Who Knows the God of Jesus?

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Jack

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Maybe this is what you need, yourself to be pulled from the 'fire.'
And that's your opinion. Why don't you join the debate rather than personal attack?
You know those that believe differently that yourself on this subject matter are not all of the Kingdom Hall variety. So why do you and other love to go there? To avoid really what they have to say and their words. It's an easy psychological cop out in my book. Why not pick on the Unitarians that have some beliefs in common with the Kingdom Hall, at least in this topic, on the surface level at least.

Just saying, you might be fooling yourself...aka 'being blinded with ignorance'
So, which are you attacking, Jesus is God or Hell is eternal? JW's ATTACK nearly every verse in the Christian Bible. I simply point out their attacks. Just saying, join the debate with Scripture!
 
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And that's your opinion. Why don't you join the debate rather than personal attack?

Just saying, join the debate with Scripture!
So after you first attack the OP personally, and then accuse me of getting too personal with you, now you ask me to join a debate. So when are you going to start? I know, why not address the thread question.

So I now I ask you Jack, do you personally and truly know the God of Jesus or Yahshua, the SON of God, his Father? And respond from your heart and spirit and not what you have be taught and parrot today...? They may be the same, who knows, until you let us know.
 

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So after you first attack the OP personally,
Why are you making this stuff up? I defend the Bible. Why are YOU attacking me?
and then accuse me of getting too personal with you, now you ask me to join a debate. So when are you going to start? I know, why not address the thread question.
Why didn't you reply directly to my comment? Hmm
So I now I ask you Jack, do you personally and truly know the God of Jesus or Yahshua, the SON of God, his Father?
Do you know Jesus, God of the Bible?
And respond from your heart and spirit and not what you have be taught and parrot today...? They may be the same, who knows, until you let us know.
No Scripture? I defend our Christian Bible.
 

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Why are you making this stuff up? I defend the Bible. Why are YOU attacking me?

Why didn't you reply directly to my comment? Hmm

Do you know Jesus, God of the Bible?

No Scripture? I defend our Christian Bible.
Thanks for your reply Jack...have a great day
 

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Telling him to burn in hell is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of pulling them out of the fire, THE EXACT OPPOSITE Jack.
Truly it had been better if jack had simply said , That that person is in danger OF HELL FIRE , time to repent .
Because lets face it , many are IN GRAVE and DEADLY DANGER OF HELL FIRE , IF , take note , IF THEY REPENT NOT .
that would have been a better warning .
 
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Jesus is God and Hell is eternal are part of the Statement of Faith on ChristianityBoard.com. And I defend both!
I think its time we remind all folks of something very simple and very clear .
Notice every time JESUS warned folks who had not repented to believe on HIM , exactly what HE said .
He never once gave the idea all would eventually be well for them . IT was this , IT WILL BE BETTER for SODOM
on the day of judgment than FOR YOU . JESUS never gave the idea of universalism . HE preached this , BELEIVE YE
and HE WARNED OF DIRE CONSEQUENCES , of even a place where the soul will be tormented .
NOW IF JESUS SAID IT , ITS TIME FOLKS BELIEVE IT .
NOW lets take them to the book of revelation . Notice it speaks too of a place called the lake of fire .
TORMENTED are the words that book used to describe it .
Take note it never once implies or states that they ever eventually GET OUT .
It says exactly who will end up there too . UNBELIEVERS was on THAT LIST , as were LIARS ,
as were the abominable . those who love a lie .
NOW take note it also makes a very dire and serious warning to the READER of said book .
IT says DO NOT ADD TOO , nor take FROM this book , and it says specifically , very clearly , what WILL HAPPEN TO ANY and TO ALL
who do so . THUS i see grave danger for a LOT OF FOLKS TODAY . we better stick to the bible is all i can say .
 
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Jesus is God and Hell is eternal are part of the Statement of Faith on ChristianityBoard.com. And I defend both!
Folks better get back in the bible for themselves . Cause a word of caution and good advice i must give ,
The watchtower the RCC and scores of others cannot and will not save you nor lead you to HE WHO CAN SAVE YOU .
That my friend is A SOLID TRUTH . I say it with tears in my eyes , but i say it CAUSE I DESIRE THEM TO DO THIS and FAST .
MEN have led christendom astray . They have led us away from THE RIGHTLY DIVIDED TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE
and into clubs and cults who twist scriptures unto their own destruction . THEY pump another another image of GOD
and of Christ . AND IT AINT GONNA SAVE ONE SINGEL ONE OF THEM WHO DO SUCH A THING .
I Know this is very direct and i know its very grave , BUT I GOTTA DO SOMETHING and this i do out of love
as i desire not one soul to perish . FOLKS BETTER GET BACK IN THE BIBLE for themselves
and stop listening to men who recreate their own version of said bible either .
TIME to learn GOD and HIS CHRIST for oneself is all i can say . AND speaking of time
the SENSE of URGENCY be only increasing to get them to go back to just the bible . CAUSE THIS OL WORLD
is running out , out , out of TIME . many will wail and wail and wail on the day of the LORD
they will bang , beg , holler and plead upon the door . BUT IT WILL NOT OPEN UNTO THEM as
they hear only this , I NEVER KNEW YOU FROM the very JESUS they thought they knew . MANY are following
another jesus and a love so false and of the world , THEY aint gonna make it on that path . THAT ROAD
that VERY VERY BROAD ALL INCLUSIVING ROAD . TIME to learn JESUS , TIME to get BACK IN THOSE BIBLES .
 
