Abortion

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Do you believe someone can be Christian and support / defend aborting millions of unborn babies?

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Naomanos

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That's a Liberal Dem argument.

Whether it is or it isn't the fact remains that not all abortion is birth control.

Even if the percentage is small, some abortions occur for medical reasons making the above statement that not all abortion is birth control.
 

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Whether it is or it isn't the fact remains that not all abortion is birth control.

Even if the percentage is small, some abortions occur for medical reasons making the above statement that not all abortion is birth control.
What percentage of abortions is for medical reason? Almost zero maybe? It's for birth control by irresponsible people and $$$ my friend! Let them live! Like someone let you live.
 
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Naomanos

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What percentage of abortions is for medical reason? Almost zero maybe? It's for birth control by irresponsible people and $$$ my friend! Let them live! Like someone let you live.

Doesn't matter if it's .001% it still means that not all abortions are for birth control reasons. If you said that the majority are for birth control you would be correct and factual, but saying they all are is incorrect and not factual.

I too would like them all to live, but support them making the choice, whatever it is, for themselves. They will deal with the consequences of their choice at some point.
 

Jack

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Doesn't matter if it's .001% it still means that not all abortions are for birth control reasons. If you said that the majority are for birth control you would be correct and factual, but saying they all are is incorrect and not factual.

I too would like them all to live, but support them making the choice, whatever it is, for themselves. They will deal with the consequences of their choice at some point.
Support the choice to kill others? Someone chose to let YOU live.
 
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Naomanos

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Support the choice to kill others? Someone chose to let YOU live.

Yes, my mother chose to have me. See the key word? Chose.

I support people making a choice. Read that again, I support them making a choice. At the end of the day it is still a choice to abort or not abort. We all choose every day to sin or not sin in one way or another. This is really no different. Choice is choice. I support people making a choice.

I do not support abortions unless medically necessary. I am not sure how much clearer I can make that.
 

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Doesn't matter if it's .001% it still means that not all abortions are for birth control reasons. If you said that the majority are for birth control you would be correct and factual, but saying they all are is incorrect and not factual.

I too would like them all to live, but support them making the choice, whatever it is, for themselves. They will deal with the consequences of their choice at some point.
All abortion clinics should be shut down asap .
There is no need for these wicked places .
IF there is a need for an emergency one can simply go to the doctor .
Lets see the real root in a persons heart .
If we defend the right to these clinics we are in deadly error .
I mean what woman goes to these places for an emergency life or death situtation anyway .
If a woman wanted a baby and she started having some kind of complications , IT AINT LIKE she would run to these hell holes .
THEY would go to their doctor . SO no matter what one tries to say , IF WE DEFEND these wicked places then it proves
what is in our heart . Think on that . If a woman went to a doctor and was told
she had to have an emergency abortion , THE PRATICIING DOCTOR could do that . WE DONT NEED these satanic
places nor do we need to justify their existance . THE ONLY reason for these centers
are for those who DONT WANT BABIES . And you KNOW ITS TRUE . SO i hope and pray to GOD
that every abortion clinic be shut down . Let my babies GO from the fiery furnace of these wicked places .
 

Naomanos

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All abortion clinics should be shut down asap .
There is no need for these wicked places .
IF there is a need for an emergency one can simply go to the doctor .
Lets see the real root in a persons heart .
If we defend the right to these clinics we are in deadly error .
I mean what woman goes to these places for an emergency life or death situtation anyway .
If a woman wanted a baby and she started having some kind of complications , IT AINT LIKE she would run to these hell holes .
THEY would go to their doctor . SO no matter what one tries to say , IF WE DEFEND these wicked places then it proves
what is in our heart . Think on that . If a woman went to a doctor and was told
she had to have an emergency abortion , THE PRATICIING DOCTOR could do that . WE DONT NEED these satanic
places nor do we need to justify their existance . THE ONLY reason for these centers
are for those who DONT WANT BABIES . And you KNOW ITS TRUE . SO i hope and pray to GOD
that every abortion clinic be shut down . Let my babies GO from the fiery furnace of these wicked places .

More yelling. After this you go back on ignore.

You are adding to my post something that is not there and I cannot understand why. I have made my position clear. I don't support abortion unless medically necessary. I support women being able to choose though. I don't support abortion, but support choice. You choose everyday to sin or not, should she not be allowed that same freedom? What makes your sins any different than choosing to have an abortion (for non-medical reasons) which is just another sin as far as God is concerned. It is also not the unforgivable sin.

My questions are to get you to think and don't require a response. You are going back on ignore anyway. I don't like when people yell at me in their responses. There is no reason for it.
 

BreadOfLife

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I have rationalized nothing. The fact that they have a God givenn right to choose is simply fact.

It's that simple...
Your argument is nonsense.
Free will does NOT dictate that you have a “right” to kill ANYBODY.

You are absolutely trying to rationalize murder by the absurdity of your argument.
 
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I guess according to some folks the one who molests children would have the RIGHT to his choice
cause he has the right to free will
Or how about murder , oh wait abortion already is murder .
I guess if a person wants to shoot someone we should just be content that at least they have free will .
Talk about allowing lawlessness to grow quickly . This generation is more concerned about personal rights
than they are about persons themselves , OR what GOD says is right or wrong .
 

BreadOfLife

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Doesn't matter if it's .001% it still means that not all abortions are for birth control reasons. If you said that the majority are for birth control you would be correct and factual, but saying they all are is incorrect and not factual.

I too would like them all to live, but support them making the choice, whatever it is, for themselves. They will deal with the consequences of their choice at some point.
Not sure if you’re a Christian – but it doesn’t sound like you are.

