Is knowing what death is a comfort?

[bbyrd009]

go walk on water

not really that hard tbh
not literally, of course

 

[-Phil]

hmm, doesnt really address the point imo

It’s a story of thoughts which arises now, about a time, a surprise, some thing being astonishing.
Similarly, some thing which makes me feel good.
Equally as impossible, but thought seems to make it so.

 

[Adam]

If you really want to get philosophical, then consider this. God is No Thing. That is, God is not a thing. Where nothing exists, there is only God. Now imagine you are floating without a body, in a total void without life or matter or light. You might conclude, the only thing that exists is myself, therefore, I must be God. "I think therefore I am". However, this is not entirely true, all that can be proven is that thinking is occurring, and not necessarily that it is you who is doing the thinking. So what are you then except for a conduit of thought for the divine? You are still lesser than God, and the fact that God exists in the conception, where conception is all that exists, proves the existence of God. And the fact that God represents the sum of all the highest qualities, and you do not have these qualities, proves that God is as of yet distinct from you.

 

[-Phil]

thinking is occurring

Amen, and even that leaves a little ‘meat on the bone’.

 

[Robert Gwin]

He doesn’t have a speech impediment, nor is he incapable. You’re ‘using it’ to insult & demean, overlooking what’s being said.

God's name has been used since the start of humanity Phil, it was first recorded for us in Genesis 2:4. After the 6th plague ( I think) God told Pharaoh the reason He hadn't destroyed him to that point was that He wanted His name to be declared in all the earth Ex 9:16. Jesus made God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and his disciples make it known as well Mat 28:20; Rom 10:14,15 and you are required to call on that name for salvation verse 13

Yes sir, I was being sarcastic I admit as he was, but what I stated is very true. If you want salvation, you had better come to know and use God's name, or very likely you will never come to know Him.

 

[Robert Gwin]

i can only recommend, for your sake, that you understand why it should not be pronounced at all RG, but ty for your time here

Oh I do sir, very much so! The one who tries to conceal it does not want it known.

 

[-Phil]

God's name has been used since the start of humanity Phil, it was first recorded for us in Genesis 2:4. After the 6th plague ( I think) God told Pharaoh the reason He hadn't destroyed him to that point was that He wanted His name to be declared in all the earth Ex 9:16. Jesus made God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and his disciples make it known as well Mat 28:20; Rom 10:14,15 and you are required to call on that name for salvation verse 13

Yes sir, I was being sarcastic I admit as he was, but what I stated is very true. If you want salvation, you had better come to know and use God's name, or very likely you will never come to know Him.

You were asked if you could understand the significance of an unpronounceable name, to which you replied:

“I can only recommend for your sake to pronounce it as best you can sir. Rom 10:13 Jehovah is not going to hold a speech impediment against anyone, would you discipline your child if they were incapable of pronouncing something correctly? Neither would God. What is important is making God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and using it as we have been from the beginning of human history.”

Then you state that you were being sarcastic as he was.
He wasn’t, and that isn’t sarcasm. It’s insulting to insinuate he is struggling & has a speech impediment.
You overlook what he said entirely.

You also overlook the name given in the Bible entirely.

I am.


Salvation

1. Preservation or deliverance from destruction, difficulty, or evil.
2. A source, means, or cause of such preservation or deliverance.
3. Deliverance from the power or penalty of sin; redemption.

Then you use salvation to justify your insults, revealing your self-ignorance.

Is ye not yet exhausted of this destructive, difficult, ‘evil’ way of being?

 

[bbyrd009]

Oh I do sir, very much so! The one who tries to conceal it does not want it known.

no RG, thats not what its about at all, sorry

 

[Robert Gwin]

You were asked if you could understand the significance of an unpronounceable name, to which you replied:

“I can only recommend for your sake to pronounce it as best you can sir. Rom 10:13 Jehovah is not going to hold a speech impediment against anyone, would you discipline your child if they were incapable of pronouncing something correctly? Neither would God. What is important is making God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and using it as we have been from the beginning of human history.”

Then you state that you were being sarcastic as he was.
He wasn’t, and that isn’t sarcasm. It’s insulting to insinuate he is struggling & has a speech impediment.
You overlook what he said entirely.

