Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

[BlessedPeace]

Jesus is the God of both testaments. He hates people killing children. Really.

Not at all true. Else he wouldn't have slaughtered countless numbers of them in the OT.

What should we think about a small country that closes its own airport others built for them due to suicide bombings?

What should we say about a nation that scuttled its own docks when the civilians need to flee or whine about the lack of economic opportunities?

What do we tell a nation that digs up its own water lines to make weapons of war when they say their children are thirsty?

What do we tell that nation when they claim all their problems are someone else's fault?

You mean after their defenders safe at home thousands of miles away invoke children as a related cause?

 

[amigo de christo]

If Israel cared about children why blow up their apartments and them mow them down by air when they flee?

the agenda of the liberal woke is of satan . that might sting a bit but its something you need to know .
ALSO i dont support either sides war . I just aint gonna be played by either side . ITS JESUS ALONE and the BIBLE ALONE
i shall cling too till my last breath . Satan is gonna use both sides in this war .
Ps , never hope in or vote for biden , he doeth the work of satan , on that note my advice would be Dont vote for trump either .
ITS TIME WE return to the bible , THAT GOD , HIS CHRIST and not pick and choose what parts to beleive
but rather BELIEVE IT ALL . NOW YA KNOW why both liberals and conservatives
why both churches and false religoins UNITE against me . THIS GRINGO WILL DIE A HAPPY MAN NO MATTER WHAT I SUFFER
at either of yalls sides . I , by grace , HAVE MADE MY CHOICE . FUNDAMENTAL ALL THE WAY BIBLE ONLY JESUS ONLY lamb .
So , you dont have to pretend to love me as do others , nor do you have to hate me either .
DO as you must , they will do as they must , BUT I AM GONNA DO AS JESUS SAID TO DO . LOVING EVERY WORD IN that bible .
SOON you all , both sides will unite against folks like me . WISH , for yalls sake it were not true , BUT IT IS what IT IS
I do hope ,however and pray that many from both sides will simply repent and return to the TRUE GOD , THE TRUE CHRIST
to the truth in the bible . MY desire is good for those who even hate me . BUT HOLD NOT YOUR BREATH
and i say the same to the conservative side , HOLD NOT its breath either waiting for me to conform to either side .
MAY I DIE FIRST before i do . You looking at a fundamental willing to die for JESUS lamb . weep not for me
weep for both sides who know him not , BUT NOT FOR ME .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No. I would not be there because I would not have pretended God wanted me to steal their lands and imprison them in camps. So why would they attack me? The answer I gave for you was regarding what they could do now. If they believed in their Messiah, no Hamas or anyone else would ever be able to lift a finger against them.

So you do not accept the fact that the land of Israel belongs to Israel then.

YOu believe it was okay then that when Israel was granted their land back in 1948, that 5 arab armies outnumbering all Jews in Israel 20 to 1, attacked Israel with the intent of killing all the Jews.

So you believe all it takes is for someone to believe in Jesus and they are immune from harm?

Nothing. They are terrorists that kill civilians including babies. The question is why is Israel not better than them?

They are much bettwer, but you are blinded by Muslim propaganda to see or believe it.

If you blow them up in apartments that is intentionally killing them also.

If they do not leave when told they would be bombed because Hamas terrorists are there, that is on them. But you would rather let the Hamas butchers live to kill more of your people again ,the new and now Israeli Prime Minister in our scenario.

Already done. Repent and get saved. There IS no other way. But if you want to be just another regular secular nation then how about being civilized??

So until every one repents and gets saved- you would let your people get butchered by Hamas. IN opposition to Romans 13.

Wonder what you think of God when in the OT He ordered Israel to kill every one in pagan cities and not even spare the kids or animals? You must think God terrible.

When He returns it does not matter at all where Jewish people are that believe in Him as the all (who are left alive still then) God will take them back to that land and give it to them. No one will ever attack them again period. He will be there and be their God protecting them. There will be peace on earth.

But we are talking about until that happens! You would just let Jews worldwide be killed by those who have sworn an oath to genocide against all Jews.

That is no excuse to mass murder civilians, sorry. As I mentioned my advice is to accept your Messiah. Then Hamas would be flicked away like an insect as would all enemies. Presto. The same day! (unless they also got saved of course:) )

Tell that to god who ordered the entire slaughter of many civilians ! Well until everyone on earth accepts jesus as Messiah, wars will happen people will get killed. And if you were in charge of a nation, you would sacrifice your innocent civilians so that your armies would not kill civilians. Glad you are not in charge!

