Is it possible not to sin anymore?

[Truthnightmare]

Ecclesiastes 7:20
For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.

How hard is this? The pride and arrogance in this thread is disgusting!

Who thinks that when they become saved they can possibly sin no more? I tell this person as soon as you tell yourself you sin no more the truth is not in you!

John 1:8-10 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

 

[Truthnightmare]

I have read the Bible many times over, every person mentioned in the Bible from the wisest man Solomon, to a head strong disciple like Peter… Or even Paul a scholar of scholars… all these men sinned and never achieved perfection… What in Gods green earth makes anyone on this forum believe they are stronger, smarter, wiser then these three men? They couldn’t achieve perfection, and neither can I or any of you….

 

[Ritajanice]

I have read the Bible many times over, every person mentioned in the Bible from the wisest man Solomon, to a head strong disciple like Peter… Or even Paul a scholar of scholars… all these men sinned and never achieved perfection… What in Gods green earth makes anyone on this forum believe they are stronger, smarter, wiser then these three men? They couldn’t achieve perfection, and neither can I or any of you….

We certainly haven’t reached perfection and we never will...not until we are with God...

A Born Again can’t sin as they have been Born Again of Gods seed...we have that new nature in Christ.

Therefore we aren’t in the flesh were in the Spirit.....it’s our flesh thoughts that need renewing..our flesh nature is dead...the old man.....it’s taken years to understand that... @Behold teaches on this subject...he helped me with it, yet, God is the only one who could bring it to my understanding...which is all in his timing...he reveals his truth to us via the Holy Spirit.

We aren’t being arrogant Brother....we just post the word of God...in fact it’s the Holy Spirit in me bringing Gods truth to the forefront for those who are Born Again of Gods seed.

It’s the Holy Spirit who brings us into all truth...we can’t do or know nothing without him.

Being Born Again of Gods seed is Spirit gives birth to spirit....just like flesh ( human flesh) gives birth to flesh...we were born into sin.....

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◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.

 

[Truthnightmare]

We certainly haven’t reached perfection and we never will...not until we are with God...

A Born Again can’t sin as they have been Born Again of Gods seed...we have that new nature in Christ.

Therefore we aren’t in the flesh were in the Spirit.....it’s our flesh thoughts that need renewing..our flesh nature is dead...the old man.

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◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.

The scripture you posted simply says, “those who are born again try not to sin”

Strong's	Greek	English	Morphology
3956 [e]	Πᾶς Pas	Anyone	Adj-NMS
3588 [e]	ὁ ho	-	Art-NMS
1080 [e]	γεγεννημένος gegennēmenos	having been born	V-RPM/P-NMS
1537 [e]	ἐκ ek	of	Prep
3588 [e]	τοῦ tou	-	Art-GMS
2316 [e]	Θεοῦ Theou	God,	N-GMS
266 [e]	ἁμαρτίαν hamartian	sin	N-AFS
3756 [e]	οὐ ou	not	Adv
4160 [e]	ποιεῖ, poiei	practices,	V-PIA-3S
3754 [e]	ὅτι hoti	because	Conj
4690 [e]	σπέρμα sperma	seed	N-NNS
846 [e]	αὐτοῦ autou	of Him	PPro-GM3S
1722 [e]	ἐν en	in	Prep
846 [e]	αὐτῷ autō	him	PPro-DM3S
3306 [e]	μένει· menei	abides,	V-PIA-3S
2532 [e]	καὶ kai	and	Conj
3756 [e]	οὐ ou	not	Adv
1410 [e]	δύναται dynatai	he is able	V-PIM/P-3S
264 [e]	ἁμαρτάνειν, hamartanein	to continue sinning,	V-PNA
3754 [e]	ὅτι hoti	because	Conj
1537 [e]	ἐκ ek	of	Prep
3588 [e]	τοῦ tou	-	Art-GMS
2316 [e]	Θεοῦ Theou	God	N-GMS
1080 [e]	γεγέννηται. gegennētai	he has been born.	V-RIM/P-3S

The wages of sin is death… When you stop sinning you can defeat death. You can’t defeat death, you’re just a filthy rag depending on the one who did defeat death. The idea that after one is saved they can obtain perfection is ridiculous.

The people that walked with Christ couldn’t stop sinning, and now we have Bible forum members who have never cast out a demon claiming such power… unreal.

