The Hell Doctrine - No doctrinal unity

[Jack]

What would you call one who thinks a non living magazine is a teacher?

You haven't 'studied' the Watch Tower? You almost never give proof for any of your comments.

 

[teamventure]

That's funny, thanks.
How do you define biblical inerrancy?

Do you mean the original manuscripts? (which are long gone)
The manuscript copies and fragments chosen by the translators? (from thousands of copies of copies of copies...)
Or the translations that were voted on and selected by committee in the 4th century? (the canons)
And which of the three canons is the inerrant one?

Do you know where the Bible came from?
Are you familiar with the term "Textual Criticism"?
Which of the three translation methods produced an inerrant Bible?

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus – Textual Criticism 101​

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus - Textual Criticism 101 - Berean Patriot

All of the questions you're asking are faith in men not faith in God. Have fun with that on judgment day.

 

[teamventure]

That's funny, thanks.
How do you define biblical inerrancy?

Do you mean the original manuscripts? (which are long gone)
The manuscript copies and fragments chosen by the translators? (from thousands of copies of copies of copies...)
Or the translations that were voted on and selected by committee in the 4th century? (the canons)
And which of the three canons is the inerrant one?

Do you know where the Bible came from?
Are you familiar with the term "Textual Criticism"?
Which of the three translation methods produced an inerrant Bible?

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus – Textual Criticism 101​

Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus - Textual Criticism 101 - Berean Patriot

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16 NIV

 

[face2face]

If challenges make you uncomfortable, you might want to avoid my topics.
Not to say that you aren't welcome, but...

Seems you haven't had anything but snarky comments to contribute on this topic.
Can you do better than that?

Wow, I thought I would have a look around and well well well!

@Triumph1300 Hell is the grave plain and simple!

No such thing as a fallen angel.
No place of enternal torment other than the knowledge of being forgotten forever
Happy for you to put up any verse and have it explained.

F2F

 

[Jack]

Wow, I thought I would have a look around and well well well!

@Triumph1300 Hell is the grave plain and simple!

No such thing as a fallen angel.
No place of enternal torment other than the knowledge of being forgotten forever
Happy for you to put up any verse and have it explained.

F2F

God won't ask permission to burn people in "the everlasting fire".

Matthew 25
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

 

[St. SteVen]

All of the questions you're asking are faith in men not faith in God. Have fun with that on judgment day.

Do you really think God will confirm your false belief in biblical inerrancy?
Your mind is made up; you won't be convinced by the facts? (historic evidence)

 

[St. SteVen]

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
2 Timothy 3:16 NIV

What did that mean when it was written in 67 AD?
The Bible we have was not assembled until the fourth century.

 

[St. SteVen]

Wow, I thought I would have a look around and well well well!

On the prowl? - LOL

1 Peter 5:8 NIV
Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

 

[face2face]

On the prowl? - LOL

1 Peter 5:8 NIV
Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

A fasle accuser takes on many forms but is always human...you just need to understand the context.

 

[St. SteVen]

A fasle accuser takes on many forms but is always human...you just need to understand the context.

Is that a heavily-veiled apology? - LOL
And you misspelled "false".

 

[face2face]

Is that a heavily-veiled apology? - LOL
And you misspelled "false".

Ha I'm using a small phone ;)

 

[St. SteVen]

Ha I'm using a small phone ;)

Thanks, that helps me to understand somewhat.
I thought you were being foolish and unlearned. - LOL
My bad,

 

[St. SteVen]

Ha I'm using a small phone ;)

Curious about the photo in your avatar.
Looks like an isthmus between two bodies of water, or a very long and narrow peninsula.

 

[Behold]

Right. (not)
Why else would anyone want a relationship with God, except to escape him. (not)

You stated that "Hell" is a "doctrine".
Yet, Hell was created before there was a Hebrew Torah.
It was created for the "Devil and His angels" before Adam bit the Apple.

Hell is not a "doctrine".

Hell is the beginning of the eternal place of damnation that is waiting for a Christ rejecting, never born again, person.

All of these These, without exception :

John 3:36

 

[Instant]

Do you really think God will confirm your false belief in biblical inerrancy?
Your mind is made up; you won't be convinced by the facts? (historic evidence)

I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish. Even if I didn't believe in Bible inerrancy, (and I do by the way), I would still live by it and teach it as though I did because it is all we have as our standard. The alternative is chaos where everyone just does what feels right to them. I believe God is far more pleased with those of us teaching Bible inerrancy than those tearing down faith in His Word.

 

[Keiw]

You haven't 'studied' the Watch Tower? You almost never give proof for any of your comments.

Let me explain the watchtower to you.
Every Sunday, week after week, Every JW on earth gets the same bible based discourse explained in the watchtower magazine, Scriptures posted in every paragraph backing what is taught. Thus JW,s have unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth-no division.= 1Cor 1:10)-- You see no trinity religion on earth can claim that true mark of Jesus'1 religion. As well Every mid week meeting Every JW on earth gets the same 2 or 3 bible chapters to study then discuss at the midweek meeting, week after week, year after year, it never stops, Thus The real teachers who have Jesus apply--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God-So its a guarantee that the teachers who have Jesus with them do that without fail, like my teachers do-for 0 pay. The teachers who do not accomplish that are failing God, Jesus and the flock.
Some living in darkness condemn the watchtower, but what it accomplishes should astound this divided world.

 

[St. SteVen]

I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish. Even if I didn't believe in Bible inerrancy, (and I do by the way), I would still live by it and teach it as though I did because it is all we have as our standard.

You would teach biblical inerrancy even if you didn't believe in it?
Are you an invertebrate? (no backbone)

The alternative is chaos where everyone just does what feels right to them.

How is that different than what we have now in Christianity?

I believe God is far more pleased with those of us teaching Bible inerrancy than those tearing down faith in His Word.

The end justifies the means? (relativism)

 

[Jack]

Let me explain the watchtower to you.
Every Sunday, week after week, Every JW on earth gets the same bible based discourse explained in the watchtower magazine, Scriptures posted in every paragraph backing what is taught. Thus JW,s have unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth-no division.= 1Cor 1:10)-- You see no trinity religion on earth can claim that true mark of Jesus'1 religion. As well Every mid week meeting Every JW on earth gets the same 2 or 3 bible chapters to study then discuss at the midweek meeting, week after week, year after year, it never stops, Thus The real teachers who have Jesus apply--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God-So its a guarantee that the teachers who have Jesus with them do that without fail, like my teachers do-for 0 pay. The teachers who do not accomplish that are failing God, Jesus and the flock.
Some living in darkness condemn the watchtower, but what it accomplishes should astound this divided world.

Actually, I don't know of any Scriptures that JW's don't try to twist what God said. Still don't know how to quote Scripture?

 

[teamventure]

Do you really think God will confirm your false belief in biblical inerrancy?
Your mind is made up; you won't be convinced by the facts? (historic evidence)

Your "evidence" is just you scoffing at the truth just like an unbeliever.

 

[teamventure]

What did that mean when it was written in 67 AD?
The Bible we have was not assembled until the fourth century

Each translation of the Bible has been translated from the original versions. With a few exceptions.