WWJD with LGBTQ?
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Eternally Grateful
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Romans 5:20
Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,
Romans 7:7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law.
That doesn't really answer my question.
What do you make of this?
Romans 3:21 NIV
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known,
to which the Law and the Prophets testify.
Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things
- What's the difference between the law and the Law? (capital L) - What's the difference between the law and God's law? - What's the difference between the law, God's law, and Christ's law? The law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law; four different things. Agree, or disagree? Points...
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Eternally Grateful
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You can’t cut verses out of a passage, you have to post in context.That doesn't really answer my question.
What do you make of this?
Romans 3:21 NIV
But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known,
to which the Law and the Prophets testify.
Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things
- What's the difference between the law and the Law? (capital L) - What's the difference between the law and God's law? - What's the difference between the law, God's law, and Christ's law? The law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law; four different things. Agree, or disagree? Points...
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19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God Being justified freely by Grace through the redemption in Christ.
Notice, The law is to shut every mouth, that the WHOLE WORLD is guilty. For this reason. By the law NO ONE WILL BE JUSTIFIED
But now the righteousness APART FROM THE LAW is revealed. The righteousness which comes by faith.
Since the law condemns everyone. We have the ability to be justified by faith
their is that person faith word again. If you do not have faith, You will not be justified.
Says who?
I post the essence of the point I am trying to make.
Unlike you, I always give the reference and the translation so you can check out the context,
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So we are left with faith. Of what use is the law?
And what of the Spirit? What do you know about that?
Have you had the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?
Do you speak in tongues and prophesy?
Or are you a Cessationist?
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@Eternally Grateful
The Spirit will guide you into truth. The truth you have yet to know. IMHO
John 16:13 NIV
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth.
He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
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Eternally Grateful
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sorry. We do not cut verses out and make them fit our belief system.
In fact. The origional s were not even made in verse form. That was added by man
Eternally Grateful
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Lol
So you can‘t respond to what Paul said.
i think we need to end. You obvious have no idea what the gospel is. Your pro LGBQ and you think we can reject Christ and get to heaven.
I cannot deal with that.. I will pray for you
I could.
But since you don't know what the law is, you wouldn't understand me.
What's the difference between "the law, the Law, God's law, and Christ's law?" (4 things)
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Thought I had already answered that question recently...? The law is part of God's word and scripture itself tells us that it is profitable for a number of things. For instruction in righteousness. And for reproof, for correction, for rebuke. We are to bring our thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ...the Word. The washing of the water of the word. The entrance of the word gives light. We are to desire the sincere milk of the word, in order that we might walk according to it, and teach others to. God's laws are part of His word, it is truth. And we are to speak the truth in love, and exhort one another to obey the word/Christ.Thanks. That helps.
So, what does it mean to use the law lawfully? (properly)
It also says the law is not made for the righteous, but for the lawless.
Does that mean it is for you, or not for you?
Are you lawless, or righteous?
Furthermore, what do mean by "the law"? How do you define the term?
Have you seen my topic on the subject?
Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things
- What's the difference between the law and the Law? (capital L) - What's the difference between the law and God's law? - What's the difference between the law, God's law, and Christ's law? The law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law; four different things. Agree, or disagree? Points...
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Do you keep a seventh day Sabbath? Do you wear tassels? (according to the law)
Do you follow the dietary restrictions? Guidelines for clothing?
Double bacon cheeseburgers and shellfish are out of the question.
As are mixed fabrics.
Are you really under the law that God gave to the Israelites alone through Moses?
Galatians 3:23-25 NIV
Before the coming of this faith,[a] we were held in custody under the law,
locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed.
24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.
25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
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Oh sure, but just don't ignore all the rest of the new testament scriptures while you're at it. Whole counsel of God. Ignore all the rest of God's inspired word to your peril and everyone you lead astray.
Did I lead you astray by quoting this?
Galatians 3:23-25 NIV
Before the coming of this faith,[a] we were held in custody under the law,
locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed.
24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.
25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
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I wouldn't doubt there is a lot that needs re-examining. However don't throw the baby out with the bathwater which is what you are doing. I know there is a tendency toward self-righteousness in the church, which needs correcting, but did you know that self righteousness is like a pendulum that swings in both directions? And it blinds one to the truth. I've come across believers in the last twenty plus years who actually are self-righteously and pro-actively accepting of sins in the church...they are proud of themselves for being so tolerant exactly like the passage that Paul wrote about the man who was having his father's wife and those in the church who were proud of themselves for tolerating it. Self-righteousness, yes, examine that.
The ordinances were nailed to the cross.....but not the spirit of the Law. Which says to sin not. And we may read and be instructed out of the Law as to what constitutes sin. Of which sexual sins are quite prominent.
Only if you or anyone were using it to justify tolerating grievous sins in the camp.
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