Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

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Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?​

Against Nature, thus Wrong.

Males have express exit holes for liquid & hard bodily WASTE.
Females have express exit holes for liquid & hard bodily WASTE.
Females Also have an express exit hole for shedding off unused seeds, which such hole also serves as the entrance hole for RECEIVING the seed of a male & also serves as the EXIT hole for a procreated babe.

The First and ONLY ALIVE, LIVING female Human came forth out FROM a males Rib Bone.

Thereafter Alive, Living, Humans come forth out FROM (specifically a Placenta) IN the Womb of a woman.

Homosexuality is the UNNATURAL use of the Human Body.

It is however, JUST ONE of the Umpteen MEANS, to SUPPORT the Worlds Agenda of Downsizing the Worlds Population.
 

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Please pardon me, but don't you think a word like "penis" would work just as well here? The forum has standards and rules about expression. If we lower them we can get to a place where our content is too filthy to be called "Christian." Sorry to interrupt. :)

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Don't think twice about it Barney. :)

I must admit that the word I used was less objective, not dispassionate, and emotionally charged. And I realize that some might find such words "offensive." My intent was not to offend, but my use of frank speech was meant to be pedagogical, drawing quick and focused attention to the absurdity of ignoring the obvious.

The word I chose answers to the question, "Why would a woman object to the presence of a [penis]?" Taking my cues from literature, I understand that in certain situations, the presence of a penis is threatening. There is much literature wherein the term "dagger" is slang for "penis" and what is a dagger if not a blade to be thrust into the body of a victim? In light of this, it is reasonable to consider that a woman might consider that a penis is like a blade that might be thrust into her.

Mature women are not shocked to see a penis. In fact, typically women laugh when they see an exposed penis because they instinctively relate and sympathize with the man's embarrassment. But if a man enters a space reserved for females and flaunts his dagger, women are naturally going to be uncomfortable and perhaps highly agitated. The word I chose to use, I believed, helped me convey the dagger-like association women hold. I felt that my opponent didn't give due respect to a woman's standpoint.

One can only understand my point if one can admit the obvious use and purpose for the penis. As I argued many times already, males and females wear on their bodies (in this case a man wears a penis on his body) the evidence they need to determine the oughtness of an act such as homosexuality.

But per your request, I will attempt to be more dispassionate in my choice of words.
 
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Don't think twice about it Barney. :)

I must admit that the word I used was less objective, not dispassionate, and emotionally charged. And I realize that some might find such words "offensive." My intent was not to offend, but my use of frank speech was meant to be pedagogical, drawing quick and focused attention to the absurdity of ignoring the obvious.

The word I chose answers to the question, "Why would a woman object to the presence of a [penis]?" Taking my cues from literature, I understand that in certain situations, the presence of a penis is threatening. There is much literature wherein the term "dagger" is slang for "penis" and what is a dagger if not a blade to be thrust into the body of a victim? In light of this, it is reasonable to consider that a woman might consider that a penis is like a blade that might be thrust into her.

Mature women are not shocked to see a penis. In fact, typically women laugh when they see an exposed penis because they instinctively relate and sympathize with the man's embarrassment. But if a man enters a space reserved for females and flaunts his dagger, women are naturally going to be uncomfortable and perhaps highly agitated. The word I chose to use, I believed, helped me convey the dagger-like association women hold. I felt that my opponent didn't give due respect to a woman's standpoint.

One can only understand my point if one can admit the obvious use and purpose for the penis. As I argued many times already, males and females wear on their bodies (in this case a man wears a penis on his body) the evidence they need to determine the oughtness of an act such as homosexuality.

But per your request, I will attempt to be more dispassionate in my choice of words.

