No, look, it says right here, “I am crucified with Christ.” When Paul said, “I am” he meant ME!
Me? You mean Paul, or you?
I mean that when men read where Paul wrote, “I am crucified” they assume and claim it applies to them, even though Paul was talking about himself. They say, I am crucified, how dare you say I’m not when Paul said I am! And they use the other verse too, to claim that they are crucified. But of the verse that says, “you are still carnal” they don’t claim it that same way. Why not? Why when Paul said “I am crucified” does it mean THEY are crucified and when Paul said “you are still carnal” it doesn’t apply to them but only to others?
Self examination is necessary. If I am constantly getting riled, accusing others, getting my hackles up, holding grudges, being resentful, taking offense, having problems with my tongue, not being able to walk away, running around tearing down and not building up, etc., and I say I have been crucified, what part of me is it that I think has been crucified??
Not so fast SBG...
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2
By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?
Rom 6:3
Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4
We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5
For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.
*And now, the punch line................................................................*
"we have been buried with Him through baptism into death" In this chapter, as is characteristic of all of Paul's writing, he uses many sun (with) compounds (e.g., three in Eph. 2:5-6).
1. sun + thaptō = co-buried, Rom. 6:4; Col. 2:12; also note Rom. 6:8
2. sun + phuō = co-planted, Rom. 6:5
3. sun + stauroō = co-crucified, Rom. 6:6; Gal. 2:20
4. sun + zaō = co-exist, Rom. 6:8; 2 Tim. 2:11 (also has co-died and co-reign)
Rom 6:6
We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
"knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him"
NKJV"knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him"
NRSV"We know that our old self was crucified with him"
TEV"And we know this: our old being has been put to death with Christ on his cross"
NJB"We must realize that our former selves have been crucified with him"
What is Paul saying? First he said :I am crucified with Christ.......now do likewise...
It is very clear that in this passage ALL believers are SUN-crucified with Christ SBG, now you have to believe the Scripture as it stands written, and not listen to man and their philosophies, but what the Holy Spirit is showing YOU, IN this passage.
This is an aorist passive indicative meaning "our old self has been once for all crucified by the Spirit." The passive voice denotes divine agency. This truth is crucial to victorious Christian living. Believers must realize their new relationship to sin (cf. Gal. 2:20; 6:14). Mankind's old fallen self (Adamic nature) has died with Christ (cf. Rom. 6:7; Eph. 4:22 and Col. 3:9). As believers we now have a choice about sin as Adam originally did.
NASB, NKJV"that our body of sin might be done away with"
NRSV"so that the body of sin might be destroyed"
TEV"in order that the power of the sinful self might be destroyed"
NJB"to destroy the sinful body"
Paul uses the word "body" (soma) with several genitive phrases.
1. body of (the) sin, Rom. 6:6
2. body of this death, Rom. 7:24
3. body of the flesh, Col. 2:11
Paul is speaking of the physical life of this age of sin and rebellion. Jesus' new resurrection body is the body of the new age of righteousness (cf. 2 Cor. 5:17). Physicalness is not the problem (Greek philosophy), but sin and rebellion. The body is not evil. Christianity affirms the belief in a physical body in eternity (cf. 1 Corinthians 15).
However, the physical body is the battle ground of temptation, sin, and self.
This is an aorist passive subjunctive. The phrase "done away with" meant "made inoperative," "made powerless," or "made unproductive," not "destroyed." This was a favorite word with Paul, used over twenty-five times.
Rom 6:7
For one who has died has been set free from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.
Rom 6:9 We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God.
Rom 6:11
So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions.
Rom 6:13 Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.
Shalom
J.