Romans 13

King James Version

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13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

and just remember in Palestine and many muslim nations, their version of mickey mouse and clowns on TV promote children to kill Jews.
They are taught in schools that Israel as a nation does not exist!
They are taught Israelis are germs!

So their entire populations are taught and brainwashed from teh earliest age to take up arms against Israel!

Just remember the story of Haman.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

They're not the first. The Vietkong did the same thing. ISIS,the Taliban, all secreted themselves among innocent civilians.
That way when the enemy would attack the propaganda would report their enemy attacked innocent men,women and children.

And people would be distracted by those reports and the outrage would undermine the allied effort.

Because those who reacted didn't realize,put it together,that those Innocents were dead because the enemy used them as shields .

And outraged Americans didn't realize that either. The only way those innocent's were killed is because their own people chose to make them a sacrifice to their effort.

Sad but True. It seems like Dad has drunk the Kool-Aid of Muslim Propaganda

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No. I would not be there because I would not have pretended God wanted me to steal their lands and imprison them in camps.

You need to check your history! Israel never imprisoned people in "camps" That were fellow Muslime doing that!

If you believed the bible at all, you would know that even Gaza and the West bank belong to Israel via HIs eternal covenant with Abraham and his son Isaac and Grandson Jacob!

Israel sends tons of food and medical supplies to Gaza and the West Bank. Muslim nations do not. They just send supplies to be used as weapons of war. YOu have to stop believing th e lies spun so well by crafty people.

Everything you have written so far shows you would rather see 1,000,000 civilian Jews killed versus the IDF killing one Muslim civilian.

 

[BlessedPeace]

What has that got to do with this thread?

Everything. It's your thread.

Sad but True. It seems like Dad has drunk the Kool-Aid of Muslim Propaganda

Or,is a Muslim.And all the whole has practiced Taqiya. while joining infidel forums like this one. Spurred in by this Hamas news.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No. you do not get to default to 'hypocrisy' when people do not mass murder children. I think that would be noble. Admirable.

What number do you use to define murder as mass murder. Especially seeing as you would let your enemies commit mass murder of your citizens if you were in charge as you would not allow your armies to kill civilians who support those who are killing you.

 

[Jack]

I know. But over 2/3 of them will be killed first as well as a lot of other things happen first.

Israel will suffer indeed, but not nearly as much as their enemies.

 

[amigo de christo]

Sad but True. It seems like Dad has drunk the Kool-Aid of Muslim Propaganda

The religion of ISLAM is of the devil . The religoin of budda is of the devil
the religion of the all inclusive is OF THE DEVIL and how he will unite all religoins
as one . THE SOONER WE LEARN THIS the better off we are and will be .
Dad has not drunk of the kool aid of muslim propoganda , but he may have well drunk of the kool aide
that over ninety five percent of christendom and the world and its religoins have drank of................
all religoins are FALSE , cept true biblical , TAKE HEED THE WORD IS BIBLICAL , chrisanity .
And the sooner we know this the better off we gonna be too .
The imams in large are already under its influence .
the false religoins are uniting already under it . The religoin that unites , the religoin they call love
that has come in the name of love to unite all to JOIN as one UNDER THE DRAGON .
ITS HIGHLY Infected the christain realm , its infected both sides liberal and conservative .
ITS EVERYWHERE NOW . THE THING is like SKYNET , ITS JUST ALL OVER the place now .
Soon the united love religoin will rejoice when folks like me , WHO DONT EVEN BELIEVE IN SELF DEFENSE
are rounded up . You looking at a man that dont even beleive i should defend myself
YET still i am being seen as dangerous . FOLKS GOT NO IDEA satan can say GOD IS LOVE
and yet DECIEVE them by another love into a LIE FROM DARKNESS .
ITS IN OVER NINTEY FIVE , probably higher , percent of EVEN CHRISTENDOM NOW .
WEEP and wail . THIS FUNDAMENTAL JESUS ONLY BIBLE ONLY lamb WONT COMPROMISE no matter what i get accused
of or labeled as . WE SHOULD HAVE STUCK TO THE BIBLE , THAT GOD , <HIS CHRIST , HIS EVERY WORD .
lambs DO and lambs will , all else will buy the lie in time and rise as one and holler OH LOVE YOU ARE OUR GOD
OH LOVE we do thy will , and yet know neither GOD OR LOVE . I Know what is coming against folks like me .
DONT WORRY ME ONE BIT . they can take my life , so long as what i do honors GOD , well that is all that matters to me .

