Is there a higher walk for believers in Christ?

[Behold]

Salvation is a person. His name is Jesus, and he gets the job done even outside mans boxes and formulas.

Absolutely.

God will find a way to lead sinners to Jesus, who have no access to a preacher or to the "Gospel" as we all know it, and have heard it.
He's been doing it for over 2000 yrs.

He'll even save you on your DEATH BED or in a PRISON CELL, and no water baptism is available.
Oh YES..
ABSOLUTELY !

 

[Episkopos]

Blanket statements of accusation against those with whom you disagree. Distasteful and insulting words, what is the intent?

I'm seeing a number of "trigger words", that tend to provoke flesh.

None of this is without meaning, but reflects entirely on you. And you've been saying these things for many years. There is no change, no maturing, only this same dynamic, over and over and over.

Much love!

Provoking the flesh.? You wear the flesh on your sleeve if you react against a sound biblical exhortation.

Are you calling the bible "hate speech"? Do you realize that I'm quoting the bible...and showing how (as you are demonstrating) how people HATE the truth? People just want to be accepted for who they are. Do you want only to be mollycoddled..,.no matter what? The wounds of a friend are better than the compliments you so eagerly want.

I personally have no skin in the game. Stay the way you want. I am speaking for the Lord...and warning those who have ears to hear. If I don't warn people, then I am responsible.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
— Ephesians 4:13

This is the highest walk.

Yes

But this will not happen until the ressurection.

 

[Ritajanice]

We both came to Jesus by Faith.

No, I can’t agree with this Brother...God brought me to believe in the Name of Jesus...then by his mercy and grace gifted me God given faith and I was Born Again at the same time...all biblical.

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit..God given faith manifest itself in our spirit.

 

[Behold]

So little babes 2 years old go to hell if not chosen?

Calvin the Devil, one of them, teaches that God chooses you for Salvation, and you have no free will.
I dont teach that, as that offends the "GIFT of Salvation." which denies the Cross of Christ.
That theology, Calvinism, is a "doctrine of Devils'.
Avoid it.

 

[marks]

The intent is to show that this petty fleshly debating of the doctrines of men is not conducive to a discussion on the "higher walk".... I read his comments as him trying to moderate his post from going astray.

I'd wonder if that were true, why write in such a fashion? I don't see where this sort of writing would accomplish what you suggest.

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So Many Christians sit here on forums such as this and argue doctrinal differences of the teachings of men, Calvin Arminius, condition security vs eternal security ad infinitum.... This shows their Immaturity in Agape Love.... (Ephesians 4:11-14, 1 Corinthians 3:1-6). The Higher walk is exemplified by God's love perfected in us. This is why the confession of the deity of Christ the Spirit Gives us when we are saved, because this example of God dying for us is the supreme example of Love we have, which is why this confession of Jesus as LORD is fundamental to salvation. \

No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. ( 1 John 4:12-16)

Continue reading 1 John 4 To receive this blessing And Romans 8:1-8 to understand the fulness of this in our life (walking in the Spirit)

God Bless.

Amen

But we come to this BECAUSE we are saved

We do not do it to purchase salvation like the OP wants us to believe

 

[Ritajanice]

No, I was pointing to an example from what @Eternally Grateful wrote.

There is a certain training in the mind towards detecting "you" statements. But once you get tuned into that, you can avoid being triggered by them. @Episkopos makes a great many "you" statements, eliciting a great many reactionary posts.

Much love!

I appreciate this marks...you are 100% spot on...Praise God, Brother!

 

[Waiting on him]

we will grow.

God does not fail

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
— 1 Corinthians 13:11-13

I believe Paul here is giving his growth account to becoming a man.

 

[Behold]

No, I can’t agree with this Brother...God brought me to believe in the Name of Jesus...

You can't believe unless you know about it first.

Paul teaches.. "How can they believe unless they have heard"..

"Faith comes by HEARING"..

See, you can't believe in Jesus, if you've never heard of Him, before.

