Who Knows the God of Jesus?

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He said he was taught by God.
He said he was sent by God.
He said he would be resurrected by God.
Hew said he would RETURN to God.
He said he was given all authority and power by God.

But the Churches teach he himself is God?

WHY?
I'd say it's because he said things contrary to what we think is possible....things like (John 10:18) 'No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again'.
 

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He said he was taught by God.
He said he was sent by God.
He said he would be resurrected by God.
Hew said he would RETURN to God.
He said he was given all authority and power by God.

But the Churches teach he himself is God?

WHY?

I look at Jesus as being God's avatar here on Earth.
 

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I'd say it's because he said things contrary to what we think is possible....things like (John 10:18) 'No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again'.

You omitted part of Jesus words:

John 10:17- For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again; this charge I have received from my Father.”

Now- how is that to be taken with the belief that he was ALWAYS alive?
 

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You omitted part of Jesus words:

John 10:17- For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again.
18- No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again; this charge I have received from my Father.”

Now- how is that to be taken with the belief that he was ALWAYS alive?
You couple it with John 1:1-5 '
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.'
 

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You couple it with John 1:1-5 '
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.'
Does it, in your mind, read~
1-In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus.
2- Jesus was with Jesus in the beginning.
 
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Does it, in your mind, read~
1-In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus.
2- Jesus was with Jesus in the beginning.
It reads as it reads for the purpose of conveying the insight John had of who Jesus is.
 

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(Head Shaking)
John 1:5 Amplified Bible (AMP)
The Light shines on in the darkness, and the darkness did not understand it or overpower it or appropriate it or absorb it [and is unreceptive to it].
 

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He said he was taught by God.
He said he was sent by God.
He said he would be resurrected by God.
Hew said he would RETURN to God.
He said he was given all authority and power by God.

But the Churches teach he himself is God?

WHY?
You should check the rules on this. This forum's statement of faith affirms the deity of Jesus Christ, and the rules have prohibited challenging that.

Much love!
 

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How is Jesus supposed to be discussed when we Omit EVERYTHING taught about his God and Father?????
I thought this was a CHRISTIAN forum!
 
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They ban me from what Christ said??????
Where?
Did you read the statement of faith, and the board rules when you joined? I think part of membership is agreeing to uphold them.

The Word was with God, and the Word was God . . . and the Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us. We uphold the simple truth given here, among other places. Debate on this point has been prohibited.

Much love!