The Pre-Trib Rapture

[Truth7t7]

Luke 12:
[51] Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

John.7
[43] So there was a division among the people because of him.

John 16:
[30] Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.



I don’t.



No.



I believe CHRIST provides “His people” (Exclusively the Converted IN CHRIST, Exclusively Christ’s Church) by providing an escape FROM ALL Wrath.

(Non-Converted believers, Non-Believers IN Christ Jesus, Non-Believers in God, are subject to suffer, the Lambs Wrath, the Devils Wrath...and should they continue DURING the Tribulation to NOT submit to Believe, Shall ultimately suffer Gods Wrath/ Jew, Tribesman or Gentile.)

(Here is During the Tribulation, Men confessing Belief, soul saved, Body killed. Even the Tribulation and Wrath of the Lamb, is called Great Tribulation, not only the end, Vials.)
Rev 7:
[14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Luke 21
[36] Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Accounted Worthy TO Escape? WHO?
CHRISTS Church, “ie The Converted”.

Heb 2
[3] How shall we (men) escape, if we (men)neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

"Escape" doesn't mean a John N. Darby pre-trib rapture to heaven, it's your imagination in assumption

 

[Taken]

Correction: Ellen G. White Followed The False Prediction Of William Miller In The 1844 Proclaimed Second Coming Of Jesus Christ

Quote Truth7t7 Post #1941 Below

You mean the false-prophetess (Ellen G. White) and her spiritism in self proclaimed 2,000 dreams and visions

The false prediction in the 1844 proclaimed second coming of Jesus Christ, let's cover that false prediction up and call it the (Investigative Judgement)

Perhaps her grave marking bearing the Occultism Egyptian Obelisk, straight out of Occultic Freemasonry

Jehovahs Witnesses founder,, (Charles Taze Russel) is buried under the Egyptian Pyramid and Capstone, also out of occultic Freemasonry

Ellen White ~ “quote”
“Make Christ first and last and best in everything.”
To me: Reveals with her words, her standing.
Not particularly news; Over zealous Believers mix their Beliefs and Opinions. Individuals can accept the whole or verify her Beliefs and ignore her opinions.
If individuals converted IN Christ, because of her preaching, I say, Amen.

Who cares where “C. T. Russel” is buried?

Do you think there is an evil thing about “pyramids”...
Because they ARE “pyramids” or Because they WERE part of Egyptian Culture and you ARE anti- anything of Egyptian culture?
Can’t speak for you, Just curious, why a “pyramid” concerns you.

Freemasonry - Why/How did you decide that is a “occultic” brotherhood?

 

[n2thelight]

Or just accept Christians are already going through tribulation, and even to the point of death. So after this, the Second Coming will happen.

Those left at the Second Coming, will have to endure to the point of being beheaded. But they certainly are not the church enjoying Paradise.

What's the fear in being beheaded?
Who gonna be left at the 2nd coming ?

 

[Taken]

@Taken It seems to me that the passages in Matthew 24 (and similarly Luke 21) about the wrath of of God on earth seem not to refer to the church, which by then will have been raptured.

What the church does indeed face is the general principle of tribulation, as in: "In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world" (John 16:33).

Agree.

Well said.

 

[Taken]

"Escape" doesn't mean a John N. Darby pre-trib rapture to heaven, it's your imagination in assumption

I did not mention Darby, why are you?

Escape is expressly Biblical. Why are you avoiding Scripture?

 

[Truth7t7]

Ellen White ~ “quote”
“Make Christ first and last and best in everything.”
To me: Reveals with her words, her standing.
Not particularly news; Over zealous Believers mix their Beliefs and Opinions. Individuals can accept the whole or verify her Beliefs and ignore her opinions.
If individuals converted IN Christ, because of her preaching, I say, Amen.

Who cares where “C. T. Russel” is buried?

Do you think there is an evil thing about “pyramids”...
Because they ARE “pyramids” or Because they WERE part of Egyptian Culture and you ARE anti- anything of Egyptian culture?
Can’t speak for you, Just curious, why a “pyramid” concerns you.

Freemasonry - Why/How did you decide that is a “occultic” brotherhood?

Freemasonry is the occult, it appears you are ignorant of many things

 

[Phoneman777]

I usually find that people find a need to end the discussion because they can't deal with being wrong. That is truly the difference between us. If you can prove me wrong, it means I've learned something. That, to me, is a positive. I read where you threatened to block another poster. How will you learn anything when you block those that challenge your beliefs? That's a weakness, not a strength. You will never learn anything by taking your toys and going home. Defend what you believe, and if it is wrong.....change what you believe. Rest well.