You also overlook the name given in the Bible entirely.

I am.


Salvation

1. Preservation or deliverance from destruction, difficulty, or evil.
2. A source, means, or cause of such preservation or deliverance.
3. Deliverance from the power or penalty of sin; redemption.

Then you use salvation to justify your insults, revealing your self-ignorance.

Is ye not yet exhausted of this destructive, difficult, ‘evil’ way of being?

I don't have any trouble at all pronouncing God's name sir, but some do, one of our governing body members pronounces it Jehover many times, because of his accent. Do you believe God will not accept it because he pronounces it that way, I certainly don't. God accepts His people based on their heart condition sir.

 

[-Phil]

I don't have any trouble at all pronouncing God's name sir, but some do, one of our governing body members pronounces it Jehover many times, because of his accent. Do you believe God will not accept it because he pronounces it that way, I certainly don't. God accepts His people based on their heart condition sir.

Behaviors & action can’t change when justified & rationalized.
Were I in your shoes I’d simply apologize.
But that’s just Me.

 

[Robert Gwin]

no RG, thats not what its about at all, sorry

I rather think it is Byrd, what other reason do you feel there is to conceal it sir?

 

[bbyrd009]

I rather think it is Byrd, what other reason do you feel there is to conceal it sir?

well, it isnt about concealing anything RG; rather more about recognizing that Yah cannot really be known, but only known of, similar to an empty room for a holy of holies, like that i think

 

[RR144]

When I was a kid, I can remember crying after watching a movie where many of the characters died. I didn't wanna die. Years later when I found out what death was and what the state of the dead is, I found comfort and so death doesn't bother me anymore.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Behaviors & action can’t change when justified & rationalized.
Were I in your shoes I’d simply apologize.
But that’s just Me.

No need, on occasion I make a mistake and do, but not in this case, I said exactly what I meant.

 

[Robert Gwin]

well, it isnt about concealing anything RG; rather more about recognizing that Yah cannot really be known, but only known of, similar to an empty room for a holy of holies, like that i think

Why would God make calling on His name a requirement for salvation, if it cannot be known sir?

 

[-Phil]

No need, on occasion I make a mistake and do, but not in this case, I said exactly what I meant.

is there any way you might understand the significance of an Unpronounceable Name, esp since you apparently fancy yourself some sort of teacher

“I can only recommend for your sake to pronounce it as best you can sir. Rom 10:13 Jehovah is not going to hold a speech impediment against anyone, would you discipline your child if they were incapable of pronouncing something correctly? Neither would God. What is important is making God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and using it as we have been from the beginning of human history.”

You’re not quite comprehending what you’re reading. He didn’t say he has a speech impediment or struggles to pronounce anything in any way.

 

[-Phil]

Why would God make calling on His name a requirement for salvation, if it cannot be known sir?

It’s the most simple & obvious ‘answer’ possible. The punchline is the setup.

 

[bbyrd009]

Why would God make calling on His name a requirement for salvation, if it cannot be known sir?

well, we’re kinda talking two diff concepts, i think
that yes, might seem contradictory, but then such is the nature of truth i guess

 

[Robert Gwin]

“I can only recommend for your sake to pronounce it as best you can sir. Rom 10:13 Jehovah is not going to hold a speech impediment against anyone, would you discipline your child if they were incapable of pronouncing something correctly? Neither would God. What is important is making God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and using it as we have been from the beginning of human history.”

You’re not quite comprehending what you’re reading. He didn’t say he has a speech impediment or struggles to pronounce anything in any way.

Do you have trouble pronouncing Jehovah sir, it is simple really Juh Hoe Vuh there you have it Phil. Perhaps you have trouble in understand what he was really saying, he wasn't speaking about pronunciation at all, rather indicating it should not be used.

 

[Robert Gwin]

well, we’re kinda talking two diff concepts, i think
that yes, might seem contradictory, but then such is the nature of truth i guess

God's people are recorded as using God's name many times in the Bible Byrd. Ex 9:16 shows His desire for it. And no even though some versions of the Bible use fame there, name occurred in the original. Jesus used God's name making it manifest to his close associates Jn 17:6 and of course his followers are commanded to teach all the things he commanded, there really is no option sir. Mat 28:20