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theefaith

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---Love others as I have loved you

---Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness

---bear one another's burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ.

---enter by the straight gate

---When you enter a room take the lowest place

---No one who looks back is worthy of Me.

---lose you life to save it.

how do you know?

also what is the second commandment from scripture please
 

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how do you know?

also what is the second commandment from scripture please

The second commandment: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is on the earth beneath or that is in the water below. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, responding to the transgression of fathers by dealing with children to the third and fourth generations of those who reject me, and showing covenant faithfulness to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."

Catholicism clearly violates this commandment!!! You have crucifixes that show Jesus as dead, still on the cross! There are images of Mary and the so-called "saints" all over the place. You bow down to them, serve them, and pray to them.
 
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The second commandment: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is on the earth beneath or that is in the water below. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous God, responding to the transgression of fathers by dealing with children to the third and fourth generations of those who reject me, and showing covenant faithfulness to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."

Catholicism clearly violates this commandment!!! You have crucifixes that show Jesus as dead, still on the cross! There are images of Mary and the so-called "saints" all over the place. You bow down to them, serve them, and pray to them.

where does scripture say that’s the second?

the first is ex 20:2-6
Second ex 20:7
Third ex 20:8

and images are not forbidden only graven images

scripture says Christ must be portrayed as crucified gal 3:1
 

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Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, or proposed for our belief by the apostles!
Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15
matt 18:17

Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5

Truth is immutable! Cannot change!

And same truths revealed by Christ and taught by the church are always believed and taught from the beginning when Christ taught his church in person! Jude 1:3 the faith once delivered to the saints or the deposit of faith eph 4:5 one faith!


Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!

The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14

Protestantism is the tradition of men!

no so called reformer was an apostle or has any authority from christ
theefaith, you are given to waffling!
 

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where does scripture say which is the 3rd or fourth????


Here ends the first commandment ex 20:2-6 and here begins the second ex 20:7

that’s not in scripture

ex 20 does not even say they are only Ten Commandments
KJV Deuteronomy 4:13
13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
 

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please explain you’re worship
And what day you supposedly worship

Worship is defined in dictionaries Faith.

We are Christians 24/7 but we are not worshipping 24/7. Worshiping God would be active when praying, attending meetings, literally doing something for God, bearing testimony, putting in a contribution, etc.
 

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please go to the praise forum and read in praise of the penny catechism,
then you will have a real catechism!

The web site I recommended wasn't designed for penny ante Christians. I'm
pretty sure the author had in mind much better spiritual quality than they.
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KJV Deuteronomy 4:13
13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

So there are ten
Why did s that not in ex 20
 

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Are you sure that’s all?
Jesus said this:
[18] And a ruler asked him, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"
[19] And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.
[20] You know the commandments: `Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'" Luke 18:18-20 RSV
 

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Worship is defined in dictionaries Faith.

We are Christians 24/7 but we are not worshipping 24/7. Worshiping God would be active when praying, attending meetings, literally doing something for God, bearing testimony, putting in a contribution, etc.

I think not!
 

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@theefaith you can prance around these boards and tell us that you are keeping all the commandment if you like, but we know that is impossible for man to do!

It was impossible for those under the Law! But they had something you don't have, they had an alter where they sacrificed the blood of an animal which represented faith in the Blood of Christ. That is where they found Grace and Mercy. That is no longer available for man now that we are under a New Covenant that Christ purchased with His Blood. In fact, God took the sacrifice from the Jews.

Yes, that's the Covenant that you deny!!!!! And also deny the one who gave it to us, Paul!!!!!!

You my friend, are standing naked before God in your sins without any hope at all!

Those under the Law were to do the best they could, and when they failed, they had that animal sacrifice to fall on for mercy. You with your half faith in your ability to keep the Commandments and half faith in the Grace of God, is no faith at all!

Now under this New Covenant anything less than 100% faith in Christ leaves you naked and guilty before God.

Did not James tell us that if are guilty of breaking one Commandment, you are guilty of all? Do you realize what that means? It means you are condemned by the Law to death, that is a Spiritual death, do you know what that means?

So if you are depending your ability to keep the Commandments you better go find an alter where God has established a priest to inspect your sacrifice and then offer it up for you in the Holy of Holies of the tabernacle.

Law keeping demands the ability to sacrifice the blood of animals (which represented Christ as the sacrifice) to stay in the Mercy and Grace of God.

Good Luck!
 
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The web site I recommended wasn't designed for penny ante Christians. I'm
pretty sure the author had in mind much better spiritual quality than they.
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read the catechism of the council of Trent or the catechism of pius X
Or the Baltimore catechism
 

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@theefaith you can prance around these boards and tell us that you are keeping all the commandment if you like, but we know that is impossible for man to do!

It was impossible for those under the Law! But they had something you don't have, they had an alter where they sacrificed the blood of an animal which represented faith in the Blood of Christ. That is where they found Grace and Mercy. That is no longer available for man now that we are under a New Covenant that Christ purchased with His Blood. In fact, God took the sacrifice from the Jews.

Yes, that's the Covenant that you deny!!!!! And also deny the one who gave it to us, Paul!!!!!!

You my friend, are standing naked before God in your sins without any hope at all!

Those under the Law were to do the best they could, and when they failed, they had that animal sacrifice to fall on for mercy. You with your half faith in your ability to keep the Commandments and half faith in the Grace of God, is no faith at all!

Now under this New Covenant anything less than 100% faith in Christ leaves you naked and guilty before God.

Did not James tell us that if are guilty of breaking one Commandment, you are guilty of all? Do you realize what that means? It means you are condemned by the Law to death, that is a Spiritual death, do you know what that means?

So if you are depending your ability to keep the Commandments you better go find an alter where God has established a priest to inspect your sacrifice and then offer it up for you in the Holy of Holies of the tabernacle.

Law keeping demands the ability to sacrifice the blood of animals (which represented Christ as the sacrifice) to stay in the Mercy and Grace of God.

Good Luck!

This is a well-intentioned post; I hope that theefaith reads it and accepts what you have said but -- I have my doubts. He has swallowed the Catholic denomination's doctrine 110% and posts its teachings regularly. He is clearly antisemitic (not realizing that Jesus was a Jew) and goes on and on about "ever virgin" Mary and how the Catholic denomination is "the church".

Still, I hope that your post and your prayers will have some effect.
 
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read the catechism of the council of Trent or the catechism of pius X Or the
Baltimore catechism

Neither is a good choice. They're chock full of Catholicism instead of
straight out of the New Testament like the site I recommend.

Go To:
Christ's Laws


BTW: I was a Catholic for 24 years. I'm not about to go back down that road
again. No sir-ee Bob; never again! Me and The Church are permanently parted.
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