All of us, somehow, hear about Jesus... and we then Believe...or not.

One of the best Christians ive ever known, for the last 33 yrs.......watched "Jesus of Nazareth" the movie, and BELIEVED.

Its not possible to believe in something, no matter what it is, unless you KNOW ABOUT IT, first.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That's his "ministry".

That's why he comes to Forums.

That's His "gift".

The MYSTERY, is why the Mods let Him do it for so many years.

He does that in every forum he goes into..for years.. this is not his first attempt

 

[Ritajanice]

Keep up the good works of having words with us, regarding our behaviour...I appreciate it.

 

[David H.]

I'd wonder if that were true, why write in such a fashion? I don't see where this sort of writing would accomplish what you suggest.

It is frustrating at times to watch this. discussions on the higher walk and unity of the Spirit getting bogged down in doctrines of men.... (Calvin etc.) I am sure there is frustration involved in his comments, but i don't blame him for that. He is trying IMO to get this thread back on topic.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No, I can’t agree with this Brother...God brought me to believe in the Name of Jesus...then by his mercy and grace gifted me God given faith and I was Born Again at the same time...all biblical.

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit..God given faith manifest itself in our spirit.

ie, calvinism

 

[Ritajanice]

You can't believe unless you know about it first.

Exactly..of course I knew all about Jesus.

Paul teaches.. "How can they believe unless they have heard"..

"Faith comes by HEARING"..

See, you can't believe in Jesus, if you've never heard of Him, before.

All of us, somehow, hear about Jesus... and we then Believe.

One of the best Christians ive ever known, for the last 33 yrs.......watched "Jesus of Nazareth" the movie, and BELIEVED.

We must believe in Jesus..that’s not God given faith...

Faith is a manifestation of the Spirit...God given faith manifest itself in our heart...that’s the seed of God.his Living word.

Hence we are Born Again of imperishable seed?

 

[Ritajanice]

ie, calvinism

Then please prove it by using scripture...thanks.

Gods Living word...I was Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed...which liveth and abideth forever in our heart/ spirit.

 

[David H.]

Yes

But this will not happen until the ressurection.

Look in Acts, it is when the church is at "one accord" that the world is turned upside down by the Power of the Spirit. its not something "future", but here and now.... God bless

 

[Eternally Grateful]

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
— 1 Corinthians 13:11-13

I believe Paul here is giving his growth account to becoming a man.

The words, for now we see darkly, but then FACE TO FACE line up with what he said, that THEN (when we see him face to face, He will know even as he is known

This will happen at the resurrection when we see him face to face.

 

[marks]

Are you calling the bible "hate speech"?

No. I've not even used those words, hate speech. You will not prove your point by falsely attributing language to me that I've not used, nor have I spoken the concept.

This is an ad hominem deflection.

Do you realize that I'm quoting the bible...

Is that so? I don't see that. Perhaps you can edit your post to show your Bible quotes? But then, you were not quoting the Bible. I expect you will claim that I just can't see it, but you will not clarify your Scripture quotes, because you wrote your own mind.

and showing how (as you are demonstrating) how people HATE the truth?

I am demonstrating that I hate truth?

More ad hominem deflection.

People just want to be accepted for who they are.

Is that so? Is that true for you?

Do you want only to be mollycoddled..,.no matter what?

Also true for you?

Or more ad hominem deflection?

The wounds of a friend are better than the compliments you so eagerly want.

You have no idea about me, and you do better to not presume.

I personally have no skin in the game.

That's not how I see it. You seem to me to be someone who is extremely personally invested in being perceived as someone who is "spiritually higher" than all those around you.

Stay the way you want. I am speaking for the Lord...and warning those who have ears to hear. If I don't warn people, then I am responsible.

As you will.

"Well then just stay that way!", hm, that reminds me of childhood . . .

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Then please prove it by using scripture...thanks.

lol. what Prove you are following calvin beliefs?

Just read your posts.. I do not need to use scripture.. Calvin distorts scripture.. Like @Behold has been trying to tell you