The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

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Do you believe there is a right to ask to adopt a child, that would otherwise be aborted?

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Jack

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I was just quoting Scripture:

Deuteronomy 28:53
“Then you will eat the fruit of your womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters whom the LORD your God has given you.”
You don't even know you're quoting the CURSE of Dt 28. And you're telling Christians we are ignorant?
 

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I haven't heard this one in a while. Doubtless, snakes and snails and puppy-dog tails are of a far better class today, as well?

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I'm not sure it is wise to compare principle (that of inward defilement) with policy (the practice of abstaining from ingesting unclean animals—which were so even in Noah's day).

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Mockery—very becoming to a follower of the lowly Jesus.

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Don't know what you are talking about, and obviously you don't know either,
 

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That's all well and good. My interpretation of the food issue is that the dietary laws are in place for the Jewish people and not the Gentile believers. I am a Gentile believer. I am not Jewish.

Right now pork is one of the cheaper meats to buy. I don't eat alot of it and stick to mainly chicken. In order to spread out the meals some, I will add in pork maybe once a week. I am also a very picky eater. I do not eat fruits at all (it's a texture issue and some taste as well) and only some vegetables. Beans are disgusting to me. I say this to show why I also will throw in pork in my diet.

Plus, as I said above, I am not bound by Jewish dietary laws. You may think that we all are, those of us who call ourselves Christian, but we're not. That is my interpretation of scripture regarding diet.
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I understand. I don't observe any laws that I don't find liberating.


And I would never suggest that you should violate your own conscience. :)

My wife and my son also have a very great sensitivity to textures in food. They find many things unpleasant for food. It makes it nearly impossible for them to eat the healthy foods they would like to eat.

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Don't know what you are talking about, and obviously you don't know either,
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Well, at least you do know how to be dismissive and insulting.

I've come to expect no more from you than these jabs, Stan. That's sad.

I take no offense, but I must confess it's hard for me to decide whether to pass over your comments or to remind you that you're behaving in a manner that gives God no glory.

I'm working on it.

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Sophistry. Abortion and adoption are entirely separate things. Do you want to adopt a fetus that cannot live outside the womb?
I want to pray that it lives.

You are putting the cart before the horse, to justify doing away with the horse?
 
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What a gruesome pile of crap!! The law should not be involved in what a woman chooses to do with her own body!

Jesus died to give us FREEDOM!! Satan and his followers want to take the that away from us.

The Constitution of America jokingly guarantees LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FREEWILL, but Evangelicals, Republicans (and Satan) want to take that all away from us, setting themselves up as dictators seizing ownership of women’s bodies and personhood; just like in Iran and the Taliban.

Heil Allah!
Yes, but it is not just the woman's body at stake! The life of the baby is more precious than that of the mother. That doesn't mean we ignore the mother, but neither do we ignore the baby.

Adoption is a more perfect solution, than abortion.
 
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Adoption is a more perfect solution, than abortion.
Don't you know that might destroy the Dem abortion industry? They would lose MILLIONS of $$$! After all, Planned Parenthood donates MILLIONS to the Dem Party.
 

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Yes, but it is not just the woman's body at stake! The life of the baby is more precious than that of the mother. That doesn't mean we ignore the mother, but neither do we ignore the baby.

Adoption is a more perfect solution, than abortion.
I am only interested in what the Bible has to say, and not a bunch of cuckoos who are making up their own false religion.

The Bible clearly says that one does not become a LIVING BEING until after exiting the womb and GOD BREATHES INTO ITS NOSTRILS THE BREATH OF LIFE!!

I am only interested in what GOD says!
 
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Yes, but it is not just the woman's body at stake! The life of the baby is more precious than that of the mother.

Wrong! The mother’s body is the only one at stake. As long as the fetus is connected to the mother, it an integral part of the mother’s body. The fetus does not become a separate being until it has been separated from the mother by cutting the umbilical cord.

Part of Rabbinical Biblical Halakhal Law for thousands of years.
 
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Part of Rabbinical Biblical Halakhal Law for thousands of years.
And here I was, thinking you only cared about what the Bible says.

According to EncycloBritan:

Halakhah, (Hebrew: “the Way”) also spelled Halakha, Halakah, or Halachah, plural Halakhahs, Halakhot, Halakhoth, or Halachot, in Judaism, the totality of laws and ordinances that have evolved since biblical times to regulate religious observances and the daily life and conduct of the Jewish people. Quite distinct from the Law, or the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Bible), Halakhah purports to preserve and represent oral traditions stemming from the revelation on Mount Sinai or evolved on the basis of it. The legalistic nature of Halakhah also sets it apart from those parts of rabbinic, or Talmudic, literature that include history, fables, and ethical teachings (Haggada).
 
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And here I was, thinking you only cared about what the Bible says.

According to EncycloBritan:

Halakhah, (Hebrew: “the Way”) also spelled Halakha, Halakah, or Halachah, plural Halakhahs, Halakhot, Halakhoth, or Halachot, in Judaism, the totality of laws and ordinances that have evolved since biblical times to regulate religious observances and the daily life and conduct of the Jewish people. Quite distinct from the Law, or the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Bible), Halakhah purports to preserve and represent oral traditions stemming from the revelation on Mount Sinai or evolved on the basis of it. The legalistic nature of Halakhah also sets it apart from those parts of rabbinic, or Talmudic, literature that include history, fables, and ethical teachings (Haggada).
Indeed! But what the Bible says in the original in which it was written would not tell me anything about what it was saying. So . . . since I speak English, God has delivered to me His message in a language I can understand.

He has also provided to me the benefit of the message He has conveyed to Rabbinical Hebrew scholars who have devoted their lives to the study of God’s message in Hebrew for thousands of years. There are many things in the original language that are difficult to translate ‘literally’ into English, and these Godly scholars have been a great help in understanding the message originally written in their language: Hebrew!
 
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I am only interested in what the Bible has to say, and not a bunch of cuckoos who are making up their own false religion.

The Bible clearly says that one does not become a LIVING BEING until after exiting the womb and GOD BREATHES INTO ITS NOSTRILS THE BREATH OF LIFE!!

I am only interested in what GOD says!
Yeah, you're the one who called the curse of God in Dt 28 a blessing. That's quite a twist of Scripture Stan.
 

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What's false? Planned Parenthood donated nearly 100 million $$$ in two years recently to the Dem campaign.
Of course; why shouldn't they? The Republican party is trying its hardest to eliminate freedom in this country, including the right of women to decide on their own medical care.
 

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Of course; why shouldn't they? The Republican party is trying its hardest to eliminate freedom in this country, including the right of women to decide on their own medical care.
So, why do you want to kill babies? That's Satanic!
 

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What's false? Planned Parenthood donated nearly 100 million $$$ in two years recently to the Dem campaign.
I love it! The Dems are all about FREEDOM! The Republican platform is removing FREEDOM in favour domination!’ Under Republican nonsense we will all just be puppets on a string which they control!!
 
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I love it! The Dems are all about FREEDOM! The Republican platform is removing FREEDOM in favour domination!’ Under Republican nonsense we will all just be puppets on a string which they control!!
You're under Republican nonsense? In Canada?