However – if you ARE a Christian, they you CANNOT lend your support to a sinful decision. This makes YOU a participant in the i\sin.

If you’re NOT a Christian, then you can disregard this Biblical warning . . .

Rom. 14:22
Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
 

Naomanos

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Your argument is nonsense.
Free will does NOT dictate that you have a “right” to kill ANYBODY.

You are absolutely trying to rationalize murder by the absurdity of your argument.

I do not agree with abortion, I agree with people making their own choices. That is not rationalizing anything and if my argument is absurd, then your is doubly so.

You make a choice each an everyday to sin or not. Someone choosing to have an abortion is the same thing. Why do you get to choose to do one sin, but someone else isn't offered the same ability to choose?

I do agree with abortion for medical reasons not for birth control reasons.
 

Naomanos

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Not sure if you’re a Christian – but it doesn’t sound like you are.

However – if you ARE a Christian, they you CANNOT lend your support to a sinful decision. This makes YOU a participant in the i\sin.

If you’re NOT a Christian, then you can disregard this Biblical warning . . .


Rom. 14:22
Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.

I am a Christian. I am going to state this one more time. I support people being able to choose, I do not support abortion unless for medical reasons. I am not lending my support to a sinful decision. I am lending my support to them being able to choose whether to have an abortion or not.

There is a difference.
 

ScottA

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God form_ED man.....suffix body completely develop-ED.
And then...
Blew a soul with Gods breath in it.

What’s is your point, as soon as the nose develops, God sticks His mouth in the placenta and blows a soul into the Still forming Fetus?

So a birth occurs before 9 months, and some are fortunate to survive.
* READ the facts in your article....C-SECTION, Staying in Hospital with Aid assistance for breathing and care....
* IS this what you think is USUAL?

The point is about being born, is when they become a person, a baby.
Taken, I like you so please take this in that context.

You have made some good and appreciated points, but they mostly fall under man's understanding and definition of the birth of children. But the biblical truth is that what enters a child in their first breath...is air, and the prince of the air is not God breathing life into them in the way that most would think. That's not "the breath of life", but rather the breath of Satan whom God gave rule over those born of water--which fulfills the promise of death. Such is Satan's "short time", just as it is ours.

Therefore we must also be born again of the spirit of God--first the natural unto death, and afterward the spiritual unto life.
 

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Taken, I like you so please take this in that context.

You have made some good and appreciated points, but they mostly fall under man's understanding and definition of the birth of children. But the biblical truth is that what enters a child in their first breath...is air,

I have not mentioned the child’s first breath ... of air.
Ofcourse the born breath in air

and the prince of the air is not God breathing life into them in the way that most would think. That's not "the breath of life",

In context, I have NEVER said, Gods Breath of Life is ... AIR.


but rather the breath of Satan whom God gave rule over those born of water--which fulfills the promise of death. Such is Satan's "short time", just as it is ours.

Therefore we must also be born again of the spirit of God--first the natural unto death, and afterward the spiritual unto life.

I was speaking of A Living Soul, given to all naturally born alive Man-kind of beings.

Born Again, pertains to the spirit of man, being Re-born by the SEED of God, not BREATH of God.
 

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Rather odd that the conservative christain and the liberal christain have found a common ground in abortion .
YET make mention of one thing against their politics and they DEFEND THAT TOOTH and NAIL ,
but babies , YEAH THEY DONT DEFEND THOSE . exactly both sides are tanking and will find common ground in
the false one who offers both sides the final solution . SO MUCH FOR POLITICS . I see some here
who DEFEND THEIR POLITICS and leaders , YET THROW THE BABIES OUT .
 
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I was speaking of A Living Soul, given to all naturally born alive Man-kind of beings.

Born Again, pertains to the spirit of man, being Re-born by the SEED of God, not BREATH of God.
Okay, but you were addressing when the life of a person is first that person's life as it pertains to abortion, which is at the point of natural birth and the common definition of when life begins. Were you not?
 

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I do not agree with abortion, I agree with people making their own choices. That is not rationalizing anything and if my argument is absurd, then your is doubly so.

You make a choice each an everyday to sin or not. Someone choosing to have an abortion is the same thing. Why do you get to choose to do one sin, but someone else isn't offered the same ability to choose?

I do agree with abortion for medical reasons not for birth control reasons.
I am a Christian. I am going to state this one more time. I support people being able to choose, I do not support abortion unless for medical reasons. I am not lending my support to a sinful decision. I am lending my support to them being able to choose whether to have an abortion or not.

There is a difference.
WRONG.

When you approve of another’s sin – YOU have participated in that sin.
This isn’t coming from ME – it comes from the Word of Almighty GOD (Rom., 14:22, 1 Tim. 5:22).

Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thereby share responsibility for the sins of others; keep yourself free from sin. You are a TEXTBNOOK example of a

By making yourself a friend to the world- you make YOURSLEF an enemy of
God (James 4:4).
Good luck
with that . . .
 

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WRONG.

When you approve of another’s sin – YOU have participated in that sin.
This isn’t coming from ME – it comes from the Word of Almighty GOD (Rom., 14:22, 1 Tim. 5:22).

Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thereby share responsibility for the sins of others; keep yourself free from sin. You are a TEXTBNOOK example of a


By making yourself a friend to the world- you make YOURSLEF an enemy of God (James 4:4).
Good luck
with that . . .

Show where I have said that I approve of abortion unless medically necessary?

This is where you an others keep taking what I say and not actually conveying what I mean in your effort to say that I am wrong.

I allow for people to make a choice. I have repeatedly said I do not approve of abortion unless medically necessary.

Now, show where I have approved of abortion other than for medical reasons.
 
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