I understand and respect your concerns, and please understand that my concerns come from a place of encouragement, and not moderation authority. My job is to help facilitate pleasant participation, of which I often fall short. ;)

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I will be advocating for the side that homosexuality is inherently wrong, and the promotion of such actions and thoughts are evil. Similar or contrasting views are welcome and gladly accepted. Let us be in constant search for the truth during our discussion.
Yes, homosexuality is wrong. The people who are in this lifestyle didn't choose it. They are being tormented. It's a spirit. So, coming against them doesn't help anything. The solution is to offer them deliverance. To cast the spirit out. They must be warned that if they don't except Christ as their savior and repent, and the spirit is cast out and they go back to a life of sin, the spirit will return with 7 spirits worse that itself and destroy that body.
 
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Wow, where has your logic gone? :jest:




Jesus was right. People who think they are wise become fools and what little knowledge they have is taken away from them.
You just said not all killing is murder. I just brought up someone who agrees with you
I don't believe a Baptist Minister would say such a thing.

Your belief or lack of doesn't change anything.
Second of all the statement is absurd. Everyone knows, or should know that same-sex parents can't have children. They suffer from self-induced infertility.

Try to get your story straight before you come back.
About 35% of same sex couples have and are raising children.
Males and females wear on their bodies the evidence you need.
Just admit you don't have any evidence to back up your fake claims.


No. The man calling himself a woman sued. He had a dick. Get it? This doesn't support your case; it supports mine.
She was post operative. So no she didn't.
Orientation is learned behavior.

I would ask for evidence but you just demonstrated you can't back up your fake claims and you arn't honest enough to admit that.


A person with a dick, calling himself a woman is delusional thinking and any judge who would support a person in his delusion should be impeached.
If you walked into a place of business and an employ began screaming obscenities I'm sure you would win your lawsuit too.
Don't be ridiculous. I told you, orientation doesn't manifest itself until puberty at the earliest.
the core attractions that form the basis for adult sexual orientation typically emerge around age 5 and manifest around emotional bonding and ideas of life partnerships.
Secondly, any orientation other than male-female orientation is contrary to the natural order. As we said above, same-sex marriage carries with it self-inflicted infertility.
Yet millions of happy healthy kids are raised by same sex parents.
Now, either God designed everything, including human reproduction, or we are talking about natural selection. I believe God created everything and so it stands to reason, based on the principles of design intent, that God would not create a sexual orientation contrary to his purpose for reproduction.
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." Susan B. Anthony

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But if natural selection, any orientation other than male-female orientation will not produce offspring, whose genetic code will survive into the next generation.

Let me explain it in simple terms. If two men had such genetic material as to give them a predilection or orientation toward other men, that genetic material would die out because these two men have no genetic mechanism of reproduction by which such genetic material would survive into the next generation.
I find your lack of understanding of basic genetics sad. Go educate yourself please.
The evidence you seek regarding puberty is your own experience and the experience of your childhood friends. Most people have empirical knowledge of puberty and know from childhood there is no such thing as prepubescent sexuality. We call it the "Age of Innocence" for a reason. Your call for evidence grows more hollow each moment you deny the facts of your own existence.
Sexual orientation is about more than sex.
 
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Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?​

Against Nature, thus Wrong.
Occurs naturally and found in nature. Try again.
Males have express exit holes for liquid & hard bodily WASTE.
Semen is waste?
The First and ONLY ALIVE, LIVING female Human came forth out FROM a males Rib Bone.
SO...Eve was Adam's transexual clone.
Homosexuality is the UNNATURAL use of the Human Body.
happens naturally and occurs in nature. Try again.
It is however, JUST ONE of the Umpteen MEANS, to SUPPORT the Worlds Agenda of Downsizing the Worlds Population.
Is that part of the agenda to hide the fact that the earth is flat?
 
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Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?​

Against Nature, thus Wrong.

Occurs naturally and found in nature. Try again.
"Occurs naturally" is how you'd like to dismiss the point. The ultimate moral standard is life. And no life form reproduces in nature by sexual deviant (homosexual acts). And this is why homosexuality is said to go against the nature.
 
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"Occurs naturally" is how you'd like to dismiss the point. The ultimate moral standard is life. And no life form reproduces in nature by sexual deviant (homosexual acts). And this is why homosexuality is said to go against the nature.


