I agree the word is for rebuke, correction and instructing !
It must be done in love.
Not all on here do so, and not for the benefit of the brethern but for their own self glory !
attacking another denomination are included in this rule.
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I agree the word is for rebuke, correction and instructing !
It must be done in love.
Not all on here do so, and not for the benefit of the brethern but for their own self glory !
amigo de christo
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It is if they are already absent from the body and present with the LORD .
We dont pray to those who are already gone . We dont pray to angels either .
This is blasphemy . I dont say it to be mean , I say it cause i am so worried for your soul and desire only good for you .
Pray to GOD in JESUS NAME . Its that simple . The CC must stop burning incense to statues and praying to mary
to saints to angels . There are other things too . I truly desire only good for the peoples .
You must flee that .
Lol, REALLY.
THE DEAD CANT PRAY AND THE RESURRECTION HASNT HAPPENED ....YET !
THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS DIED AND CAN BOTH HEAR AND ANSWER PRAYER IS .......JESUS !
amigo de christo
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Some might indeed do it for their own self glory . But i do it out of love for the brethren . It must be done .
too many are now overlooking truth for sake of fellowship and unity and that is bad news .
We were supposed to mark those who taught things CONTRARY to the doctrine and correct them and avoid them if they wont repent .
Many folks within the protestant realm no longer see the RCC as dangerous , they no longer see the deadly dangers of other cults .
Heck more and more no longer even think one has to BELEIVE IN JESUS to be saved . THEY are just finding common ground
with all now . THEY no longer see homsexuality as sin . ITS ALL ABOUT UNITY and lets find common ground .
THIS IS HOW folks FALL AWAY . We must correct and do so while there still be time to do so .
If i sought self glory , I WOULD not warn a tenth as much as i do , cause all that has cost me is Rebukes and persecution
and being seen as a monster . BUT I DO IT for the peoples . IT dont matter what happens to me , I had rather be hated
mocked , but tell the truth in hopes that some be saved , than to sit a king and have the priase of men . ITS ABOUT SOULS
not me . I desire the death of none . BUT I KNOW the RCC is dangerous , I KNOW many other things that are dangerous
and yet the churches are sucking it up . WELL i have to do something and if it costs me all , THEN SO BE IT
i die happy and GOD was glorified and perhaps some were saved . THAT is all that matters to me .
GOD called the worst of the worst when HE called me . I never deserved one ounce of HIS grace
but i am HAPPY FOR IT and will by HIS grace do all for the sake of others no matter the cost to me .
Philip James
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Hello Least,
Who said anything about asking the dead to pray for us?
My God is the God of the living!
Jesus told her, "I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live,
and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"
Pax et Bonum
Philip James
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Hello amigo,
I understand your intentions, and that you are woefully ignorant of the communion of the saints.
Which is why I continue to engage you in conversation despite your false accusations.
'Father forgive them, for they know not what they do'
Pax et Bonum
amigo de christo
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You are simply teaching as you yourself were taught by your own Churches tradtion .
I am just trying to help you all . You are in grave danger and i desire not your death but rather life for you .
Leave those tradtions that are contrary to the truth behind . Hurry .
Christianity is certainly about doctrines! If we are not allowed to discuss doctrines then what good is a forum? What's really sad is when mods attack those who they don't agree with, sometimes in private to hide their cowardly attacks, rather than discussing for all to witness.
I was referencing this convo between Amigo and this post as well as yours.
You did not clarify which righteous brothers . I am asumming he thinks you are Cat
ic. Are you ?If anyone prays to the DEAD, the grave is silient.
BarneyFife
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Philip James
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You did not clarify which righteous brothers . I am asumming he thinks you are Cat
If anyone prays to the DEAD, the grave is silient.
I am Catholic,
No one I know asks the DEAD to pray for them. Our brothers and sisters who have gone before us are very much alive!
Pax et Bonum
BarneyFife
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I have always found the fascination with Mary and the saints as rather odd.
It seems that people find various images or ideas appeal to them more so they find this way of thinking about God speaks to them.
My shock was to find in Sri Lanka I could not tell Hindus apart from Catholic believers.
When you see how easily people want their version of religion rather than Gods, you see its deception.
A stone idol is always a stone idol, or a statue of a saint, or a prayer spoken to someone who is dead, they are pointless.
Jesus calls us to call upon Him who is resurrected and our true Saviour and Lord.
If all Jesus is to many is self sacrifice and self punishment, little wonder the God who has no failings becomes fearful.
And this same God provides torment for the smallest of failings for which penance must be paid or confession or some
other balancing ritual.
So I wonder if this is anything more than lostness rather than blasphemy?
How many know the meaning of the words "the truth will set you free"?
God bless you
I totally believe in Jesus as God over death,hell and the grave.
At his second coming will be the resurrection of all that lived righteous, not those we supposed did.
I know NOT anyones heart so I cannot be the judge of who is saved and who is not.
I know THE WORD, NOT MAN is our standard for believing and living for God! Jesus is also our mediator in everyday life.
Yes, we can ask prayer from those whom claim a relationship with God. Everywhere is a forum for prayer even secular ones. All believers are not here and all here are not believers.
A interested question, if the dead are alive and can hear us, how are they less than God?
BarneyFife
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Many Christians, myself included, believe that the dead are asleep, as Jesus taught.
The book of Leviticus teaches that familiar spirits are not to be regarded, Phil. :)
It is not from ignorance that we speak.
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It's not our responsibility nor liability that anyone die in their sins. It's all in the Father's word.
No one comes to Christ unless the Father leads them. The natural man cannot understand the things of the spirit. Because they are spiritually discerned. And that only happens when God's spirit enters into those chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world.
If we encounter the obstinate who's allegiance is to their church, let it be. They've chosen. God has not.
Jesus said, go into all the world and spread the gospel. If you are not received by the people you meet,kick the dust from your feet and move on.
The Net is no different.
Do you think we'll see souls dragged kicking and screaming when arrived before the Bema seat?
Then why do we seek to accomplish that in text speak on forums such as these? Natural minds don't open by our labors at a keyboard. They can't.
1 Corinthians 3:11-15
For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
I disagree in the fact they are alive !
My mother was a very godly woman but she has NO POWER TO HELP ME. She has decayed and her soul waits for the call of JESUS, that is the only voice dead saints listen for.......Jesus's call to come up hither !
BarneyFife
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It is a good policy to avoid calling the standing of others with God into question. :)
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BarneyFife
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When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
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