra "be found in Him/Christ, not having your own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;"

@Cassandra = Romans 10:4 NIV
For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given.
As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.

@Cassandra = Romans 10:4 KJV
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Exodus 31:12-17 is obey or death = NO work permitted on the old law of rest.

John 3:16-18 is the same = Obey or Death = NO work permitted on the FINISHED Work of REST in Christ

Any day of the week becomes a 'holy day' for those in Christ since Christ is the Salvation and REST we waited for.

Galatians 3:23
But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.
Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
 
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The old covenant was FULFILLED in MESSIAH in every aspect.

The old covenant with it's saturday sabbath rest has been FULFILLED in MESSIAH.

The NEW Covenant has Come and the old covenant is deemed 'obsolete' for righteousness.

MESSIAH, who is the New Covenant, is the Righteousness of God/Sabbath REST

@Cassandra "be found in Him/Christ, not having your own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;"

@Cassandra = Romans 10:4 NIV
For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given.
As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.

@Cassandra = Romans 10:4 KJV
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Exodus 31:12-17 is obey or death = NO work permitted on the old law of rest.

John 3:16-18 is the same = Obey or Death = NO work permitted on the FINISHED Work of REST in Christ

Any day of the week becomes a 'holy day' for those in Christ since Christ is the Salvation and REST we waited for.

Galatians 3:23
But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
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A complete non-answer to the questions asked
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I would like to touch on a topic that will impact us Seventh Day Adventists prophetically more than any other. The issue of separation/union of church and state in the United States.We are currently observing a burgeoning relationship between the church, represented by various Pastors, priests, and lay leaders of the Christian faith in the U.S., and government, represented primarily by those ruling from the White House, particularly the President and vice-President of that nation, Donald Trump and Mike Pence. Of course, not all churches are okay with this arrangement. Many are very opposed to any union whatever between the Christian faith and the civil power, including our own church. Certainly liberally represented among those Christian leaders currently attending White House events, (including Bible studies, prayer breakfasts etc) are those in support of Zionism, the re-establishment of Israel in the Middle East. (Interesting to note that there is a large segment of Jews not in favor). These Christian Zionists firmly believe that the recently established (1948) nation of modern Israel is a prophetic event, the major sign of the second coming of Jesus. Anything less than full political support for Israel in providing arms, and finance, and global support in the U.N., is considered rank heresy by these Christian leaders. This seems to be a very convivial relationship thus far. Israel has never been stronger, the only nuclear armed country in the Middle East, a nation that is far more of a threat to all her neighbours than vice versa, both political parties in the U.S. awash with Jewish money, and a U.S President more than willing to reciprocate evangelical support in the voting booths with political moves on the world stage, such as moving the U.S. Embassy to the Israeli capital, Jerusalem. The promise given by the President in the lead up to the 2016 election seems to be coming to pass. “I will give you power”.