RIGHT!
Seeds were designed BY God, “reproduce” their same KIND of “thing”.

God sets HIS acceptable moral standards,(called precepts).

No doubt men can ACCEPT, IGNORE, DENY Gods Standards and Principles…
And not a secret, EVERY CHOICE has a consequence…some positive, some negative. Yet the Beauty of FREEWILL.
(sort of a fast track advantage when it comes time for God to Separate the Divided!!)

Glory to God,
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You just said not all killing is murder. I just brought up someone who agrees with you


Your belief or lack of doesn't change anything.

About 35% of same sex couples have and are raising children.

Just admit you don't have any evidence to back up your fake claims.



She was post operative. So no she didn't.


I would ask for evidence but you just demonstrated you can't back up your fake claims and you arn't honest enough to admit that.



If you walked into a place of business and an employ began screaming obscenities I'm sure you would win your lawsuit too.

the core attractions that form the basis for adult sexual orientation typically emerge around age 5 and manifest around emotional bonding and ideas of life partnerships.

Yet millions of happy healthy kids are raised by same sex parents.

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." Susan B. Anthony

Susan B. Anthony

I find your lack of understanding of basic genetics sad. Go educate yourself please.

Sexual orientation is about more than sex.
Zoe tells me that I should stop now. I think I have made all the arguments that I can make. I told Zoe that some people don't post on a message board, but they do read along and that they appreciate hearing or reading good arguments. To the extent that I have done that and have helped anyone, I am grateful and thank you all for your time and patience.

In that regard, I would like to offer Paul's prayer to the Ephesians church, and at the risk of self-promotion I wish this for myself also.

Ephesians 1:15-19ff
For this reason I too, having heard of the faith in the Lord Jesus which exists among you and your love for all the saints, do not cease giving thanks for you, while making mention of you in my prayers; that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe.

May the Lord richly bless you and keep you. May the Lord bless all of those who participated in this thread, even both sides of the issue.
 
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Sexual orientation is about more than sex.
I agree. This is a very complex issue.
I have a married (to a woman) Christian friend that still struggles with same-sex attraction.
He doesn't act on it, as far as I know, but it hasn't gone away. He's wired that way.
On the subject of a gay lifestyle he is adamantly opposed.
In the same way an ex-alcoholic would be toward alcohol.
 
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The whole purpose of sex is procreation. Being able to create another being in the likeness and image of God is a gift that not even the angels possess. It's so important that God's very first command to the human race was to be fruitful and multiply. That's God's design for sex. So, that's what makes homosexuality a sin. It operates outside the confines of God's ordained order. Some people may not like to hear that, but the only opinion that really matters on the subject is God's.
 
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The whole purpose of sex is procreation.
You haven't read the Song of Solomon yet?
Don't show this to the kids.

 
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"Occurs naturally" is how you'd like to dismiss the point. The ultimate moral standard is life. And no life form reproduces in nature by sexual deviant (homosexual acts). And this is why homosexuality is said to go against the nature.
Yet it occurs naturally and is found in nature.
 

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I agree. This is a very complex issue.
I have a married (to a woman) Christian friend that still struggles with same-sex attraction.
It's not his orientation he is struggling with.

And that must be a horrible marriage for both of them.
He doesn't act on it, as far as I know, but it hasn't gone away. He's wired that way.
On the subject of a gay lifestyle he is adamantly opposed.
In the same way an ex-alcoholic would be toward alcohol.
People have lives not lifestyles.
 

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Yet it occurs naturally and is found in nature.

You can find examples of cannablism, rape, and even murder in nature too. Animal behavior shouldn't be the basis for right or wrong. I had a pet rabbit once. He would hump anything in sight. I'm sure if there was a male rabbit around, he would hump him too. Animals just go on instinct alone. To compare humans with animals is to debase humanity.


and that is why human beings only have sex when the female is in heat. oh wait....

Pleasure is secondary. It's the incenstive but not the primary purpose for it, which is to propogate a species.