Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

[Arthur81]

There are ten commandments that the children of Adam are to live by. The seventh condemns any sexual activity or intimate co-habitation outside of the union between two committed persons, one each of male AND female anatomy.

No high-brow, sophisticated "exegesis" is required to understand that, which is for good cause because, as Abraham Lincoln said: "God must have really loved the common people because He has made so many of them."

And while "enlightened" people amuse themselves spinning a hypothetical web of confusion the human race, consisting of actual, individual precious souls for whom Christ died, is going to rack and ruin both in physical and mental health.

Stories of detached or nameless individuals who are marginalized by society may make those who sympathize with their suffering feel better while they do nothing else to solve real problems beyond keeping their sofa cushions warm, but Christ's lost sheep perish nonetheless for their sickly sentimentalism.

The wages of sin is death, and the perverse type is in pandemic mode.

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“You shall not commit adultery." (Exod 20:14 RSV)

Strong's "H5003 נָאַף na'aph (naw-af') v. 1. to commit adultery. 2. (figuratively) to apostatize."

BDB Definition:
"1) to commit adultery
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to commit adultery
1a1a) usually of man
1a1a1) always with wife of another
1a1b) adultery (of women) (participle)
1a2) idolatrous worship (figuratively)
1b) (Piel)
1b1) to commit adultery
1b1a) of man
1b1b) adultery (of women) (participle)
1b2) idolatrous worship (figuratively)"

Now what does the English word "adultery" in the translations mean?

Merriam-Webster
"adultery noun voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner"

There is the Merriam-Webster definition of "adultery", the Strong's definition, and then the highly respected Brown-Driver Briggs Hebrew Dictionary but nothing about adultery having anything whatsoever to do with male with male.

You want to say adultery, which pertains to marriage, also applies to homosexuality; but, then you want to whine when the LGBTQ got marriage, after you have already applied a marriage related word to them. If adultery applies to gays they must marry to be guilty of that.

Most here do not know or use exegesis and it is why they expose their ignorance on that about which they dogmatize. By the way, "exegesis" is reading out of a passage rather than reading into the passage a meaning out of your own mind. You are reading into the text, NOT reading out of it.

International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
"Interpretation... Is a generic term and may refer to any work of literature. Referred specifically to the sacred Scriptures, the science of interpretation is generally known as hermeneutics, while the practical application of the principles of this science is exegesis. In nearly all cases, interpretation has in mind the thoughts of another, and then, further, these thoughts expressed in another language than that of the interpreter. In this sense it is used in Biblical research. A person has interpreted the thoughts of another when he has in his own mind a correct reproduction or photograph of the thought as it was conceived in the mind of the original writer or speaker. It is accordingly a purely reproductive process, involving no originality of thought on the part of the interpreter. If the latter adds anything of his own it is eisegesis and not exegesis. The moment the Bible student has in his own mind what was in the mind of the author or authors of the Biblical books when these were written, he has interpreted the thought of the Scriptures." *The underline and bold are mine

Interpretation in the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia.

Information on Interpretation from the classic Bible reference encyclopedia.

www.internationalstandardbible.com

I take God's word seriously, and that is why I have three textbooks on hermeneutics on my bookshelf, and they DON'T gather dust! I will stand before Christ on the last day, and I want to know I did my best to learn the truth of God.

 

[BarneyFife]

They were all over the forum this AM. I heard a count of 63.

I award the best response to @Truthnightmare See post #21 at link below.

God Moved His Israel to The West

In the Name of the Lord Yeshua you are delivered unto Satan. The Blood of the Lord Yeshua against you! Are those words suppose to scare me? You are in violation of the word of God! You are not allowed to bless God and at the same time curse me. 8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an...

www.christianityboard.com

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I tend to ignore such nonsense. I do report them, though, since it tends to disturb many folks and clutter up the neighborhood.

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[BarneyFife]

“You shall not commit adultery." (Exod 20:14 RSV)

Strong's "H5003 נָאַף na'aph (naw-af') v. 1. to commit adultery. 2. (figuratively) to apostatize."

BDB Definition:
"1) to commit adultery
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to commit adultery
1a1a) usually of man
1a1a1) always with wife of another
1a1b) adultery (of women) (participle)
1a2) idolatrous worship (figuratively)
1b) (Piel)
1b1) to commit adultery
1b1a) of man
1b1b) adultery (of women) (participle)
1b2) idolatrous worship (figuratively)"

Now what does the English word "adultery" in the translations mean?

Merriam-Webster
"adultery noun voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner"

There is the Merriam-Webster definition of "adultery", the Strong's definition, and then the highly respected Brown-Driver Briggs Hebrew Dictionary but nothing about adultery having anything whatsoever to do with male with male.

You want to say adultery, which pertains to marriage, also applies to homosexuality; but, then you want to whine when the LGBTQ got marriage, after you have already applied a marriage related word to them. If adultery applies to gays they must marry to be guilty of that.

Most here do not know or use exegesis and it is why they expose their ignorance on that about which they dogmatize. By the way, "exegesis" is reading out of a passage rather than reading into the passage a meaning out of your own mind. You are reading into the text, NOT reading out of it.

International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
"Interpretation... Is a generic term and may refer to any work of literature. Referred specifically to the sacred Scriptures, the science of interpretation is generally known as hermeneutics, while the practical application of the principles of this science is exegesis. In nearly all cases, interpretation has in mind the thoughts of another, and then, further, these thoughts expressed in another language than that of the interpreter. In this sense it is used in Biblical research. A person has interpreted the thoughts of another when he has in his own mind a correct reproduction or photograph of the thought as it was conceived in the mind of the original writer or speaker. It is accordingly a purely reproductive process, involving no originality of thought on the part of the interpreter. If the latter adds anything of his own it is eisegesis and not exegesis. The moment the Bible student has in his own mind what was in the mind of the author or authors of the Biblical books when these were written, he has interpreted the thought of the Scriptures." *The underline and bold are mine

Interpretation in the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia.