I can put up with insult, disrespect, and even crazy opinions and interpretations but what I can't abide is lies and/or false facts which stubbornly remain on the table when shown to be such, especially when they are intended to discredit others. I think you'll agree that's pretty good grounds for showing someone the door.

 

[Phoneman777]

Or just accept Christians are already going through tribulation, and even to the point of death. So after this, the Second Coming will happen.

Those left at the Second Coming, will have to endure to the point of being beheaded. But they certainly are not the church enjoying Paradise.

If Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism was true and people who were fully convinced they were saved like the OSAS crowd got left behind, you don't think their entire world would be shattered into a bazillion pieces? They would absolutely be destroyed. In their "disillusioned" state, they'd desperately be looking around in the midst of chaos for answers, and eventually wind up running straight into the arms of the "angel of light" Lucifer who's come to impersonate Jesus.

We post-tribbers would simply quote, "If they say He's in the desert, go not forth. If they say He's in the secret (rapture) chambers, believe it not."

 

[Taken]

Freemasonry is the occult, it appears you are ignorant of many things

Your agenda is repeating your Opinions, without any basis for your Opinions.

 

[Phoneman777]

No, it doesn't. Show us anything from the bible about the mark being related to Sunday worship.

The Bible teaches it implicitly and anyone who has eyes to see can do so easily:

>The unMarked are clearly identified as those who "keep the commandments of God" which means the Marked don't, and the only commandment end times Christians say we're free to forget is the only one which begins with "Remember".

>God wanted His law to go into the hand and forehead - Satan counterfeits that with his Mark going into the hand or forehead.

>Psalms 94 which depicts the time just before the appearance of Christ plainly says Satan is going to "frame mischief by a law" as he did in the case of Daniel, the 3 Hebrew worthies, Esther, the Dark Ages, etc.

>If you want to know what is the Beast's Mark, simply ask the Beast:

The First Beast of Revelation 13 - universally identified from Scripture as the "Papacy" and preached as such for over three hundred years from every Protestant pulpit, Seminary, Bible College, small group gathering by thunderous speech, printed word, spiritual songs and hymns, Morse code, telegraph, smoke signal, and whatever other means of communication available - claims for itself a "Mark of it's ecclesiastical authority in religious matters" - Sunday:

"Sunday is our Mark of authority. The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact."

Perhaps the boldest, the most revolutionary change the church ever did happened in the (4th) century. The Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday, not from any direction given in the Scriptures, but from the Church's own sense of divine power. People who think the Bible alone should be their guide should logically become Seventh-day Adventists and keep Saturday holy".

"Reason and common sense demand the one or the other of the two alternatives. Either Protestantism and the keeping holy of Saturday or Catholicity and the keeping holy of Sunday: Compromise is impossible."

"I have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says, 'Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says: 'No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.' And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church."

Read every blasphemous word here: https://www.sabbath.org/index.cfm/f...holic-protestant-confessions-about-sunday.htm
​

 

[Taken]

If Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism was true and people who were fully convinced they were saved like the OSAS crowd got left behind, you don't think their entire world would be shattered into a bazillion pieces? They would absolutely be destroyed. In their "disillusioned" state, they'd desperately be looking around in the midst of chaos for answers, and eventually wind up running straight into the arms of the "angel of light" Lucifer who's come to impersonate Jesus.

We post-tribbers would simply quote, "If they say He's in the desert, go not forth. If they say He's in the secret (rapture) chambers, believe it not."

Hi Phoneman,

Inanutshell...
* men on earth experience tribulation routinely.
* Gods Tribulation is expressed as Great.
* Gods Tribulation point is not much different than mens tribulations...
Meaning...
~ men get angry, men get angry over being rejected, over not being believed, over believing other things, etc.
~ men express their anger, with all kinds of wrath.
~ God as well, gets angry over being rejected, not believed, and has warned, He Shall express His Wrath upon the whole Earth and it’s inhabitants....less they BE WITH Him in Agreement, and He provides a ‘protection or escape’ For them.

* God already once was Greatly angered, and Sent His Great Tribulations and Wrath to Earth, to destroy the Earth and its inhabitants.
* A few animals, and 8 persons Saved “From” Gods First Great Tribulations and Wrath.

* Do you recall HOW those 8 were Saved FROM Gods Great Tribulation and Wrath? And Why?
* They were Lifted Up off the face of the Earth, while the Earth and the inhabitants ON the face of the Earth were destroyed.