 

[Jack]

No. you do not get to default to 'hypocrisy' when people do not mass murder children. I think that would be noble. Admirable.

Hamas knew when they attacked Israel that they would be responsible for murdering many innocent non Israelites!

 

[amigo de christo]

Israel will suffer indeed, but not nearly as much as their enemies.

Not all who are of israel are OF ISRAEL . and the sooner we learn this the better off we gonna be
as we point BOTH JEWS and GENTILES TO JESUS CHRIST and to HEAVENLY JERUSALEM .
Earthly jerusalem IS IN BONDAGE with her children till thisvery day . Earthly jersusalem is no more saved
nor counted as the children o GOD than isa muslim . AND THEY SURE AINT .
Earthly jersusalem is as bad as is the nations of the world . IF a jew or a gentile
DENIES JESUS as the CHRIST , i got bad news for them . THEY DENIED GOD .
OH , YES that be true . IF a man of any race denies JESUS AS THE CHRIST , THEY HAVE DENIED GOD .
AND THAT BE A FACT , A FACT the nar churches better recognize as well as anyone and everyone .
THE CHURCH IS GONNA SUFFER ALL RIGHT . JESUS SAID WE WOULD. we have had it easy for years
in the western socities . BUT EVEN THAT IS FAST COMING TO AN END . True lambs WILL BE PERSECUTED
and many will soon bleed for JESUS who bled for them . Never follow a jw
or any other for that matter . WE BESS BE DUG in the bible is all i can say .

 

[dad]

Not at all true. Else he wouldn't have slaughtered countless numbers of them in the OT.

You mean after their defenders safe at home thousands of miles away invoke children as a related cause?

If God says some evil needs to be dealt with, I know Him and that He has reasons. If wicked unsaved man say they want to wipe people out, I know they are evil.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Hamas knew when they attacked Israel that they would be responsible for murdering many innocent non Israelites!

And babies and children.Hamas butchered babies and children.Beheaded them.

Understanding Hamas’s Genocidal Ideology

A close read of Hamas’s founding documents clearly shows its intentions.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[dad]

the agenda of the liberal woke is of satan . that might sting a bit but its something you need to know .

I am not a liberal so how could murder justifying nonsesne sting me??

ALSO i dont support either sides war . I just aint gonna be played by either side . ITS JESUS ALONE and the BIBLE ALONE
i shall cling too till my last breath . Satan is gonna use both sides in this war .

Me too. Especially when they mow down families.

Ps , never hope in or vote for biden , he doeth the work of satan , on that note my advice would be Dont vote for trump either .

Ha. My hope is build on nothing less, than Jesus' blood and righteousness. It looks like the deep state and media and hidden powers really are who we need to vote for or not. PMs and presidents are starting to look about as relevant as Mayor Macheese.

ITS TIME WE return to the bible , THAT GOD , HIS CHRIST and not pick and choose what parts to beleive
but rather BELIEVE IT ALL . NOW YA KNOW why both liberals and conservatives
why both churches and false religoins UNITE against me . THIS GRINGO WILL DIE A HAPPY MAN NO MATTER WHAT I SUFFER
at either of yalls sides . I , by grace , HAVE MADE MY CHOICE . FUNDAMENTAL ALL THE WAY BIBLE ONLY JESUS ONLY lamb .
So , you dont have to pretend to love me as do others , nor do you have to hate me either .
DO as you must , they will do as they must , BUT I AM GONNA DO AS JESUS SAID TO DO . LOVING EVERY WORD IN that bible .
SOON you all , both sides will unite against folks like me . WISH , for yalls sake it were not true , BUT IT IS what IT IS
I do hope ,however and pray that many from both sides will simply repent and return to the TRUE GOD , THE TRUE CHRIST
to the truth in the bible . MY desire is good for those who even hate me . BUT HOLD NOT YOUR BREATH
and i say the same to the conservative side , HOLD NOT its breath either waiting for me to conform to either side .
MAY I DIE FIRST before i do . You looking at a fundamental willing to die for JESUS lamb . weep not for me
weep for both sides who know him not , BUT NOT FOR ME .

Great, sounds like your vote here would be not to blow up the kids.

 

[dad]

And babies and children.Hamas butchered babies and children.Beheaded them.

