Romans 6:22

[Johann]

Honestly, your commentary author is not engaged with Paul.
At all.
So, I give you a key, regarding "christian authors".....
Until you know if the person who wrote your literature , does not believe that they can lose their Salvation, then you have to conclude that they may be a Legalist.
And You dont know this about your commentary writers, and that was your first mistake you made.

Would you cut and paste a quote from this writer you are selling, that states that they do not believe that they or you can lose : Salvation.

Post that for us.

You have to always find out the belief system of a writer, or of the "New" Bible Translators, or the Pastor of your church, before you decide to give them your faith, as you have done.

Also.. Here is some of what Paul teaches about the Flesh

The "flesh" is :

a few things..

Its a mind that has "fallen from Grace".........Paul says that you are "in the FLESH" once you have lost faith that Christ keeps you save.
He says you are "bewitched" when your faith becomes broken, as proven by the fact that you believe you can lose your Salvaiton.

Also,

Paul says that the "flesh" are works.

These are the works of the FLESH..

Galatians 5:19-21​

Honestly, your commentary author is not engaged with Paul.
At all.
So, I give you a key, regarding "christian authors".....
Until you know if the person who wrote your literature , does not believe that they can lose their Salvation, then you have to conclude that they may be a Legalist.
And You dont know this about your commentary writers, and that was your first mistake you made.

Would you cut and paste a quote from this writer you are selling, that states that they do not believe that they or you can lose : Salvation.

Post that for us.

You have to always find out the belief system of a writer, or of the "New" Bible Translators, or the Pastor of your church, before you decide to give them your faith, as you have done.

Also.. Here is some of what Paul teaches about the Flesh

The "flesh" is :

a few things..

Its a mind that has "fallen from Grace".........Paul says that you are "in the FLESH" once you have lost faith that Christ keeps you save.
He says you are "bewitched" when your faith becomes broken, as proven by the fact that you believe you can lose your Salvaiton.

Also,

Paul says that the "flesh" are works.

These are the works of the FLESH..

Galatians 5:19-21​

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19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,​

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like

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19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,​

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like

@Behold, I firmly believe in once saved, always saved, it is a covenant, and upon saving grace, my name, once written, will NOT be erased. Perfect Tense.

2Co 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.
2Co 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
2Co 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

I'll be glad to assist you in the Koine Grammar and Syntax as to what these verses means to me, but then, you are not interested.

Call me what you like @Behold, a legalist, or even worse, I don't boast in my self achievements, I having nothing to boast about, but this I know, my Savior Christ Jesus who died and was raised again, loves me warts and all, with all my faults and shortcomings, I seek His approval, not yours.
J.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Acts 20:28 - Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers,

You are equating “commentaries” that pervert the truth as a type of “overseer”??

Oh goodness…

You guys need serious help!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

savage wolves will come in among you

They don’t need to!

You read their commentaries!!

 

[mailmandan]

@Behold, I firmly believe in once saved, always saved, it is a covenant, and upon saving grace, my name, once written, will NOT be erased. Perfect Tense.

2Co 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.
2Co 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
2Co 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

I'll be glad to assist you in the Koine Grammar and Syntax as to what these verses means to me, but then, you are not interested.

Call me what you like @Behold, a legalist, or even worse, I don't boast in my self achievements, I having nothing to boast about, but this I know, my Savior Christ Jesus who died and was raised again, loves me warts and all, with all my faults and shortcomings, I seek His approval, not yours.
J.

Amen! Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. Praise God!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

I firmly believe in once saved, always saved

I firmly believe the Holy Bible:

“…thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.” (Romans 11:20-21)

Take heeeeed!

 

[mailmandan]

They don’t need to!

You read their commentaries!!

Would you like a pacifier, TROLL? You are as childish as they come. You are a commentary unto yourself. Even Satan can quote scripture all day long, but that doesn't mean he properly interprets scripture and neither do you.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Even Satan can quote scripture all day long, but that doesn't mean he properly interprets scripture

And Saints can also quote scripture all day long and properly interpreting them…

 

[mailmandan]

And Saints can also quote scripture all day long properly interpreting them…

Yes they can, but childish TROLLS cannot. Your baby bottle is ready and once you are finished you can blow some more bubbles.

 

[Behold]

@Behold, I firmly believe in once saved, always saved, it is a covenant, and upon saving grace, my name, once written, will NOT be erased. Perfect Tense.


Call me what you like @Behold, a legalist, or even worse,
J.

My post that you are referring to did not represent YOU as a legalist, nor did it try to define you as a person who teaches the devil's lie that "salvation can be lost".
As far as i can tell, you've never chased me around this forum, on my Threads, trying to prove that Hebrews 10:26 is teaching that the born again can "willfully sin" away their salvation.
Be sure to note what your commentary writers teach about that one verse, and you my brother can find out who is to be AVOIDED.

My post simply stated that you have to find out what your commentary writer's belief system teaches regarding "eternal security in Christ".
If they are against that, (note what they teach regarding Hebrews 10:26 for example) as its thereby easy to discover who is anti-Cross, as their teaching is always going to be Non Pauline Theology, and ultimately self righteousness based, = Cross denying.

 

[Johann]

Amen! Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. Praise God!

God is good brother, our Lord and great God, Christ Jesus is so good, full of tender mercies and grace super abounding to more, and more, and more grace, upon grace

Eyes they have, but they don't see
Ears they have, but they don't "hear"

Shalom LaChem my brother in Christ

My dear wife always said.. "Sweetheart, never react, always respond, for the one responding is always in control..."

