Is knowing what death is a comfort?

[amigo de christo]

Isaiah 55
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Thats right POINT to HE who alone is worthy of all honor , all praise and all thanksgiving .
We ought to simply be humble and highly greatful unto GOD for HIS grace and mercy given us in CHRIST JESUS .
too many folks want to be exalted in the stead of GOD and look for honor unto themselves .
I say HONOR HE who has saved us and simply walk lowly and humble and with all our hopes and affections above on HIM .
Now let all that draws breath both praise and thank the glorious Lord .

 

[bbyrd009]

We mourn when a loved one dies, even Jesus gave way to tears, even though he knew he was going to bring his friend Lazarus back from death. Jesus in speaking about his death compared it to sleep with his apostles. A person who is in a deep sleep is not conscious of their surroundings, and those who have died are not conscious either, they do not feel pain, they do not feel lonely, and cannot interact with anything. Time comes to a standstill with them. Ecc 9:5 says of the dead: The dead know not any thing KJV.

The truth sets us free Jesus said, so how do we benefit from knowing the condition of the dead? Some cultures try to appease the dead thinking they can harm us, but we Christians are set free from that. Some religions teach that they are kept alive and might be undergoing torture, but again they simply are dead, not conscious of anything. Some believe you can communicate with the dead, but in reality if we successfully conjure up the dead, it is not those dead loved ones, rather demons, and Jehovah warns us about that Deut 18:10-12.

What is a real comfort to us that perhaps realize our time is close is that Romans 6:7 brings out that when we die we are acquitted of sin, and John 5:28, 29 points out that everyone who is in God's memory, and that includes all who have not sinned against the holy spirit, (another topic, but very few have this judgment) will be brought back to life in the resurrection. Another great point, even if a thousand years pass, to that individual it will be instantaneous, as they are no longer conscious of time either, just like waking up in the morning, only to a wonderful new world. Isn't this good news really a comfort?

well, you gotta lotta “its like this and like that” in there, so
No one knows where they go when they die

 

[bbyrd009]

What was the point of Jesus' sacrifice Matt?

Esau can tell you :)

 

[Robert Gwin]

@Robert Gwin
Heck of an extrapolation there, from people to religion, no?
You don’t really go so far as to believe there are people who are God’s and people who are not do you?
If so, how do you bear and cope with that condition? It so heavy.

By bringing the word of God to the unbelievers sir. Do you realize that everyone you know has been reached by us, yes sir I am confident in saying that, every single individual you know has at some point in their lives has been reached by us. We are so very close to fulfilling our assignment, I am so excited, what a time period we are living in.

 

[Robert Gwin]

The fact that JESUS died for our sins .
A remnant was there as they were in other places .
The apostles . And who did they break bread with , THE ENTIRE CHURCH . Dont forget that last part .
paul was not writing to the one hundred and forty four thousand ALONE when he said WHEN YE ALL DO COMMUNION .
So we would remember what HE DID FOR US .
The jw are not wrong on this alone .
NOW prove to me that only the one hundred and forty four thousand , WHO WERE JEWS that believed in JESUS ,
are allowed to partake of that bread . ALL BELIEVERS SHOULD DO COMMUNION . If not , paul was in dead error .
EVEN JESUS said TEACH THEM ALL THINGS i have taught YOU . INCLUDING THE COMMUNION .
IF we start picking and choosing what things JESUS taught , we gonna end up in dire trouble .
The communion should be done by all BELIEVERS .
JESUS taught them to do it , THEN LATER SAYS teaching them to OBSERVE , TO DO ALL things , not most , not some
ALL THINGS i have taught YOU TO DO . DO THIS IN REMEMBRANC OF ME . That too was taught by the early church
TO ALL BELIEVERS . I hope the simplicity of what i just wrote sinks in to you .

There you have it sir, the reason for the distinction. The simple truth is, out of the millions of God's people there, Jesus only gave the bread and wine and made the covenant it represented to those faithful 11 Apostles. That is the truth of the matter.

 

[Robert Gwin]

well, you gotta lotta “its like this and like that” in there, so
No one knows where they go when they die

I tend to believe the Bible when it says something sir. True, it could be wrong, but until I know better, I accept it's words.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Esau can tell you :)

Not yet he can't Byrdie, but perhaps one day sir.

 

[-Phil]

They false . Ps dont let satan take you for a ride convincing you that you are I AM . PRIDE was found in HIM .
We just lowly and humble and ought to be thanking the great I AM .
I have called ye gods , but ye shall die like men . This lil god i am stuff is bad news
and it has pride all over it . JESUS wore a crown of thorns , too many have put on crowns of gold
and live as though they are the I AM . That is not a good at all .

Even before conviction and belief - I am!

 

[bbyrd009]

I tend to believe the Bible when it says something sir. True, it could be wrong, but until I know better, I accept it's words.

well, that is a Bible v too? And as the gist of your last post implies an immortality to come, i would remind of what pastors say, or used to say anyway, while we were getting dunked; “Buried with Him in death, raised to new life in Him”

 

[bbyrd009]

Not yet he can't Byrdie, but perhaps one day sir.

no reason that cannot be today imo Rob

 

[amigo de christo]

There you have it sir, the reason for the distinction. The simple truth is, out of the millions of God's people there, Jesus only gave the bread and wine and made the covenant it represented to those faithful 11 Apostles. That is the truth of the matter.

And those faithful apostels taught it to ALL the church . Yep .