Understanding Hamas’s Genocidal Ideology

A close read of Hamas’s founding documents clearly shows its intentions.

www.theatlantic.com

Great, so they too are terrorists...so? What has that to do with striking convoys fleeing Gaza or blowing up the people?

 

[amigo de christo]

I am not a liberal so how could murder justifying nonsesne sting me??

Me too. Especially when they mow down families.

Ha. My hope is build on nothing less, than Jesus' blood and righteousness. It looks like the deep state and media and hidden powers really are who we need to vote for or not. PMs and presidents are starting to look about as relevant as Mayor Macheese.

Great, sounds like your vote here would be not to blow up the kids.

I wont vote for a one of them . And yes my vote here is to not blow up anyone .
But govts gonna do as govts gonna do . My duty , my mission , my entire whole lifes mission is
to preach JESUS CHRIST and remind all of every , not some , not even most , but EVERY WORD of truth in the bible .
Ps , never hold no rainbow flag , or any flag that supports any sin for that matter .

 

[Jack]

And babies and children.Hamas butchered babies and children.Beheaded them.

Understanding Hamas’s Genocidal Ideology

A close read of Hamas’s founding documents clearly shows its intentions.

www.theatlantic.com

Hamas' HATRED for Israel is truly Satanic! And some here say Satan doesn't exist!

 

[dad]

So you do not accept the fact that the land of Israel belongs to Israel then.

No, not until they are saved and GOD restores them to that land.

YOu believe it was okay then that when Israel was granted their land back in 1948, that 5 arab armies outnumbering all Jews in Israel 20 to 1, attacked Israel with the intent of killing all the Jews.

I am not too strong on the history. But if people were forced out of their lands I can see how they would be sore.

So you believe all it takes is for someone to believe in Jesus and they are immune from harm?

The bible promises that for Israel if I recall. Not for everyone. Christians have persecution and etc here. But as soon as the saved nation of Israel is born, in the end, they will have their nation and protection! (sadly I don't think that includes the vast majority of them who the bible says will be killed before that)

They are much bettwer, but you are blinded by Muslim propaganda to see or believe it.

Not at all. I never even asked Muslims whether they agreed with blowing up apartments. Couldn't care less what they think on that one.

If they do not leave when told they would be bombed because Hamas terrorists are there, that is on them. But you would rather let the Hamas butchers live to kill more of your people again ,the new and now Israeli Prime Minister in our scenario.

70 people, mostly women and children, killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza's fleeing convoys, Hamas says

Hamas' media office says the cars were struck in three places as they headed south from Gaza City. It was not immediately clear who the target of the airstrikes was, or whether militants were among the passengers.

www.pbs.org

??

So until every one repents and gets saved- you would let your people get butchered by Hamas. IN opposition to Romans 13.

Not at all. I think ANY nation should kill terrorists where they stand. That does not mean nuking people or attacking heavily populated civilian areas of course.

Wonder what you think of God when in the OT He ordered Israel to kill every one in pagan cities and not even spare the kids or animals? You must think God terrible.

I know Him, so I know that He had just reasons. We can't say the same for any nation or person though.

But we are talking about until that happens! You would just let Jews worldwide be killed by those who have sworn an oath to genocide against all Jews.

No way. Like that old song about 'God damn the pusher man'! God damn the terrorists and they deserve death as far as I can tell.

Tell that to god who ordered the entire slaughter of many civilians ! Well until everyone on earth accepts jesus as Messiah, wars will happen people will get killed. And if you were in charge of a nation, you would sacrifice your innocent civilians so that your armies would not kill civilians. Glad you are not in charge!

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You nor Israel are God. Israel is not even in belief. They have no privilege to pretend they are God.

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13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.​

Children are a gift of God ordained by God. When a nation kills His precious little ones we know they are not of God. We ought to obey God rather than man.

and just remember in Palestine and many muslim nations, their version of mickey mouse and clowns on TV promote children to kill Jews.
They are taught in schools that Israel as a nation does not exist!
They are taught Israelis are germs!

Then some of their education is bad. That is a surprise? In the west they teach them not to be able to know the difference between man and woman and to kill babies and etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. Bad education is not limited to Gaza.

Just remember the story of Haman.

That was not a story about a secular people.

 

[dad]

Hamas knew when they attacked Israel that they would be responsible for murdering many innocent non Israelites!

Yes and they were evil. So...? Does that give Israel the right to do the same??

 

[Jack]

Yes and they were evil. So...? Does that give Israel the right to do the same??

God fights for Israel. Learn that before it's too late.