Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

[theJW]

Why not start at the very BEGINNING?
Was Adam told if he rebelled he would FRY or DIE?

Did God prepare a place with Fire and Worms to receive him?

 

[Johann]

Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 11:32
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

You obviously haven't read elect, remnant/chosen/few--and the whole world/people will definitely NOT be saved in the end--you want to give it another go?

Christ came unto His OWN, and His OWN did not receive Him--I haven't start quoting scriptures, debunking what you hold to be true--that the whole world will be saved.

 

[Johann]

Why not start at the very BEGINNING?
Was Adam told if he rebelled he would FRY or DIE?

Did God prepare a place with Fire and Worms to receive him?

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I don't hold to JW's teachings. God's name is not jehovah.

 

[theJW]

I don't hold to JW's teachings.

I don't blame you. I asked about the account given in Genesis.
You hold to THAT, don't you?

 

[Johann]

I don't blame you. I asked about the account given in Genesis.
You hold to THAT, don't you?

Like I've said, I don't hold to JW's teachings and His name is not jehovah-no need to dialogue.

 

[theJW]

One down.

 

[Patrick1966]

Quote context, anyone can pluck random verses to MAKE universalism universalism

You mean when you folks tell us that "all" doesn't mean "all"?

 

[Johann]

You mean when you folks tell us that "all" doesn't mean "all"?

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Exactly poster-now if you will excuse me, I have better things to do.

 

[Patrick1966]

One down.

Do you believe that your understanding of God and his word is complete and infallible?

 

[Patrick1966]

Next they'll tell us that "everyone" doesn't mean everyone.

Mark 9:49

For everyone will be salted with fire.

 

[Johann]

Next they'll tell us that "everyone" doesn't mean everyone.

Mark 9:49

For everyone will be salted with fire.

What have this to do with--everyone will be saved on planet earth? Your scripture reference is out of context.

 

[theJW]

Do you believe that your understanding of God and his word is complete and infallible?

I believe what God has promised is infallible.
He has helped me to SEE.

 

[Patrick1966]

I believe what God has promised is infallible.
He has helped me to SEE.

 

[Patrick1966]

I believe what God has promised is infallible.
He has helped me to SEE.

Anyway, welcome to the community and let's keep in mind what Jesus told us, to love our neighbors like ourselves, even when we disagree.

 

[theJW]

Anyway, welcome to the community and let's keep in mind what Jesus told us, to love our neighbors like ourselves, even when we disagree.

Thank you- and I do!
People often speak out of sheer ignorance. I sometimes do!

 

[Patrick1966]

Thank you- and I do!
People often speak out of sheer ignorance. I sometimes do!

I'm wrong all the time, just ask my wife!

 

[theJW]

OUCH!

 

[friend of]

Interesting point. Thanks.
What do you make of this?

Hebrews 12:29 NIV
for our “God is a consuming fire.”[a]

I agree with it as it's scripture.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I'm just a Bible believer. Jesus is God and Hell fire is eternal!
Jude 1
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction; 23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, ...

Lets look at Jude.

Jude 1:7 says,
”Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Do you think the eternal fire is still burning Sodom and Gomorrha today?
You would think that just because the fire is eternal that it must be still causing harm or destruction to the city of Sodom and Gomorrha but that simply is not the case.

 

[Johann]

One down.

Don't think so.