Information on Interpretation from the classic Bible reference encyclopedia.

www.internationalstandardbible.com

I take God's word seriously, and that is why I have three textbooks on hermeneutics on my bookshelf, and they DON'T gather dust! I will stand before Christ on the last day, and I want to know I did my best to learn the truth of God.

Sophistry

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[Arthur81]

Sophistry

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"Barney Fife", to those old enough to remember that TV Mayberry series, that name is quite fitting.

 

[Arthur81]

When a legitimate critique of my post, that shows basic hermeneutical knowledge is posted, I will address it. I may learn from it. I've learned a critical, major point from an intelligent online post in recent months. But it is a waste of time to reply to sarcasm and nonsensical reasoning.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

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Special Attention to @St. SteVen

#1. God determined that His 'Good' Creation is the Dictionary for His Children to find the definition(s) of sin.

Your quoting of Matt 19:8-9 underscores this greatly.

AND, if we BEGIN with the Dictionary Lesson from the LORD in Matt 19:4-6 we SEE exactly THAT!!!

"And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”"

Welcome back, I've missed your thoughts on correct scripture interpretation

 

[BarneyFife]

"Barney Fife", to those old enough to remember that TV Mayberry series, that name is quite fitting.

Is ad hominem part of the new Hermeneutics curriculum?

If you're so serious about God's Word why do you use so much extra-biblical junk to interpret it? Do you really think Moses or the Spirit that inspired him was subordinate to Webster, Thayer, and Strong?

Say something devoid of textual critic elitism, if you dare.

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[David in NJ]

Welcome back, I've missed your thoughts on correct scripture interpretation

Thank You for the encouragement = i was beginning to think that His gifting in me was being wasted on here.

LOL = @BarneyFife gave me a 'heart' on my post 1,554 where i said i was away for two months = Was he happy about that?

 

[David in NJ]

Is ad hominem part of the new Hermeneutics curriculum?

If you're so serious about God's Word why do you use so much extra-biblical junk to interpret it? Do you really think Moses or the Spirit that inspired him was subordinate to Webster, Thayer, and Strong?

Say something devoid of textual critic elitism, if you dare.

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Barney, you have me cracking up = Thank You

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Thank You for the encouragement = i was beginning to think that His gifting in me was being wasted on here.

LOL = @BarneyFife gave me a 'heart' on my post 1,554 where i said i was away for two months = Was he happy about that?

Only he can answer that !

I however always receive your thoughts with joy.

The exposition of the truth is never wasted, for he has said his word will not return void when it is cast forth !

Please carry on forward and never stop telling it on every mountain of lies of satan and his children!

 

[David in NJ]

Only he can answer that !

I however always receive your thoughts with joy.

The exposition of the truth is never wasted, for he has said his word will not return void when it is cast forth !

Please carry on forward and never stop telling it on every mountain of lies of satan and his children!

i trully needed to hear this = BIG THANK YOU

 

[BarneyFife]

LOL = @BarneyFife gave me a 'heart' on my post 1,554 where i said i was away for two months = Was he happy about that?

Lol - only if you REALLY needed the rest!

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[BarneyFife]

Barney, you have me cracking up = Thank You

It's the least I could do. ;)

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[TheOneHeLoves]

it amazing me how people will go on and on but the fact is: yes, Sex outside of marriage btwn a male and woman is SIN. nothing can change that TRUTH

 

[Arthur81]

it amazing me how people will go on and on but the fact is: yes, Sex outside of marriage btwn a male and woman is SIN. nothing can change that TRUTH

Can you give a verse or passage that states that sex outside of marriage of man and woman is sin? Or, is that teaching a theological construction, which involves the conclusion of fallible men.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

Can you give a verse or passage that states that sex outside of marriage of man and woman is sin? Or, is that teaching a theological construction, which involves the conclusion of fallible men.

I could be you won't receive it without the Holy Spirit. Jesus spoke truth to the Pharisee's and they did not want to receive it. Same with you so I won't waste me time. Your eyes are blinded and heart is hardened. You can't know Him and deny His teaching.

 

[St. SteVen]

I could be you won't receive it without the Holy Spirit. Jesus spoke truth to the Pharisee's and they did not want to receive it. Same with you so I won't waste me time. Your eyes are blinded and heart is hardened. You can't know Him and deny His teaching.

HEY!
That was uncalled for. If you can't answer the legitimate question just admit it.

/ @Arthur81

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

HEY!
That was uncalled for. If you can't answer the legitimate question just admit it.

/ @Arthur81

lol...read the entire Bible for yourself ....

 

[David in NJ]

HEY!
That was uncalled for. If you can't answer the legitimate question just admit it.

/ @Arthur81

Just a quick note my Brother St. Stephen,
@Arthur81 has been shown very clear and precise scripture that governs this topic but he has not received it.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless, the SOLID foundation of God stands unmoveable and has this SEAL:
"the LORD knows those who are His" and “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

 

[Arthur81]

Just a quick note my Brother St. Stephen,
@Arthur81 has been shown very clear and precise scripture that governs this topic but he has not received it.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless, the SOLID foundation of God stands unmoveable and has this SEAL:
"the LORD knows those who are His" and “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

David, where is that "very clear and precise scripture" that states any sex outside of marriage of man with woman, is sin. You made the claim, now prove it. The best you can do is cobble together verses to make a theological construction, based on your fallible, human reasoning. That is the subject upon which I made comment.