Wise words.
J.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

childish TROLLS

Your baby bottle is ready

Problem is, most “Christians” book shelves look like this:



My book shelve looks like this:

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Yes they can

They why aren’t you?

You only quote scripture to introduce the commentaries’ final word on it!

 

[Behold]

My book shelve looks like this:

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Why do all of your KJV's look as tho they've never been opened?

My favorite regarding your pristine KJV collection is : Charcoal Leathertouch.

Love that one, absolutely.

I would show you my Bible, but i left it on a Jet on the way to the States, a little while back.
I miss it.
The person who picked it up off the floor of the Jet where it was left laying, now has access to a lot of years of Study notes i made in it .

Currently, i just use these.
Not as impressive as yours, Michiah-Imla.

oh well.
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[mailmandan]

God is good brother, our Lord and great God, Christ Jesus is so good, full of tender mercies and grace super abounding to more, and more, and more grace, upon grace

Eyes they have, but they don't see
Ears they have, but they don't "hear"

Shalom LaChem my brother in Christ

My dear wife always said.. "Sweetheart, never react, always respond, for the one responding is always in control..."

Wise words.
J.

Amen brother! Wise words indeed. :)

 

[Johann]

Problem is, most “Christians” book shelves look like this:

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My book shelve looks like this:

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Nothing wrong with both book shelves, Spurgeon used to say.." Visit many good books [secondary sources] but do not let them be a substitute for your primary Bible.
You are majoring on minors, and I suspect, a little envious as to the top shelve.

I do not read commentaries to exegete the Scriptures, but a confirmation as to what I already know, and a deeper appreciation to my Lord as these Greek and Hebrew Scholars are extolling the Messiah, the cross, etc. with "golden nuggets" scattered everywhere, and only those with discernment can see what is needful, and what is not.

J.

 

[Johann]

Why do they all look as tho they've never been opened?

Lol! Ditto.

 

[Johann]

My post that you are referring to did not represent YOU as a legalist, nor did it try to define you as a person who teaches the devil's lie that "salvation can be lost".
As far as i can tell, you've never chased me around this forum, on my Threads, trying to prove that Hebrews 10:26 is teaching that the born again can "willfully sin" away their salvation.
Be sure to note what your commentary writers teach about that one verse, and you my brother can find out who is to be AVOIDED.

My post simply stated that you have to find out what your commentary writer's belief system teaches regarding "eternal security in Christ".
If they are against that, (note what they teach regarding Hebrews 10:26 for example) as its thereby easy to discover who is anti-Cross, as their teaching is always going to be Non Pauline Theology, and ultimately self righteousness based, = Cross denying.

Vincent on Hebrews
We sin willfully (ἑκουσίως ἁμαρτανόντων ἡμῶν)
Ἑκουσίως willfully, only here and 1Pe_5:2. Comp. Phm_1:14, κατ' ἑκούσιον of free will. See lxx, Num_15:3. The willful sin is the abandonment of Christianity for Judaism.
The knowledge (ἐπίγνωσιν)
Only here in Hebrews. Very common in Paul. For the word, and the phrase knowledge of the truth, see on 1Ti_2:4. The truth is the revelation through Christ.
There remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (οὐκέτι περὶ ἁμαρτιῶν ἀπολείπεται θυσία)
Of course not. For the Levitical sacrifices are abolished. It is Christ's sacrifice or none.

Robertson
If we sin willfully (hekousiōs hamartanontōn hēmōn). Genitive absolute with the present active participle of hamartanō, circumstantial participle here in a conditional sense.

After that we have received (meta to labein). “After the receiving” (accusative case of the articular infinitive second aorist active of lambanō after meta).

Knowledge (epignōsin). “Full knowledge,” as in Heb_6:4.

There remaineth no more (ouketi apoleipetai). “No longer is there left behind”

(present passive indicative as in Heb_4:9), for one has renounced the one and only sacrifice for sin that does or can remove sin (10:1-18).

See here @Behold, I am more interested in the Morphologies of the Koine text rather than the meaning of words.

But as you have rightly observed, I am not here to troll you since you are a member in the body of Christ, with a message, a calling, as it were.

We are mere servants, not to lord it over each other, but to promulgate the cross, the death and resurrection of our blessed Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus.

God bless brother
J.

 

[Johann]

I firmly believe the Holy Bible:

“…thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.” (Romans 11:20-21)

Take heeeeed!

I seriously think you should consider investing in a Study Bible, I can help you there, should you wish, since most of the verses you are quoting in dialog is right out of context, and you don't "see" it.

Did I ever mention "commentaries" are infallible? No, of course not, but boy, can these scholars help us on customs and manners, the cross references, golden nuggets scattered everywhere...just holler, and I'll give you a helping paw.
J.

 

[Johann]

Why do all of your KJV's look as tho they've never been opened?

My favorite regarding your pristine KJV collection is : Charcoal Leathertouch.

Love that one, absolutely.

I would show you my Bible, but i left it on a Jet on the way to the States, a little while back.
I miss it.
The person who picked it up off the floor of the Jet where it was left laying, now has access to a lot of years of Study notes i made in it .

Currently, i just use these.
Not as impressive as yours, Michiah-Imla.

oh well.
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Excellent, well thumbed, and will see if I can get a copy.
J.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

but boy, can these scholars help us on customs and manners

The eternal God, who is a Spirit, is beholden to the customs and manners of his creation?

Where did you learn this philosophy?

Let me guess…

most of the verses you are quoting in dialog is right out of context, and you don't "see" it.

Because I haven’t been leavened by all the “study” tools you corrupted yourself with.

Which is why you “don’t see it” when it comes to the word of God.