Nothing new under the sun brother. What was shall be again.
(Ecc 1:19)
Some will prepare, as Noah did. Some will ignore, Some will be caught off guard because there will be no escape ON Earth, for men to “keep” their body alive.

Matters not IF you believe, WHEN the Lord shall gather Christ’s Church, or WHEN God shall gather Israel...
What does matter is IF you (and any other), IS Prepared, which hinges on Confessed Belief unto the Lord God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Brakelite]

No, the idea is that as a pre-tribber, I'm setting myself up for beast worship when the rapture doesn't happen. What a load of you know what!

Much love!

And if the Antichrist is already here, and has been for 1500 years, and you've failed to not only recognize him, but are surrendered to His authority in some areas already, what of the future when all hell breaks loose and confusion reigns globally?

 

[Phoneman777]

Matthew 18:21-22KJV
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Correction to my post #1941 Below

Correction: Ellen G. White Followed The False Prediction Of William Miller In The 1844 Proclaimed Second Coming Of Jesus Christ

Quote Truth7t7 Post #1941 Below

You mean the false-prophetess (Ellen G. White) and her spiritism in self proclaimed 2,000 dreams and visions

The false prediction in the 1844 proclaimed second coming of Jesus Christ, let's cover that false prediction up and call it the (Investigative Judgement)

Perhaps her grave marking bearing the Occultism Egyptian Obelisk, straight out of Occultic Freemasonry

Jehovahs Witnesses founder,, (Charles Taze Russel) is buried under the Egyptian Pyramid and Capstone, also out of occultic Freemasonry

Thank you for acknowledging the prediction of the coming of Christ in 1844 was not based on a false prophetic revelation from God, but merely an incorrect interpretation of already existing prophetic passages of Scripture.

Now, if you're going to condemn Miller and his followers for mistakenly interpreting the Word of God - then you must condemn the disciples of Jesus who were told plainly by Him that He was the "Messiah" of Scripture which Daniel said would be "cut off" -- but they remained convinced that His mission was to elevate Israel to national greatness above the other nations, and stood frozen with fear and bitterly disappointed together Sunday morning, including doubting Thomas.

Are you prepared to condemn them, as well?

 

[Phoneman777]

Hi Phoneman,

Inanutshell...
* men on earth experience tribulation routinely.
* Gods Tribulation is expressed as Great.
* Gods Tribulation point is not much different than mens tribulations...
Meaning...
~ men get angry, men get angry over being rejected, over not being believed, over believing other things, etc.
~ men express their anger, with all kinds of wrath.
~ God as well, gets angry over being rejected, not believed, and has warned, He Shall express His Wrath upon the whole Earth and it’s inhabitants....less they BE WITH Him in Agreement, and He provides a ‘protection or escape’ For them.

* God already once was Greatly angered, and Sent His Great Tribulations and Wrath to Earth, to destroy the Earth and its inhabitants.
* A few animals, and 8 persons Saved “From” Gods First Great Tribulations and Wrath.

* Do you recall HOW those 8 were Saved FROM Gods Great Tribulation and Wrath? And Why?
* They were Lifted Up off the face of the Earth, while the Earth and the inhabitants ON the face of the Earth were destroyed.

Nothing new under the sun brother. What was shall be again.
(Ecc 1:19)
Some will prepare, as Noah did. Some will ignore, Some will be caught off guard because there will be no escape ON Earth, for men to “keep” their body alive.

Matters not IF you believe, WHEN the Lord shall gather Christ’s Church, or WHEN God shall gather Israel...
What does matter is IF you (and any other), IS Prepared, which hinges on Confessed Belief unto the Lord God.

Glory to God,
Taken

Jesus did say we're to know if it's at the door.

 

[Taken]

@marks etal, long but in brief.

Bunches of beliefs, views, opinions, finger pointing.
Don’t care about this guy, that guy, this group, that group...irrelevant.
Big Picture IS about an Individuals relationship WITH or WITHOUT the Lord God Almighty.

* Pre-Tribulation Rapture...is a belief that:
* Before Gods Tribulation and Wrath comes down from Heaven upon the whole world and it’s inhabitants, there is an Escape expressly for those;
...already forgiven, physically bodily dead, soul saved, spirit quickened.
...already forgiven, bodily dead, crucified with Jesus, soul saved, spirit quickened.
* The term Rapture, English from other languages, exclusive, meaning “caught up”, not Subject to Wrath.