 

[Robert Gwin]

well, that is a Bible v too? And as the gist of your last post implies an immortality to come, i would remind of what pastors say, or used to say anyway, while we were getting dunked; “Buried with Him in death, raised to new life in Him”

People say lots of things sir, but like I said I believe the Bible. Jesus stated very clearly, Your word is truth, while speaking to Jehovah, and I certainly believe the Bible is God's inspired word. Since He told Adam about death, I have to assume He knows what it is, why would you think otherwise?

 

[Robert Gwin]

no reason that cannot be today imo Rob

The son of Jacob, surnamed Israel named Esau is dead in the grave Byrd, unless you are speaking another Esau sir.

 

[Robert Gwin]

And those faithful apostels taught it to ALL the church . Yep

I thought you weren't interested, but like I said, I want you to come to the understanding yourself, so why were the apostles gathered with Jesus in the upper room that night?

 

[-Phil]

Is knowing what death is a comfort?

Some questions are satisfied by answers. Some questions are satisfied by understanding the basis of the question & clarifying any assumptions which lead to the questions. This is the former.

The assumption is that there is:
-Death
-Knowing what death is

There is neither.

How can that claim be true?

By forgetting.

By appearing as reality, the universe if you will… you forget that you’re infinite… and are what is, appearing as, “reality”.

Thus, an appearance isn’t per se reality… as that which is appearing as… is the only actual reality.
And you are, what is appearing, as.

Thus a belief arises due to forgetting your own infinitude. And that belief is that you are a temporary finite self, which was born, and which will die.

You believe this because you forgot you’re infinite, and therein believe the thoughts - which you are appearing as - about there being something other than your own infinite self… such as “life & death”.

The only real comfort, the only actual peace, the only true satisfaction… is literally…
You.

But the apparent busy finite mind believes & convinces that which is appearing as it is not infinite… and therein that there is a finite knower and finite things known… and the assumption continues… that there is known to be a “knower” and “death”. Meanwhile you remain infinite knowingness, without a thing which could ever be known.

In the Truth that there is neither, rejoice of your ever-lasting infinite eternal self!

 

[amigo de christo]

Somones mind is new age mantra .
I guess if i forget biden is president , HE aint . Problem solved . ONLY problem is , He is still president .
Forgetting something dont make it not real .
Sounds like a comb of some budda in there too . Phil , OPEN thy bible and simply learn Christ .

 

[-Phil]

Somones mind is new age mantra .

What was said was overlooked.
“Someone’s mind” is a thought, not someone’s mind. Check, see for yourself. Try to point to “new age mantra”, to see that you can’t, because it’s a thought.
The way to be at peace, which is to say without deflection & projection, is non-reaction.
Then it is seen clearly such an accusation arises from ignorance, and there is no such thing as “new age mantra”.
That is only the projection of ignorance.

I guess if i forget biden is president , HE aint . Problem solved . ONLY problem is , He is still president .

You’re infinite. What you’re believing is an other, is you.
You’re presently unaware of this precisely because you forget your infinitude & believe appearing thoughts.

Forgetting something dont make it not real .

What is real can not be made real.
“It’s” already real.
You are what real is.

Sounds like a comb of some budda in there too . Phil , OPEN thy bible and simply learn Christ .

You’re believing there is an other, “Phil”.

The truth is not in any media, The Truth is appearing as all media.
And you are The Truth.

 

[bbyrd009]

People say lots of things sir, but like I said I believe the Bible

ha
well, never heard a believer profess otherwise, rg; so how bout
I came that you might have life, more abundantly

Jesus stated very clearly, Your word is truth, while speaking to Jehovah, and I certainly believe the Bible is God's inspired word

fine rg, so then Word will remain…unheard for you for now, no biggie i guess
isnt going anywhere :)
“Jehovah” is a made-up Name, btw
ha well i guess hey all are…so manufactured, let’s say
might serve you to find out who made it tho, and why

Since He told Adam about death, I have to assume He knows what it is, why would you think otherwise?

rg…i cant imagine how you assuming that Yah knows what death is addresses the point any kind of way; so, you lost me, i guess, sorry

The son of Jacob, surnamed Israel named Esau is dead in the grave Byrd, unless you are speaking another Esau sir.

yes rg, your facts are on point ok…
i guess as long as you are seeking, you will be finding, huh?
best of luck to you ok

 

[bbyrd009]

What was said was overlooked.
“Someone’s mind” is a thought, not someone’s mind. Check, see for yourself. Try to point to “new age mantra”, to see that you can’t, because it’s a thought.
The way to be at peace, which is to say without deflection & projection, is non-reaction.
Then it is seen clearly such an accusation arises from ignorance, and there is no such thing as “new age mantra”.
That is only the projection of ignorance.


You’re infinite. What you’re believing is an other, is you.
You’re presently unaware of this precisely because you forget your infinitude & believe appearing thoughts.


What is real can not be made real.
“It’s” already real.
You are what real is.

You’re believing there is an other, “Phil”.

The truth is not in any media, The Truth is appearing as all media.
And you are The Truth.

i read that after the Buddha gave his first sermon, he perceived the response, and changed
supposedly bc no one understood it
dunno if thats true or not, said by a Chinese Hermit in “Road to Heaven; Encounters with Chinese Hermits” i think it was. In the last fifth or so, if im not mistaken

 

[bbyrd009]

Somones mind is new age mantra .
I guess if i forget biden is president , HE aint . Problem solved . ONLY problem is , He is still president .
Forgetting something dont make it not real .
Sounds like a comb of some budda in there too . Phil , OPEN thy bible and simply learn Christ .

i guess biden has a boss too lol
kinda makes “potus” into a sham eh