Abortion

[Raccoon1010]

That has been God's way so many times. With Daniel's prophecies, God told him to shut up the book . . . for now . .

And then when Apostle Paul was taken up into Heaven, God instructed him to keep his mouth shut, and not reveal to anyone what he had seen.

Jesus changed things when he came and sacrificed himself. I can't see him supporting some girl to go have sex, get pregnant as an accident, and then kill the lifeform though. That seems selfish and cruel. And both selfish and cruel people get put in spirit prison in the new testament.

Perhaps that is the majority of abortions these days?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Can anyone understand what this says. I looked up a study of 14 countries and the main reason women are having abortions is this:

"In most countries, the most frequently cited reasons for having an abortion were socioeconomic concerns or limiting childbearing. With some exceptions, little variation existed in the reasons given by women’s sociodemographic characteristics. Data from three countries where multiple reasons could be reported in the survey showed that women often have more than one reason for having an abortion." Reasons why women have induced abortions: a synthesis of findings from 14 countries

 

[Stan B]

Can anyone understand what this says. I looked up a study of 14 countries and the main reason women are having abortions is this:

"In most countries, the most frequently cited reasons for having an abortion were socioeconomic concerns or limiting childbearing. With some exceptions, little variation existed in the reasons given by women’s sociodemographic characteristics. Data from three countries where multiple reasons could be reported in the survey showed that women often have more than one reason for having an abortion." Reasons why women have induced abortions: a synthesis of findings from 14 countries

Indeed, socioeconomic concerns are a major cause for delaying an inconvenient birth until a later date when mother, father, and baby are able to start life on a sound footing which leads to a successful life. My kids were 32 years of age when they finished school. It is a long expensive haul, but worth it when accomplished via ideal conditions.

 

[Raccoon1010]

I didn't see your response in that post, is it there?

 

[Stan B]

Indeed, socioeconomic reasons are a major factor for choosing to have their gift from God at a later date when it was economically advantageous to all concerned.

A girl gets pregnant at age 15, when she has just begun her education. Having a child at that age would destroy both the mother and the daughter, destining them to a life of failure.
When a girl gives up the chance to eventually bare a living being, an abortion does not destroy that living being that God has given; it has merely delayed the delivery of God's gift.
Abortion merely disposes of the earthly tent which was being created in anticipation of God providing an occupant, but all that is being disposed of is a mere earthly tent.

The gift of that child will be born and become a living being, when the appropriate time comes, and God breathes into it the Breath of Life upon exit from the womb and becomes viable on it's own.

 

[Jack]

I thank God that I won't have supporting killing millions of those little darling children on my resume' on Judgment Day! I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have killed more women than saved by abortions! They are great at covering things up, with help from the Satanic media!

 

[Adam]

You can try and tell someone not to get an abortion, but we cannot force them to not get an abortion. They have to make their own choice This is what I support. As you said, "people do as people do" and you cannot make them not do something. They have to make that choice for themselves.

I support them in making that choice themselves. Which is better, forcing someone to do something or them making the choice of their on volition?

When I was younger I had premarital relations. I never got a girl pregnant, but if I did, I wouldn't have cared if she got an abortion, I probably would have encouraged it. I also strongly felt that if I found one of my children would have a disability, I would abort it.

Looking back I am absolutely horrified at these opinions I had, and I thank God that he kept me innocent of such horror, I don't know what I would do if I had such blood on my hands. The fact that people are so permissive of this and create such an environment where this is something that goes on with so little care, is a big problem. I don't condemn the people who have abortions, because I feel they were probably just like me, not bad people - just neither thinking nor caring, but the wrongness of it should be impressed onto people so that they do not make decisions like this.

 

[Jack]

When I was younger I had premarital relations. I never got a girl pregnant, but if I did, I wouldn't have cared if she got an abortion, I probably would have encouraged it. I also strongly felt that if I found one of my children would have a disability, I would abort it.

Looking back I am absolutely horrified at these opinions I had, and I thank God that he kept me innocent of such horror, I don't know what I would do if I had such blood on my hands. The fact that people are so permissive of this and create such an environment where this is something that goes on with so little care, is a big problem. I don't condemn the people who have abortions, because I feel they were probably just like me, not bad people - just neither thinking nor caring, but the wrongness of it should be impressed onto people so that they do not make decisions like this.

God can forgive the baby murderers but most of them love $$$ too much.

 

[Stan B]

I thank God that I won't have supporting killing millions of those little darling children on my resume' on Judgment Day! I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have killed more women than saved by abortions! They are great at covering things up, with help from the Satanic media!

YOU wouldn’t be surprised if more women were killed than saved by abortion ???

The evangelical way is saying you have absolutely no information nor statistics on the subject; so you make up a typical illiterate evangelical fairy tale; a religion emerged in total ignorance with no regard for truth.

 

[Jack]

YOU wouldn’t be surprised if more women were killed than saved by abortion ???

The evangelical way is saying you have absolutely no information nor statistics on the subject; so you make up a typical illiterate evangelical fairy tale; a religion emerged in total ignorance with no regard for truth.

