Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?
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TinMan
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if you can't justify hate of a group any way else compare them to rapists and murders and child molesters
Wrangler
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And it has been demonstrated to be true. Name one species that propogates through homosexual acts?
TinMan
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Because of sin and darkness covering the earth. Any animal doing gay stuff is a democrat!
God never made animals or any creature to get all freaky deaky with the same sex.
A child can understand that! Just look at the equipment of men and women and those with common sense can tell the equipment men have was made to work with the equipment women have. Very simple.
Wrangler
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CadyandZoe
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Wrangler
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No. It is you who are lying to yourself. Life and death are not equal. Right and wrong are not equal.
Homosexuality is a choice. But also nature itself is corrupted by the fall of man in Eden.
Even if homosexuality were then driven by genetics, it is still evil, corrupt and a result of sins.
God did not create man corrupt, they corrupt themselves.
The very nature of man is bent towards evil, until born of God.
The flesh is flesh and goes on to further corruption and death. But for those born of the Spirit is life everlasting.
Which is why Christ said you must be born again, to be joined to the Lord as one spirit with God and gain heavenly citizenship.
Fundamentally transformed. The old is gone, the new is here, God makes of you a new creation.
John chapter 3, God's choice by the Spirit who is born again.
1 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”
10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [b]who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
Even if homosexuality were then driven by genetics, it is still evil, corrupt and a result of sins.
God did not create man corrupt, they corrupt themselves.
The very nature of man is bent towards evil, until born of God.
The flesh is flesh and goes on to further corruption and death. But for those born of the Spirit is life everlasting.
Which is why Christ said you must be born again, to be joined to the Lord as one spirit with God and gain heavenly citizenship.
Fundamentally transformed. The old is gone, the new is here, God makes of you a new creation.
John chapter 3, God's choice by the Spirit who is born again.
1 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”
10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [b]who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
TinMan
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If you were to compared black people to rapists and child molesters it would be hate.
If you were to compared the handicapped to rapists and child molesters it would be hate.
If you were to compared Jews to rapists and child molesters it would be hate.
Lies are not facts and hate doesn't magically change to love just because you are directing it towards one minority instead of another.
I guess the actual equivelancy is in comparing homosexuality to animal behavior. That seems to be the theme here.
Much love!
False. I never compared homosexuals to murderers, rapists, or whatever. You totally misconstrued my point, which is that human behavior should never be compared to or validated with animal behavior.
None the less, homosexuals are living in sin according to God's Word so... they will go to hell just the murderers, rapists, as well as those living in all other sins.
I'd imagine some of the funny people are nice, and don't get in trouble with the law, pay their taxes, and are otherwise good citizens according to man's laws.
Unfortunately for them, the Lord accept the funny people's perverted sexual preferences just like He doesn't not accept heterosexuals having sex outside of marriage... between one man and one woman.
All those involved in any form of sexual perversion will not be found in God's Kingdom because He's not allowing sin and darkness of any kind in to His presence.
The heterosexuals promote having sex outside of marriage to children, and the homosexuals promote same sex activity to children as well... Jesus has some very strong warnings for those that cause little ones to stumble and fall away from Him.... so their is a special place in hell where the torment is especially bad for those doing this.
TinMan
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I said "(homosexuality) occurs naturally and is found in nature
You said "You can find examples of cannablism, rape, and even murder in nature too." That is a comparison
But you should have said: "homosexuality occurs UN-naturally and is found in nature because sin and darkness has entered in to the World causing some creatures to act in ways opposite of how God created them to act"
There, fix it for ya!
TinMan
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but that would be a lie and one shouldn't lieBut you should have said: "homosexuality occurs UN-naturally and is found in nature because sin and darkness has entered in to the World causing some creatures to act in ways opposite of how God created them to act"
There, fix it for ya!
The lie is the claim that God created man or any creature to be gay like that.
That's what satan is going around telling everyone cause... satan only dates boy demons ya know cause he's funny and he's the father of all the funny peoples.
TinMan
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Just because something exists in this world... does not mean God's stamp of approval is on it.
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