A little over two hundred years ago one of the founding fathers of the United States Benjamin Franklin, said the following...
“When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that it's professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, that it's cause is a bad one”.
Thomas Paine said...“Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but is always the strongly marked feature of all law-religion, or religions established by law”.
I find those two quotes above highly significant particularly in the context of Seventh Day Adventist eschatology (last day/end timetheology). We are a prophetic church. We see prophecy in an almost unique perspective, which offers us a unique view of the identity and characters of last days entities or personalities. The first beast of Revelation 13 for example we hold to be representative of the Papacy. The scripture describes this beast as having the “feet of a bear”. (Vs 2)
This particular descriptive of this composite beast takes us back to Daniel chapter 7 in which is described four beasts representing 4 distinct empires of the old world. These empires from antiquity have passed down characteristics that today are not only an echo to the past, but a revelation of the present. This revelation is of the very 'Antichrist', whose character and practice lies in direct contradistinction to the character of the true Christ. So how does the feet of a bear characterise the Papacy? We understand that the bear represents Media-Persia. Reigning over a vast territory won in battle against Babylon, Media-Persia is not described in great detail in scripture, but what scripture does reveal concerning this empire is highly significant. In Daniel 6 we read a familiar story. Daniel was at the head of a shortlist to be Prime Minister of the entire Media-Persian empire second only to the King. His fellow Princes (there were 3 altogether and Daniel the chief) as well as a coterie of CEOs and mid-management didn't like having Daniel in charge over them. The King wanted 'no damage' in the accounts of the empire. (Dan.6:2) Thus Daniel, having 'an excellent Spirit' and therefore honest, faithful, and without fault' (vs4) was not one to condone corruption. This clearly did not suit the other rulers and overseers, as they wanted to take advantage of their position, and having an honest boss was not on their agenda. So they made up a law, a religious law, by which to trap Daniel and thus cost him his life. ( Note that Revelation 13 also reveals a coming religious law to be enforced by the state power to bring an end to the lives of faithful Christians) As we know however, God had other plans. God was not going to stand by and watch His beloved Daniel pay the ultimate penalty for observing all righteousness. So why is all this so significant, and what does it mean for us today?
Three times in the sixth chapter of Daniel is mentioned a particularly important characteristic that pertains in particular to Media-Persian law. “Now O King, establish the decree, and sign the writing, that it be not changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not”.
“Then they came near, and spake before the king concerning the king’s decree; Hast thou not signed a decree, that every man that shall ask a petition of any God or man within thirty days, save of thee, O king, shall be cast into the den of lions? The king answered and said, The thing is true, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.”
“Then these men assembled unto the king, and said unto the king, Know, O king, that the law of the Medes and Persians is, That no decree nor statute which the king establisheth may be changed.” Daniel 6:8,12,15.
So what is the relationship of the Catholic Church regarding law?
From wiki...There are 1752 canon laws currently binding on the Catholic Church.The canon law of the Catholic Church is the system of laws and legal principles made and enforced by the hierarchical authorities of the Catholic Church to regulate its external organisation and government and to order and direct the activities of Catholics toward the mission of the church. It was the first modern legal system and is the oldest continuously functioning legal system in the West.......The actual subject material of the canons is not just doctrinal or moral in nature, but all encompassing of the human condition.
What we have my friends is one startling mirror image of the Media-Persian empire evident in Catholicism. I do not think I need to go into the nature of “Papal infallibility” or Papal supremacy in order to further accentuate the above point, some of which cannot be changed or altered. The Catholic religion is founded on law. It is not founded on the gospel. It stands on Persian feet. It runs on Persian feet. Those feet are its foundation. A foundation based on law and judicial mandates which if not obeyed were punishable by various penalties which in the dark ages often led to death. Ironically, one of the clearest and most powerful declarations in favour of church/state separation came from the only Catholic President ever elected in America, John F Kennedy.
“I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute – where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote – where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference – and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.”
He added, “I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish – where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source – where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials – and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.”
Wondering if the people who fight against the integral nature of "religious laws" in end times prophecy will apologize to us later? LOL
 
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It's not even a paraphrase—it's a devotional book.
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Our former pastor's wife used to bring one to Wednesday night prayer meeting and I've read some of the passages, some of which are terrible renderings of those in my KJV.
 

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Our former pastor's wife used to bring one to Wednesday night prayer meeting and I've read some of the passages, some of which are terrible renderings of those in my KJV.
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That's because it's not a Bible, PM. I'm totally serious. I have it on Kindle but I never read it. I don't care much for it, actually.
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View attachment 41959<------- You win! The thread can be closed now! View attachment 41960
God Won = when HE sent His Son to carry our "burdens(sins)" to the Cross along with the oc law.

All i did/do is follow the TRUTH where it leads us to = MESISIAH

Others are not satisfied with His Righteousness and attempt to add to the Finished Work of God.

Every false doctrine/teaching seeks to do three things:
a.) Bring into question every word of God
b.) Alter God's words, ever so slightly, in order to substantiate the error they are promoting
c.) replace and/or diminish or ADD to the Finished Work of God

Example: Romans 10:3 NIV
For they do not understand God’s way of making people right with himself.
Refusing to accept God’s way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law.
 

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Refusing to accept God’s way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law.
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So, we're suddenly just liars, and you have read our hearts to see that which you have judged we will not admit to you. Got it, Dave. We're just lying, miserable Sabbatholaters. Thank you for opening our eyes to our hopelessness.
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Refusing to accept God’s way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law.
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So, should I assume that you will now stop "clinging to your own way of getting right with God by trying to" avoid worshipping other Gods, avoid idolizing, avoid taking the LORD's name in vain, avoid dishonoring your parents, avoid murdering people, avoid adultery, avoid stealing, avoid bearing false witness against your neighbor (looks like you've already got that one covered), avoid covetousness, and—last, but not least—

STOP "CLINGING TO YOUR OWN WAY OF GETTING RIGHT WITH GOD BY TRYING TO"
REST IN CHRIST since that is what the 4th commandment of the law now evidently requires?