I LOVE the Truth! It's called the Bible. You should read it some time rather than believing the LYING Dems and media. If you don't give mercy to babies you won't receive mercy on Judgment Day!

 

[Stan B]

Adam, I suppose that what you are saying is that you are a whole lot smarter and holier than God.

If God wasn’t such a dumb nut, He would have included within His hundreds of Laws, something as simple as:

“THOU SHALT NOT HAVE AN ABORTION”

But God is not as smart as you! He forgot to include a single law regarding abortion!! And now after 6000 years, God has sent Adam to correct His mistake!!

This has to be the ultimate in Satan’s religion of deception, sending his deceived demonic servants to pass on his deception to the world.

Any more Satanic deceptions to share with us??

 

[Jack]

Adam, I suppose that what you are saying is that you are a whole lot smarter and holier than God.

If God wasn’t such a dumb nut, He would have included within His hundreds of Laws, something as simple as:

“THOU SHALT NOT HAVE AN ABORTION”

But God is not as smart as you! He forgot to include a single law regarding abortion!! And now after 6000 years, God has sent Adam to correct His mistake!!

This has to be the ultimate in Satan’s religion of deception, sending his deceived demonic servants to pass on his deception to the world.

Any more Satanic deceptions to share with us??

If your God is telling you it's ok to murder MILLIONS of babies for $$$ then your God is Satan, leading you to Hell fire. Wake up Stan. I don't want you to burn in Hell.

 

[Stan B]

If your God is telling you it's ok to murder MILLIONS of babies for $$$ then your God is Satan, leading you to Hell fire.

NO! God’s message to me in Scripture, is that a fetus is no more than a blob of mud being constructed as an “earthly tent” as a home for the one who be eventually be born and briefly inhabit that tent; the one who becomes a LIVING BEING when God breathes into his nostrils the BREATH OF LIFE. That’s Gods message to us.

Then there are those who reject God and His Scripture, and like you declare God to be LIAR, and that a fetus becomes a living being long before God’s demonic LIE!!

Do you really believe that God is a liar; and you know the REAL truth?

Anyone smell demonic deception in Jack’s Holier-than-God declaration ?

 

[Jack]

If God wasn’t such a dumb nut, He would have included within His hundreds of Laws, something as simple as:

“THOU SHALT NOT HAVE AN ABORTION”

Did God say "THOU SHALT NOT MURDER STAN"?

 

[Jack]

NO! God’s message to me in Scripture, is that a fetus is no more than a blob of mud being constructed as an “earthly tent” as a home for the one who be eventually be born and briefly inhabit that tent; the one who becomes a LIVING BEING when God breathes into his nostrils the BREATH OF LIFE. That’s Gods message to us.

Then there are those who reject God and His Scripture, and like you declare God to be LIAR, and that a fetus becomes a living being long before God’s demonic LIE!!

Do you really believe that God is a liar; and you know the REAL truth?

Anyone smell demonic deception in Jack’s Holier-than-God declaration ?

I'm not holier than anyone. Defending babies is "demonic deception"? That sounds just like something Satan's children would say. Let them live Stan. Don't kill them. Receive mercy from God!

 

[Stan B]

If your God is telling you it's ok to murder MILLIONS of babies for $$$ then your God is Satan, leading you to Hell fire. Wake up Stan. I don't want you to burn in Hell.

So . . . abortion is okay, as long as doctors don’t make $$$ from the procedure!!!

You forgot to provide the Scriptural reference supporting your heresey.

 

[Jack]

So . . . abortion is okay, as long as doctors don’t make $$$ from the procedure!!!

You're defending killing babies.

You forgot to provide the Scriptural reference supporting your heresey.

I need Bible to support defending babies? lol

 

[Stan B]

Did God say "THOU SHALT NOT MURDER STAN"?

Jack, give us a break! You cannot murder an object that has never been a living being. So your theology is based upon the premise that “God is a Liar”, and that a fetus is actually a living being BEFORE, the time God says it becomes a living being!

I don’t understand why someone like you would be dumb enough to follow a god you have declared is a LIAR! But perhaps the god you worship is known as “The FATHER of LIES”!

 

[Jack]

Jack, give us a break! You cannot murder an object that has never been a living being. So your theology is based upon the premise that “God is a Liar”, and that a fetus is actually a living being BEFORE, the time God says it becomes a living being!

I don’t understand why someone like you would be dumb enough to follow a god you have declared is a LIAR! But perhaps the god you worship is known as “The FATHER of LIES”!

Are you really so ignorant to say that baby in my wife who squirmed and wiggled for weeks in my wife was not alive? You're OBSESSED with killing! That's exactly what Satan's children do.

 

[ScottA]

The topic was not about being THOUGHT OF in Gods Mind.
What AUTHOR does not THINK before manifesting?

I believe a PERSON consists of a body and soul.
I believe that occurs when a body is born and given a soul.
Those IN Christ are given Gods seed, according to Gods Order and Way.

The matter however rests with God and not with mankind. The manifestation is not life any more than the stones are the temple--God is life. His manifestation is a mere image of revelation--that the man of sin should be revealed.