 

[Ritajanice]

The scripture you posted simply says, “those who are born again try not to sin”

Strong's	Greek	English	Morphology
3956 [e]	Πᾶς Pas	Anyone	Adj-NMS
3588 [e]	ὁ ho	-	Art-NMS
1080 [e]	γεγεννημένος gegennēmenos	having been born	V-RPM/P-NMS
1537 [e]	ἐκ ek	of	Prep
3588 [e]	τοῦ tou	-	Art-GMS
2316 [e]	Θεοῦ Theou	God,	N-GMS
266 [e]	ἁμαρτίαν hamartian	sin	N-AFS
3756 [e]	οὐ ou	not	Adv
4160 [e]	ποιεῖ, poiei	practices,	V-PIA-3S
3754 [e]	ὅτι hoti	because	Conj
4690 [e]	σπέρμα sperma	seed	N-NNS
846 [e]	αὐτοῦ autou	of Him	PPro-GM3S
1722 [e]	ἐν en	in	Prep
846 [e]	αὐτῷ autō	him	PPro-DM3S
3306 [e]	μένει· menei	abides,	V-PIA-3S
2532 [e]	καὶ kai	and	Conj
3756 [e]	οὐ ou	not	Adv
1410 [e]	δύναται dynatai	he is able	V-PIM/P-3S
264 [e]	ἁμαρτάνειν, hamartanein	to continue sinning,	V-PNA
3754 [e]	ὅτι hoti	because	Conj
1537 [e]	ἐκ ek	of	Prep
3588 [e]	τοῦ tou	-	Art-GMS
2316 [e]	Θεοῦ Theou	God	N-GMS
1080 [e]	γεγέννηται. gegennētai	he has been born.	V-RIM/P-3S

The wages of sin is death… When you stop sinning you can defeat death. You can’t defeat death, you’re just a filthy rag depending on the one who did defeat death. The idea that after one is saved they can obtain perfection is ridiculous.

The people that walked with Christ couldn’t stop sinning, and now we have Bible forum members who have never cast out a demon claiming such power… unreal.

A Born Again does not continue to sin as God word says...because we have been Born Again of Gods seed.

When we become Born Again we do not continue to sin...because we have been Born of Gods seed.

A Born Again learns to walk in the Spirit, we are in Gods Kingdom.....our minds are being renewed...and our new nature is in Christ...


All our sins are forgiven when we become Born Again...we are in right standing with God....we have passed from death into God’s light......we aren’t in the flesh were in the Spirit..
John 5:24. 24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life

◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God

 

[quietthinker]

Now, I need all that in four languages...or was that sandwiches? Maybe multiple degrees in language studies?
Are his sheep hard of hearing.....or is it eye salve which is warranted?

These things are basic and simple to understand.....what gives?

 

[Truthnightmare]

A Born Again does not continue to sin as God word says...because we have been Born Again of Gods seed.

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◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God

Paul was born again… and Paul continued to sin. Jesus actually blinded Paul and converted him. Did God Blind you? Are you a Jew from
The tribe of Benjamin? Do you speak Greek and Hebrew? Did you study under Gamaliel?

But somehow you are a more powerful Christian then Paul…. Here’s a challenge bud… post a picture of yourself, surely a person with no sin will exhibit a supernatural (spirit) nature… waiting on the picture.

 

[Ritajanice]

Paul was born again… and Paul continued to sin. Jesus actually blinded Paul and converted him. Did God Blind you? Are you a Jew from
The tribe of Benjamin? Do you speak Greek and Hebrew? Did you study under Gamaliel?

But somehow you are a more powerful Christian then Paul…. Here’s a challenge bud… post a picture of yourself, surely a person with no sin will exhibit a supernatural (spirit) nature… waiting on the picture.

Sorry...no, no one is saying we are more powerful than anyone....we are saying we are Born Again and don’t continue to sin, because we have been Born Again of Gods seed.

Did you read Gods scripture to his Born Again children?

Are you denying that God is saying that a Born Again does not continue to sin...it sounds that way?

Born Again of imperishable seed....what do you think that means?

We are also not under the law we are under Grace....

1 Peter 1:23​

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King James Version​

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23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Sorry...no, no one is saying we are more powerful than anyone....we are saying we are Born Again and don’t continue to sin, because we have been Born Again of Gods seed.

Did you read Gods scripture to his Born Again children?

Are you denying that God is saying that a Born Again does not continue to sin...it sounds that way?

Born Again of imperishable seed....what do you think that means?

We are also not under the law we are under Grace....

If you say you sin not.. the truth is not in you.

We have 2 very different understandings of what is being presented.

AGAIN: Greek word #509 anothen (an'-o-then);from 507; from above; by analogy, from the first; by implication, anew: KJV-- from above, again, from the beginning (very first), the top.

 

[Ritajanice]

If you say you sin not.. the truth is not in you.

We have 2 very different understandings of what is being presented.

AGAIN: Greek word #509 anothen (an'-o-then);from 507; from above; by analogy, from the first; by implication, anew: KJV-- from above, again, from the beginning (very first), the top.

Listen, I have posted Gods word to his Born Again children...you obviously aren’t receiving it..

Now we can argue until the cows come home.....

So, I guess we best agree to disagree.....

When you can understand what being Born Again of imperishable seed means. we then may well have a deep and meaningful discussion....on that a Born Again does not continue to sin because they have been Born of God seed.

I stand on the Living word of God....a Born Again does NOT continue to SIN, because they have been Born of Gods seed......that is the Living word of God.