* Everyone experiences Tribulations and wrath’s.
* Gods Tribulations and Wrath’s are Always revealed “Great”, Great Destruction, Great Turmoil, Great number of Deaths.

During Gods Great “last” Tribulation, it is a mix of Great Destruction, Turmoil......AND......Great Revival, Great saving.
* the Great Revival is particularly geared toward “THE VERY SAME”, that God sent “the Son of man” to; (2,000+ years ago).Jews and ISRAEL, Gods People.
^ They Heard, some believed, some believed then deflected, many returned to their synagogues and their Mosaic Laws, with a tiny problem, NO Temple to fulfill their yearly “animal blood sacrifice” For sin forgiveness. Today, ALL “preparations” ARE ALL READY, to build and fill a new Temple according to Scriptural requirements. The “hold up”, is the exact Site as where the Temple will be constructed.

Regarding the “new” Temple, I believe IF and WHEN a Site is selected and we begin to SEE that building coming into fruition; Gods Great Tribulation, beginning with; the Wrath of the Lamb, of the (SEALS), will be notice of a sign, Gods Tribulation is at the door step.
* It IS a slap in the Face of Jesus, rejecting Him, His Blood.
* And WHY the Lamb is angry, and WHY the Wrath from Heaven Begins with the Lamb.
* Remember, the Jews and Israel FIRST knew of Jesus, He their Savior, He their Christ Messiah, and Broadly They have Reject Him.
* And it is THEY who will build a Temple, that Jesus destroyed, as no longer necessary, to sacrifice ANIMALS and “their” Blood.
* And remember, God already promised to SAVE His people, ISRAEL.
(Sends 144,000 virgin tribesmen to teach the tribes the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Sends two witnesses to the Jews in Jerusalem to teach the Jews the gospel of Jesus Christ....
As God always planned...Tribesmen, Jews, teaching their own.)
* They turn to belief...THEN are bodily killed...soul SAVED...body’s rot, wait for resurrection in glory.

We already KNOW, (regarding @Phoneman777 point)...EVIL Spirits roam the earth. WICKED men adopt conniving, underhanded, dealings, that sound good, but have devastating outcomes. YES in the end DAYS, that SHALL occur. We can observe the current World’s wide advocacy of World “power sitters”, Agenda’s putting in motion, exactly what Phoneman IS talking about, and Scripture reveals.
It’s a forewarning. It shall occur. Even in the baby stages we can observe now, GAGS me. And those people ‘jumping on board’ are in plain view of men, and God!

The UN “power sitters”, are IN agreement. They will backstab each other trying to be the ONE seated “world leader”.
I believe the ultimate spot will be occupied someone from the Middle East.
My opinion, via Scriptural study, and observance of the Spiritual Agreement set in motion between the Pope, widely viewed the influential spokesman for “world’s Christianity community” and the Popes meetings and agreements struck WITH Islamic imam’s ...
And the already new verbiage, “Chrislam”. (Check out their 2022 agenda already underway, Chrisalm agenda 2022).

That reverts back to the “new” Jewish TEMPLE. Who will agree, allow, the new Temple to be constructed, without threat of Islamic interference?
IS the building of a “new” Temple Scriptural ? I believe in Scripture, of end days, a TEMPLE in context of an actual Temple is revealed. No hoopla about it’s Construction, but that it exists. If it exists, where did it come from? Because presently there is not one in existence.
(Not sure if...the agenda Chrislam 2022, incorporates the “new” Temple agenda of Israelites) ?? Appears to me, it does not include Jewish Israel.

And WHO, shall sit as world “leader”...UN election.
WHO, shall suffer a “mortal wound”, but a moral man? UN’s pick.
WHO, has the power to enter a morals body? Satan
WHO, shall appear miraculously as having been mortally Dead, and then Recovered...”world Leader”.
WHO, shall see that? Entire world (internet)
WHO, shall stand in Gods Temple (new construction), and declare Himself ...to be God? Spirit of Satan in a mortal mans dead body.
WHO, shall Believe it? Millions. (And subject to Gods Wrath)
Rev: TRUMPS, VIALS.
WHO, shall Not Believe it? Millions (And subject to Satans Wrath)
Rev 14:14

End of days ON Earth, The Spirits that Be, are Dividing up those WITH and AGAINST them.

Tangent things destroyed, Lands burned and Barron, Famines, water polluted, Millions of Bodily Deaths, Putrid Gaging Stench And Disease...

