How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

[Eternally Grateful]

4. None of the above.

Jesus taught us that to love our enemies is godly behavior. (Matthew 5:43-48)
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." - Matthew 5:48 NIV

number three

for God so LOVE the world. He gave his only begotten son that Whoever believes in him, will never perish, but has everlasting life

Number 3 shows that Christ did for all of mankind. because he loved all of mankind

That proves God is a God of love, and when people reject him, They send themselves to outer darkness.

Blame the person. Not God

 

[St. SteVen]

But not everyone will recieve him.

Has everyone had the opportunity? (throughout history)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

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Jesus died for his enemy, every man woman and child who ever lived.

Now your getting out of hand my friend, Your false accusations will not do you well. With me or with God

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Has everyone had the opportunity? (throughout history)

what does Romans 1 say?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Let me provide an analogy.

A ship sinks in the Atlantic with many Americans onboard. The U.S. sends a rescue team. It's there to save everybody but ESPECIALLY the Americans.

Jesus saves all because he is merciful, loving, and CAPABLE of healing all people.

Let me give you a better analogy

The US sends a rescue team to rescue them all. But many decide to continue to rescue themselves. and reject the offer of the US. Because they hate the US..

and those who refused to be rescued ended up perishing

who'se fault is it that they perished.

the US

or the ones who rejected the US help?

 

[Patrick1966]

If your condemned,

then you will not go to heaven

where else are you going to go>

My understanding and belief is that the faithful (you and me, my brother) will immediately go to Heaven when we die. I believe this is the fate for most of humanity. The wicked, however, may very well miss out on Heaven and remain dead in the grave or perhaps they are in the Lake of Fire. And during the Millenium, while you and I and others are enjoying paradise on Earth with Jesus in charge, they remain dead or in the lake. Eventually, however, they repent and go to Jesus. Thereafter, Jesus gives ALL of humanity to God the Father. Here is part of 1 Corinthians 15.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[c] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Patrick1966]

instead you attack,,

I "attack" false doctrine by providing correct doctrine from the scriptures.

 

[Patrick1966]

for God so LOVE the world. He gave his only begotten son that Whoever believes in him, will never perish, but has everlasting life

Correct. We will not die and will not face judgment, condemnation, nor the Lake of Fire. Others will face those things but not us. However, they do not remain in that state FOREVER.

 

[St. SteVen]

If your condemned,

then you will not go to heaven

where else are you going to go>

That's the binary mentality we have learned in our religious upbringing.

Romans 2:14-16 NIV
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law,
do by nature things required by the law,
they are a law for themselves,
even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law
are written on their hearts,
their consciences also bearing witness,
and their thoughts sometimes accusing them
and at other times even defending them.)
16 This will take place on the day when
God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ,
as my gospel declares.

 

[St. SteVen]

Blame the person. Not God

Who created hell?

 

[Patrick1966]

The US sends a rescue team to rescue them all. But many decide to continue to rescue themselves. and reject the offer of the US. Because they hate the US..

How about this?

The U.S. Navy remains on location waiting for those who rejected their help to come to their senses and, eventually, all choose to go to the boats.

That's what Jesus does. He waits. That's why Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 that Jesus MUST rule until ALL of his "enemies" are "under his feet". In other words, the U.S. Navy must remain on location until ALL of those in the water have gotten into the boats.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
Has everyone had the opportunity? (throughout history)

what does Romans 1 say?

It says that a creator is revealed in creation. There is no excuse to deny this fact.
Which has nothing to do with my question. You used the standard bogus apologetic.

 

[ScottA]

There's a ton of scripture that says that Jesus saves all.

That's not what I asked. Of course Jesus saves all who are given to him by the Father. But that is not what I asked and not the issue.

I specifically asked where scripture says that God saves "all evil", meaning even Satan.

 

[Patrick1966]

St. SteVen said:
Has everyone had the opportunity? (throughout history)

It says that a creator is revealed in creation. There is no excuse to deny this fact.
Which has nothing to do with my question. You used the standard bogus apologetic.

No, not everybody has been permitted to hear, let alone believe, in the word of God and in Jesus. I believe that, for most, they will not know Jesus until they pass away and are greeted by him and that they will immediately embrace him. The truly wicked, however, will have a different experience, or so I believe.

 

[Patrick1966]

That's not what I asked. Of course Jesus saves all who are given to him by the Father. But that is not what I asked and not the issue.

I specifically asked where scripture says that God saves "all evil", meaning even Satan.

I think you and I agreed to disagree and moved on.

 

[ScottA]

Salvation from what?

From condemnation from God.

 

[ScottA]

Let me provide an analogy.

A ship sinks in the Atlantic with many Americans onboard. The U.S. sends a rescue team. It's there to save everybody but ESPECIALLY the Americans.

Jesus saves all because he is merciful, loving, and CAPABLE of healing all people.

And you are again forgetting the enemy who sank the ship...and the rats.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

My understanding and belief is that the faithful (you and me, my brother) will immediately go to Heaven when we die. I believe this is the fate for most of humanity. The wicked, however, may very well miss out on Heaven and remain dead in the grave or perhaps they are in the Lake of Fire. And during the Millenium, while you and I and others are enjoying paradise on Earth with Jesus in charge, they remain dead or in the lake. Eventually, however, they repent and go to Jesus. Thereafter, Jesus gives ALL of humanity to God the Father. Here is part of 1 Corinthians 15.

1 Corinthians 15:22-28
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[c] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

so they repent AFTER they see Jesus. when everyone would repent.

And are not punished while they were hear on earth and loved their sin more?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I "attack" false doctrine by providing correct doctrine from the scriptures.

It has to be false first.

You need to learn to discuss. and not attack.. Everytime you point a finger, as my mother used to say, three are pointing back at you

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Correct. We will not die and will not face judgment, condemnation, nor the Lake of Fire. Others will face those things but not us. However, they do not remain in that state FOREVER.

God says otherwise. as the passages which we have shown you show

I notice you did not respond to the passages I reposted and posted to you, is there a reason?