Do you see how messy this confusing, Babylonian, antinomian stuff gets when you follow it to its logical conclusion, Dave?
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After all the to-ing and fro-ing, it is at least good to know that no-one is arguing with my basic premise, that America is in trouble. And why is that? Because the American churches generally, have abandoned the biblical precept of righteousness by faith, and are, in an increasingly serious degree, adopting politics in an attempt to make America righteous and acceptable to God. In the process of doing so, the American fallen church (fallen because they are in the process of committing spiritual adultery), will persecute other believers for worshiping different. Just like Cain murdered Abel over worship in the beginning, so will there be spiritual brothers at war over worship in the last days.
The remedy for this is to receive and make the righteousness of Christ your own, by receiving Christ, and allowing the righteousness of Christ to be expressed through keeping His commandments.
There will only be 2 disparate groups in the last days. Refer to Revelation 14:12 and Revelation 12:17 describing one group, those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith and testimony of Jesus... The other group don't. The other group are outside the walls. They don't get entrance into God's kingdom. They are disobedient,
KJV Revelation 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Sunday sacredness isn't BAD per se, it is simply not sacred to the one true God. It is God who makes something sacred. It is up to man to keep it that way. Historically man has attempted to make Sunday sacred, first in his worship of the sun, today in his worship of God. But Jesus Himself said, in vain do they worship Me, keeping as doctrine the commandments of men.
What day is sacred?
KJV Genesis 2:2-3
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


Nowhere in scripture is it ever suggested that God has reversed that blessing, that sacredness, that holiness, from the 7th day. As you quoted, not one tittle has passed from the law. Not all is fulfilled. Certainly not the number of those saved. Do not those presently lost need the law by which to convict them of sin? Even Christians need to be reminded of the nature and extent of sin. And the law does that. Some claim to be convicted by the holy Spirit regarding sin. But the spirit can be a counterfeit. The law can't be changed. One cannot be deceived when he reads the ten commandments. And whether a Jewish person or a Christian person or a Muslim or a pagan dishonors or ignores the Sabbath, the 7th day remains sacred.
Throughout the OT God defined, elaborated on, stressed, and made bold through His servants the prophets, the sacredness of His day. And commanded, reminded, cried aloud and pleased for His people to honour that day, in order to please Him and receive the blessings that come from obedience and faithfulness. God did this for 1000s of years. And along come Christians who in their arrogance and rebelliousness, demand and expect that God must repeat Himself in the NT. Well, He did. But those who don't want to obey the truth will never see it.
Nowhere in scripture is it ever suggested that God has reversed that blessing, that sacredness, that holiness, from the 7th day.

God did not "reverse" the 7th day = HE FULFILLED it as it was all about Him from the Beginning

Therefore a New Covenant and a New Law that is only Fulfilled in Christ.

When we obey the LORD Jesus Christ, we fulfill the Law of Christ = no old law remains

All that remains is Christ and His commandments = If you love Me keep My commandments

There is no saturday sabbath commandment from the LORD or the Apostles.

As a matter of FACT, under Christ any day of the week is for gathering in His Name for fellowship and worship.
There no longer remains any commandment to saturday rest in the Gospel.

Colossians 2:16-19
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
 
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Another antichrist statement.

Anyone who would slander the Precious Blood of the LORD of the Sabbath does not know God's Sabbath REST.

Yep, further proof SDA is a cult.

When they say garbage like this they just out themselves as cultists
and damage public relations for their religious organization.

Maybe they need to do what the mormons and JWs do and hire a
public relations director to coach them on how to not sound like cultists funny.gif



I know you, Dave. You're going to be sorry for this later.

Hope that's not some sort of threat of harm for Dave
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Of course, it is!

You took this post from me to Big Troll personally, didn't you?

How can you not see that claiming Adventists believe they are saved by keeping the 4th commandment is about as egregious a straw man argument as you could hope to run into, Dave?

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The only Way to prove you are Saved only by the Righteousness of God thru Jesus Christ is for you to stop gathering on saturday and to gather on another day of the week - take your pick!

But if you really want to demonstrate that your faith is in Christ and Him alone then gather on sunday.

Unless you believe gathering on sunday is sin!
Which, if you do or if your SDA believes it is, then you are no longer submitted to Christ but rather to men and religion.
 

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Lol - CARM.org - headquarters of the "Here come the cults!!! Here come the cults!!!" paranoid delusion

You'll be hard-pressed to find an organization that CARM believes ISN'T a cult, Dave.

I'm telling you—you're going to be sorry later on that you went down this road.

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They are the pit of as we say 'el fuego' to be nice. Talk about having no the love of the truth....
 

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The only Way to prove you are Saved only by the Righteousness of God thru Jesus Christ is for you to stop gathering on saturday and to gather on another day of the week - take your pick!

But if you really want to demonstrate that your faith is in Christ and Him alone then gather on sunday.

Unless you believe gathering on sunday is sin!
Which, if you do or if your SDA believes it is, then you are no longer submitted to Christ but rather to men and religion.
Why dont you try Friday with the Muslims, would you do that instead of Sunday, of course not. Thats why you have to go by Gods Word, not your own ideas or private interpretation...