Is knowing what death is a comfort?

[bbyrd009]

What was said was overlooked.
“Someone’s mind” is a thought, not someone’s mind. Check, see for yourself. Try to point to “new age mantra”, to see that you can’t, because it’s a thought.
The way to be at peace, which is to say without deflection & projection, is non-reaction.
Then it is seen clearly such an accusation arises from ignorance, and there is no such thing as “new age mantra”.
That is only the projection of ignorance.


You’re infinite. What you’re believing is an other, is you.
You’re presently unaware of this precisely because you forget your infinitude & believe appearing thoughts.


What is real can not be made real.
“It’s” already real.
You are what real is.

You’re believing there is an other, “Phil”.

The truth is not in any media, The Truth is appearing as all media.
And you are The Truth.

ps, the book was a yawn, dont bother imo
except for that one quote, which may not even be true

 

[Robert Gwin]

ha
well, never heard a believer profess otherwise, rg; so how bout
I came that you might have life, more abundantly
fine rg, so then Word will remain…unheard for you for now, no biggie i guess
isnt going anywhere :)
“Jehovah” is a made-up Name, btw
ha well i guess hey all are…so manufactured, let’s say
might serve you to find out who made it tho, and why
rg…i cant imagine how you assuming that Yah knows what death is addresses the point any kind of way; so, you lost me, i guess, sorry
yes rg, your facts are on point ok…
i guess as long as you are seeking, you will be finding, huh?
best of luck to you ok

Acts 17:11; Rom 10:13; 2 Thes 1:6-9; 1 Thes 5:21 Same to you Byrd, we have to choose to stand on Jehovah's side sir, it is not automatic.

 

[bbyrd009]

Acts 17:11; Rom 10:13; 2 Thes 1:6-9; 1 Thes 5:21 Same to you Byrd, we have to choose to stand on Jehovah's side sir, it is not automatic.

"Jehovah" is a Masoretic pious contrivance that means nothing to me, RG, sorry

 

[bbyrd009]

"Jehovah" is a Masoretic pious contrivance that means nothing to me, RG, sorry

which i dont mean to be so...short, sorry...
its just that see YHWH--which is a transliteration, not a translation, right--is meant to be unpronounceable anyway, see;
so when i hear "Jehovah" its like this corporation has more or less dumbed it down for mass consumption, or something like that?
anyway fwiw AEOU would be a prolly decent translation, personally i use Yah (or Aou) :)

 

[-Phil]

ps, the book was a yawn, dont bother imo
except for that one quote, which may not even be true

You might have to bring me up to speed… what book?

 

[Adam]

Is knowing what death is a comfort?

Some questions are satisfied by answers. Some questions are satisfied by understanding the basis of the question & clarifying any assumptions which lead to the questions. This is the former.

The assumption is that there is:
-Death
-Knowing what death is

There is neither.

How can that claim be true?

By forgetting.

By appearing as reality, the universe if you will… you forget that you’re infinite… and are what is, appearing as, “reality”.

Thus, an appearance isn’t per se reality… as that which is appearing as… is the only actual reality.
And you are, what is appearing, as.

Thus a belief arises due to forgetting your own infinitude. And that belief is that you are a temporary finite self, which was born, and which will die.

You believe this because you forgot you’re infinite, and therein believe the thoughts - which you are appearing as - about there being something other than your own infinite self… such as “life & death”.

The only real comfort, the only actual peace, the only true satisfaction… is literally…
You.

But the apparent busy finite mind believes & convinces that which is appearing as it is not infinite… and therein that there is a finite knower and finite things known… and the assumption continues… that there is known to be a “knower” and “death”. Meanwhile you remain infinite knowingness, without a thing which could ever be known.

In the Truth that there is neither, rejoice of your ever-lasting infinite eternal self!

Beware you, this is the gospel of Satan.

If you are all that exists, if you are infinite and equal to God, then the scope of this experience is therefore the highest one can attain to, and you are also therefore forever alone and forever wandering through clouded dreams without hope except to comfort yourself with illusions of materiality. Therefore - be glad you are not God. Without something higher than yourself to serve, you are truly nothing.

Isaiah 14​

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Matthew 23
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

You are just a wave on the sea, but you are not the sea. You are a triangle on the grid, but you are not the grid. If you believe you are all that there is, then your fall will be great. So lift the veil of darkness from your eyes, one cannot give themselves wisdom, or love, or hope, yet these things exist, and thus necessarily find their origin in something outside of you. You cannot claim to represent the totality of existence, when you have robbed existence of its most essential elements.

 

[-Phil]

Beware you, this is the gospel of Satan.

No, it’s a comment on a forum.
Beware means be aware.
What is aware?

 

[Adam]

No, it’s a comment on a forum.
Beware means be aware.
What is aware?

Awareness is this:

"When I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise, although he was thought wise by many, and wiser still by himself; and I went and tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise; and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me. So I left him, saying to myself, as I went away: Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better off than he is - for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him."

"I am called wise, for my hearers always imagine that I myself possess the wisdom which I find wanting in others: but the truth is, O men of Athens, that God only is wise; and in this oracle he means to say that the wisdom of men is little or nothing; he is not speaking of Socrates, he is only using my name as an illustration, as if he said, He, O men, is the wisest, who, like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing."

-Apology, by Plato

True wisdom is humility. The root of all foolishness is the delusion of knowledge.