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Actually that's exactly what you're trying to do 'by satans will'.

Just because Kingdom Hall convinced you that you're a Greek and Hebrew expert doesn't make it so. Every Bible I know of says you're WRONG, even the JW bible!

Yeah, run to Kingdom Hall and burn in Hell!
Not wise to stand in opposition to Jehovah and Jesus. My words are fact. you better check. Its a very simple thing to look up John 1:1 in Greek and see for yourself my words are fact. then look up 2 Cor 4:4 in Greek=facts.
 

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Not wise to stand in opposition to Jehovah and Jesus. My words are fact. you better check. Its a very simple thing to look up John 1:1 in Greek and see for yourself my words are fact. then look up 2 Cor 4:4 in Greek=facts.
Your words are Kingdom Hall opinions. Why do you avoid the JW's own bible that says you are WRONG?

NWT Isaiah 44 This is what Jehovah says,The King of Israel and his Repurchaser, Jehovah of armies: I am the first and I am the last.

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Rev 1
17 I am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever,
 
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Your words are Kingdom Hall opinions. Why do you avoid the JW's own bible that says you are WRONG?

NWT Isaiah 44 This is what Jehovah says,The King of Israel and his Repurchaser, Jehovah of armies: I am the first and I am the last.

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Rev 1
17 I am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever,
No they are not opinions-they are fact--In Greek 100% fact-The true God Greek word ended in v. A small g god greek word ends in g.
 

Jack

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No they are not opinions-they are fact--In Greek 100% fact-The true God Greek word ended in v. A small g god greek word ends in g.
Again and again, your opinions are all you have to offer. You still haven't told us your qualifications for teaching us Greek. Being brainwashed at Kingdom Hall doesn't qualify you.
 
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Constantine is chilling with this lady in a blood red dress sipping some wine and chatting about Plato."Yes, my grandpappy made this wine." "Yum delicious"
There seems to be some spiritual fog hanging around. Some verses are in order. All these are copy paste, readily available in all versions. Let the glorious fire burn!

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

John 7:33
So Jesus said, "I am with you only a little while longer, and then I am going to the One who sent Me.

John 20:27
Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

John 13:1,3
Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end…

John 14:2,6,28
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you…

John 16:28
I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

John 1:12,13
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: …

Matthew 28:10
"Do not be afraid," said Jesus. "Go and tell My brothers to go to Galilee. There they will see Me."

Matthew 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Matthew 25:40
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 23:9
And do not call anyone on earth your father, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.

Matthew 6:1,6,14
Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven…

Matthew 6:9
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.…

Luke 11:2
So Jesus told them, "When you pray, say: 'Father, hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.

Mark 16:19
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

Ephesians 1:17
that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in your knowledge of Him.

Hebrews 2:11
For both the One who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers.

Romans 8:14-17
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God…

2 Corinthians 6:18
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

1 Peter 1:17
Since you call on a Father who judges each one's work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners.
 

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Again and again, your opinions are all you have to offer. You still haven't told us your qualifications for teaching us Greek. Being brainwashed at Kingdom Hall doesn't qualify you.
You can easily look up John 1:1 and 2 Cor 4:4 in Greek and see for yourself--Thats if you care about eternal life--It takes effort in this satan ruled system.
 

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Such irony coming from Kingdom Hall!
You will weep when this occurs--The nations will have to know i am YHWH(Jehovah)--Ezekial 37:28,38:23-39:7 and about 17 other places in Ezekial. You could look now. How much is eternal life worth to you?
 

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You will weep when this occurs--
I'm not JW.
The nations will have to know i am YHWH(Jehovah)--Ezekial 37:28,38:23-39:7 and about 17 other places in Ezekial. You could look now. How much is eternal life worth to you?
You don't even believe your own JW bible. Don't judge me!

NWT Isaiah 44 This is what Jehovah says,The King of Israel and his Repurchaser, Jehovah of armies: ‘I am the first and I am the last.

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Rev 1
17 I am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever,
 
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