Which a Born Again Child Of God....can NEVER DENY.....we would sooner die..than deny Gods Living word, that he has spoken to our hearts....we have been Born Again of imperishable seed? and we don’t continue to sin....we are free from Sin and we are in right standing with God.

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◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God

 

[Taken]

What else are you hiding besides your number?

That which is my business and not your business.

When was the last time you confessed your sins?

When…

(According to) 1 John 19
I confessed my sins, and he was faithful and just to forgive my sins and to cleanse me from all unrighteousness.

 

[Taken]

When did you do the above?

Decades ago.

 

[Taken]

Ecclesiastes 7:20
For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.

How hard is this? The pride and arrogance in this thread is disgusting!

Who thinks that when they become saved they can possibly sin no more? I tell this person as soon as you tell yourself you sin no more the truth is not in you!

John 1:8-10 If we saywe have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

“IF” establishes a condition.
“HAVE” establishes a condition.
“SAYING” establishes agreement with the conditions.

WHO has SAID they “HAVE” no sin?
No one.

Every human man “IS naturally born IN SIN”…
Every human man “COMMITS” SIN…

WHO has SAID they were NOT naturally born IN SIN?

WHO has SAID they have NOT committed SIN?

Because THAT is a man who SAYS, they “HAVE” no sin.

“IF” you pay attention, to WHAT IS BEING SAID …

You should be hearing men SAYING , they Confessed their SINS to the Lord God, and the Lord God FORGAVE their sins.

How can the Lord God FORGIVE a mans SINS, “IF” the man says he HAS no SIN?

ALL human men …….. HAVE SIN.
Some human men….By, Through, Of Gods Authority and Power; HAVE…. Forgiven, Covered, Unseen, Forgotten SIN.
AND;
The SAME men; By, Through, Of Gods Authority, Word, Power…. SIN NO MORE.

Do not MISTAKE acceptance of Gods TRUTH for pride or arrogance.

Do not be Disgusted by your lack of understanding another mans acceptance of Gods Word, Truth, Works in an other man.

A Believer, CAN, continue to SIN, and CAN repeatedly Ask for Forgiveness. AND CAN, fall from Faith and Stop Believing.

A BORN AGAIN BELIEVER…HAS already GIVEN His BODY unto DEATH “to and for” the Lord God….
How does a body accounted “BY GOD” as DEAD…continue to SIN?
How does/CAN a “natural spirit” born of a mans imperishable seed…then such spirit, “BORN AGAIN of Gods imperishable SEED”… Commit SIN ?

It CAN’T. While the Lord God IS MIGHTILY SUPREME in POWER….By Gods OWN Authority, There ARE “SOME” things God CAN NOT DO.

For example….
God can NOT Lie.
God can NOT “reproduce” something “without a beginning”.
God can NOT “deny, reject, stand Against Himself”…

God CAN NOT “RE-BRITH” a mans spirit, “WITH” Gods SEED, that such “reborn spirit”, can EVER Stand Against God.

A mans Born Again spirit, CAN NEVER STAND AGAINST God.
With pride, arrogance CONFIDENCE a Born Again man can say, his SINS ARE forgiven and he Sins NO MORE.

That IS SAYING, “he Has Forgiven Sins”.
That IS NOT SAYING, “he Has no Sin”.

 

[TonyChanYT]

A Born Again can’t sin as they have been Born Again of Gods seed...we have that new nature in Christ.

When was the last time you sinned?

 

[Taken]

I have read the Bible many times over, every person mentioned in the Bible from the wisest man Solomon, to a head strong disciple like Peter… Or even Paul a scholar of scholars… all these men sinned and never achieved perfection… What in Gods green earth makes anyone on this forum believe they are stronger, smarter, wiser then these three men? They couldn’t achieve perfection, and neither can I or any of you….

Accusing an other of claiming Perfection, has no Merit, if the other has NOT claimed Perfection.

IOW…quote a person actually “CLAIMING” perfection….WHO is such person?

 

[Ritajanice]

When was the last time you sinned?

Years and years ago Tony....

A Born Again cannot go on sinning as they have been Born Again of Gods seed.

The Holy Spirit cannot in dwell a sinner ,Tony....they have been Born Again of imperishable seed....

Spirit gives birth to spirit...

 

[TonyChanYT]

Decades ago.

Let proposition P1 = I (codenamed Taken from christianityboard.com/) have not sinned for decades as of 2024.1.5.
P2 = P1 is not true.

Between 0 and 10, how much weight do you put on each of the above propositions? The stronger your belief in a proposition, the higher the weight.

 

[TonyChanYT]

Years and years ago Tony....

When was the last time you lied?

A Born Again cannot go on sinning as they have been Born Again of Gods seed.

Right.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Accusing an other of claiming Perfection, has no Merit, if the other has NOT claimed Perfection.

IOW…quote a person actually “CLAIMING” perfection….WHO is such person?

No sin equals perfection. Now go back and apply this appropriately.

 

[Ritajanice]

When was the last time you lied?

Hello again Tony....see my post above.

Right.

Thank you Tony.