Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?
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Hobie
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In that line of thinking, the Nazis should have been allowed go on, and the Jews wiped out. Evil will never stop till Christ comes and the wicked are destroyed..
Blessings and thank you for your concern sister. :). It's been a busy and stressful time, my daughter got married in the next month after Dad passed away, and I'm having some health problems on top of it all....tinnitus getting worse, as well as probable diverticulitis (first appt with specialist coming up end of the week to start looking into whatever is going on), and I don't often sleep that great as well. Oh the joys of aging...well I can't complain, I had a good run health wise for my whole life up until recent times. (But if I could choose one thing for God to heal right now, it would be the tinnitus!)My dear sister, @Lizbeth
How good to see you. I was not more than fifteen minutes ago wondering if all was ok with you since your father's passing. Not having seen you lately had me wondering if all was well.
Be blessed and encouraged in him
Will be praying.
I too have the dratted "ringing "in the ears, have had for about 15 yrs. It's very annoying and distracting. I'm praying the last trump will be so loud as to blow out my ears.
Congrats on your daughter's Wedding. Soon their will be those beautiful grands to love and spoil.
Yes when this body starts falling apart, seems it's one thing after another. I'd love to be 30 again .....lol
Wrangler
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Asking HOW is a distraction. The result of Christ's return is explicit; death to the enemies of Israel.
Not even a good attempt at distraction.
BarneyFife
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I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I wonder if it was the will of God for Christ to be taken forcibly to the Sanhedrin. :)
Matthew 26:53 - The Betrayal of Jesus
Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels?
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Ronald Nolette
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Hate to let you in on a not so secret secret- God has already started restoring Israel to their land which always has belonged to them. God never revoked the land of Israel from the people of Israel. He has scattered them (for now) but regather them in their land-not a land that belongs to someone else.
They were forced out by their fellow Muslims! They told them to flee so that the five armies prepared to attack could wipe out every jew! Many Palestinians live in peace in Israel and are not forced out. the only people forced out of homes are those families who have Hamas members or intifada or Hezbollah.
Israel acepted the 1947 partition by the UN- the Muslims refused and went to war. There was no nation there called Palestine! That non-existent Palestinian state never had Jerusalem as a capitol. Jerusalme was captured from the Jordanians. But being ticked off about a made up offense is still not an excuse to become guerilla terrorists and butcher babies and elderly and mothers.
During teh tribulation (Daniels 70th week) 2/3 of all Jews will be killed, and the one third left will get saved. but that does not mean the land is not theirs now- for it is by Covenant.
So you don't care how they fight? They give no warnings like Israel does to allow innocents to flee.
Well in every war there are civilians who die. but I would not trust Hamas media at all! they keep people in apartments where they hide to try to not get killed because Israel and the US dislike immensely collateral deaths. that is why our nations use precision guided bombs to minimize non combatants deaths. Hamas and the fellow butchers of Islam just launch 1,000's of unguided rockets and could care less who dies.
When the terrorist use their own people as human shields or that most of the people help and support the terrorists. this hatred has been going on since Isaac and Ishmael and Jacob and Esau! When God sent Israel into its land- He ordered them to wipe out all the people- women and children also- for they were evil.
So to you God was mistaken when He said in Romans 13 that governments do not carry the sword in vain?
Unless of course they are hiding among the civilians that hate your nation and hope for genocide. Then you won't kill them for you can't tell them apart! The problem lies in you can't tell a terrorist from a normal civilian because they fight dirty- no uniforms and fight from neighborhoods, schools and hospitals
UNless they co mingle among the civilians who support them, then you will not kill them if you are the Israeli PM.
Neither are you. Nor do you speak for Him. I know I am not god and Israel knows it is not God. If the thugs and butchers hadn't started this war- there would be no civilian deaths.
Children are born with a sin nature. We are born alienated from God. No one is saved automatically as a child then lose their salvation at some mythical "age of accountability" so that they have to get saved again. that is the bible. Yes children are precious and should be protected. War stops that on both sides.
Remember Israel targets enemy strongholds and warns people to flee before they start bombing. If the Palestinians really did not want to have a war- they would end the hatred and genocidal teaching against Israel.
Israel has not started one war since they became a nation again in their own land.
Well we are talking about the evil of Gaza and the Muslim people. If you want to to talk about the evils of American teaching, that is a topic for another thread. But Muslim children are indoctrinated from the earliest ages to hate and seek to kill Jews. The kids are even taught how to fight as Muslim soldiers in grammar schools! Let keep to the subject of this thread and not throwe rabbit trails to distract from the issue of this thread.
YOu would not take a fight to where the terrorists are hiding if civilians are there who refused to leave when given the chance.
Israel is still Gods people. god made ETERNAL COVENANTS with them. Now I know America loves ot redefine words but eternal still means forever. As a nation they are temporarily set aside until the full number of Gentiles come in, then God will fulfill His promiese He made to His people!
Hope you nor your loved ones are in this group!
Zechariah 14
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
No worries, we will be taken up to be with Jesus forever long before that. You see, in the very end (when that prophesy is talking about, in case that is news to you) God again will be dealing with Israel. Though most of them will be killed, finally they all will get saved. That is the time He defends them. The secular Israel today is a very different story.
Chosen?
You say you are God's chosen,
and the apple of His eye?
As you maim and kill the mothers,
and let the babies die!
Will you blast away their houses,
turn their cities into dust,
Then starve the poor survivors,
because you think you're just?
You say that God is with you,
that He sends you to destroy?
Well I say that you're a liar,
and it's Satan who's your boy!
For though your prophets bless you,
and your judges all agree
God in Heaven fights against you!
He has heard the needy's plea!
You say you are God's people,
nevermore to be believed
In the synogogue of Satan,
Till the end you'll stay decieved!
You say you are God's chosen,
and the apple of His eye?
As you maim and kill the mothers,
and let the babies die!
Will you blast away their houses,
turn their cities into dust,
Then starve the poor survivors,
because you think you're just?
You say that God is with you,
that He sends you to destroy?
Well I say that you're a liar,
and it's Satan who's your boy!
For though your prophets bless you,
and your judges all agree
God in Heaven fights against you!
He has heard the needy's plea!
You say you are God's people,
nevermore to be believed
In the synogogue of Satan,
Till the end you'll stay decieved!
I assume you mean me, because I do not accept that blowing up civilians is cool. Neither does God. Relax
One day all the families of the earth will be blessed in His seed. Not now. The same is true for the first part of the verse.
Genesis 12:3
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
God did not curse Babylon for taking them captive. He used them. The future time when He blesses them forever as a nation and people is after they get saved. In the meantime they do not speak for God in any way, or act for Him or represent Him. They are not eligible for Good to restore them to the land and protect then either until they are saved in the end. They have lost their position until they get right with God. Christians speak for Good now. The gospel is given to us. We bear His message to the world now. The land being given was conditional on their obedience. Those who believe in the end will get the land. God will THEN give it to them. In no way does that verse mean that we must accept their appropriating some of that land themselves while they are far from God in unbelief.
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