 

[bbyrd009]

You might have to bring me up to speed… what book?

i read that after the Buddha gave his first sermon, he perceived the response, and changed
supposedly bc no one understood it
dunno if thats true or not, said by a Chinese Hermit in “Road to Heaven; Encounters with Chinese Hermits” i think it was. In the last fifth or so, if im not mistaken

 

[-Phil]

Awareness is this:

Not what is awareness.
What is aware.

 

[Robert Gwin]

"Jehovah" is a Masoretic pious contrivance that means nothing to me, RG, sorry

I understand Byrd, it takes priority in my life however. Is there any way I can help you to see the importance of knowing His name?

 

[-Phil]

@bbyrd009
I presume we laugh together.
Much love!

 

[bbyrd009]

I understand Byrd, it takes priority in my life however. Is there any way I can help you to see the importance of knowing His name?

is there any way you might understand the significance of an Unpronounceable Name, esp since you apparently fancy yourself some sort of teacher

 

[Robert Gwin]

is there any way you might understand the significance of an Unpronounceable Name, esp since you apparently fancy yourself some sort of teacher

I can only recommend for your sake to pronounce it as best you can sir. Rom 10:13 Jehovah is not going to hold a speech impediment against anyone, would you discipline your child if they were incapable of pronouncing something correctly? Neither would God. What is important is making God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and using it as we have been from the beginning of human history.

 

[-Phil]

I can only recommend for your sake to pronounce it as best you can sir. Rom 10:13 Jehovah is not going to hold a speech impediment against anyone, would you discipline your child if they were incapable of pronouncing something correctly? Neither would God. What is important is making God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and using it as we have been from the beginning of human history.

He doesn’t have a speech impediment, nor is he incapable. You’re ‘using it’ to insult & demean, overlooking what’s being said.

 

[Adam]

Not what is awareness.
What is aware.

I understand what you are implying, that God is consciousness and as conscious beings we are therefore God.

Well - there is an easy way to test this - if you are God, go walk on water. If you sink as I suspect you will, then you can only conclude that you do not in fact have the ultimate will over reality and there is something higher than you.

Now, you might say - I could theoretically walk on water, but I still have attachments to the dream, there is a part of me that wants to sink, because I kind of like it here on Earth, and this attachment causes me to sink so I do not begin to wake up.

So if this were the case then simply think back to any time you were ever surprised by something - learning some information you genuinely thought impossible, or being unable to do something you genuinely thought possible. If your mind creates all things then your will and belief would make it impossible to ever be surprised or proven wrong. Yet I am sure that you, like anyone, has at some point in your life been astonished by something.

God is God and you are you. Just like my will is not your will, and you cannot control me with your mind; God's will is not your will and you cannot control God with your mind. What you might become in future ages remains to be seen, but don't mistake the creation for the creator.

 

[-Phil]

I understand what you are implying, that God is consciousness and as conscious beings we are therefore God.

What’s said is (simply) what’s said, nothing is implied, nothing is hidden - nothing need be added.

Well - there is an easy way to test this - if you are God, go walk on water.

I am.
If I walked on water, would ye not be conscious of?
What next for ye?
And next?
And next?
And next?
I am!

If you sink as I suspect you will, then you can only conclude that you do not in fact have the ultimate will over reality and there is something higher than you.

How could some thing be higher than I am?
Whatever said ‘higher something’ might be, is ye not also conscious of?
And another thing.
And another thing.
And another thing.
Still; I am!

Now, you might say - I could theoretically walk on water, but I still have attachments to the dream, there is a part of me that wants to sink, because I kind of like it here on Earth, and this attachment causes me to sink so I do not begin to wake up.

Attachments & earth are dreamt, as is water.
To see; find where all the different waters begin and end.
Likewise, the earth, the attachments & ye.

So if this were the case then simply think back to any time you were ever surprised by something - learning some information you genuinely thought impossible, or being unable to do something you genuinely thought possible. If your mind creates all things then your will and belief would make it impossible to ever be surprised or proven wrong. Yet I am sure that you, like anyone, has at some point in your life been astonished by something.

First, how can I leave Now when I am?
How can I go there when I am Here?
Has ye - in honesty - ever been there ye self?

God is God and you are you. Just like my will is not your will, and you cannot control me with your mind; God's will is not your will and you cannot control God with your mind. What you might become in future ages remains to be seen, but don't mistake the creation for the creator.

As sure as I am; creator-creating-creation.

 

[bbyrd009]

I can only recommend for your sake to pronounce it as best you can sir. Rom 10:13 Jehovah is not going to hold a speech impediment against anyone, would you discipline your child if they were incapable of pronouncing something correctly? Neither would God. What is important is making God's name known Jn 17:6,26 and using it as we have been from the beginning of human history.

i can only recommend, for your sake, that you understand why it should not be pronounced at all RG, but ty for your time here

 

[bbyrd009]

First, how can I leave Now when I am?
How can I go there when I am Here?

hmm, doesnt really address the point imo

 

[bbyrd009]

So if this were the case then simply think back to any time you were ever surprised by something - learning some information you genuinely thought impossible, or being unable to do something you genuinely thought possible. If your mind creates all things then your will and belief would make it impossible to ever be surprised or proven wrong. Yet I am sure that you, like anyone, has at some point in your life been astonished by something.

i think the counter-argument is that the surprise was the result of not being aware
dunno if thats true in every case though