AND again...ANYONE...?? WHY is God, or the Lamb of God, ANGRY at men WHO,
Willingly laid down their life in death, with Jesus, received Gods forgiveness, received Gods restoration of their soul, received Gods Holy Spirit, received Gods Seed and Quickening of their spirit, they (Called the Converted IN CHRIST, Christs Church) .... That God requires THEM, who DID exactly as He asked....to be ON EARTH experiencing WRATH, TRIBULATIONS, sent down from Heaven AND the HORRIFIC PUTRID Effects thereof?

IS there something ELSE, besides;
Forgiveness, a man heartful confessed word of Belief, a mans life, a mans soul, a mans spirit...
A converted man needs be ON Earth, during Gods Great Tribulation and Wrath?

CURIOUS.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Michiah-Imla]

We are waiting for Christ’s coming:

“…waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Corinthians 1:7)

Christ is coming after the tribulation:

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days …they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” (Matthew 24:29-30)

Then the rapture happens:

“…For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven …and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17)

Don’t let long posts with big words fool you into believing otherwise *than what is plainly written in the Bible.

[*edited spelling error: “that” changed to “than”]

 

[Timtofly]

Today, all of the temple blocks lie in ruins - nothing is yet "upon another", right?

That is not even what was said in Scripture. They were pointing out all the buildings that Herod built. The whole complex.

"And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things?

What is all these things? One building?

 

[Timtofly]

It just stands to reason that the brightness of Jesus will light up the sky for all to see before He even gets close to Earth, but you can bet as soon as He in the clouds, every sinner who spotted His approach will have dropped dead by then.

No, because all the church will be heading upward also shining as bright as the stars. That is just the beginning of judgment. No one knows when the Second Coming will happen, and what happens after the Second Coming is that Jesus and the angels carry out the final harvest on earth after the Second Coming. It is not all over at that moment. It is just getting started. They will not die that day. Satan's 42 months does not even start that day. No one knows the length of the Trumpets and Thunders. It certainly is not 7 years, nor only 12 hours.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Bible teaches it implicitly and anyone who has eyes to see can do so easily:

>The unMarked are clearly identified as those who "keep the commandments of God" which means the Marked don't, and the only commandment end times Christians say we're free to forget is the only one which begins with "Remember".

>God wanted His law to go into the hand and forehead - Satan counterfeits that with his Mark going into the hand or forehead.

>Psalms 94 which depicts the time just before the appearance of Christ plainly says Satan is going to "frame mischief by a law" as he did in the case of Daniel, the 3 Hebrew worthies, Esther, the Dark Ages, etc.

>If you want to know what is the Beast's Mark, simply ask the Beast:

The First Beast of Revelation 13 - universally identified from Scripture as the "Papacy" and preached as such for over three hundred years from every Protestant pulpit, Seminary, Bible College, small group gathering by thunderous speech, printed word, spiritual songs and hymns, Morse code, telegraph, smoke signal, and whatever other means of communication available - claims for itself a "Mark of it's ecclesiastical authority in religious matters" - Sunday:

"Sunday is our Mark of authority. The Church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact."

Perhaps the boldest, the most revolutionary change the church ever did happened in the (4th) century. The Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday, not from any direction given in the Scriptures, but from the Church's own sense of divine power. People who think the Bible alone should be their guide should logically become Seventh-day Adventists and keep Saturday holy".

"Reason and common sense demand the one or the other of the two alternatives. Either Protestantism and the keeping holy of Saturday or Catholicity and the keeping holy of Sunday: Compromise is impossible."

"I have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says, 'Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says: 'No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.' And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church."

Read every blasphemous word here: https://www.sabbath.org/index.cfm/f...holic-protestant-confessions-about-sunday.htm
​

"No" Sunday observance isn't the mark of the beast as false prophetess (Ellen G. White) taught and you believe and teach

Scripture below "Clearly Teaches" those that break the commandments will be least in the kingdom, they aren't the condemned who have received the mark of the beast

Just another 7th Day Adventist "False Teaching", right along with "Soul Sleep" and the "Investigative Judgement"

Hard to believe a person could follow a woman (Ellen G. White), who claimed to have 2,000 dreams and visions?

Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy is more believable, and that's the truth!

Matthew 5:19KJV
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[marks]

We Disagree, Scripture Below Clearly Teaches The Church Will Be Present On Earth To Witness The "Apostasy" and "Man Of Sin" revealed

Willful Disregard In Personal Bias For A Pre-Trib Rapture, It's That Simple

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4KJV
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

It's not there. The passage does not tell us the church will be present at that time.

Much love!