Bible alone

[BreadOfLife]

The church is the body of Christ...
1 Corinthians 12:21, "For just as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body—though many—are one body, so too is Christ."
1 Corinthians 12:27, "Now you are Christ’s body, and each of you is a member of it."
... it is not any one denomination.

The Bible - which YOU claim to be our SOLE Authority teaches against factions/denominations (1 cor. 3:4-7).
It teaches that the Church is to remain ONE - as Jesus and the Father are ONE (John 17:20-23).

Sooooo - why are there lliterally tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestannt factions that ALL teach different doctrines yet ALL claim to be part of the "ONE" Church?

I have news for you: the teachings of the Catholic church (and there are many of them) that depart from the teachings of the Bible, the word of God, are nothing more than men's teachings. If it's not in the Bible, it is the invention of men.

He told the leaders of His Church that whoever listened to or rejected THEM listed to HIM and the ONE who sent Him. That is why we have the Bible: the infallible word of God written by the apostles and prophets.

Here are just some of the things that are not in the Bible...

The Catholic denomination
The Pope
Cardinals
Mary "ever virgin"
Peter was the first Pope
Praying to dead people
Permission for the Crusades
Permission for the Inquisitions

Calling any man "father" Matthew 23:9, " And call no one your ‘father’ on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven."

The absolution of sins by saying x number of Hail Mary prayers
etc., etc. etc.

The Bible -- the writings of the prophets and apostles -- is the infallible word of God!

The Cathollic Church isn't a "denomination".
It's the Original Tree fro which Protestantism splintered - and continues to splinter to this day.We can go over SOME of the things you listed that aren't blatant lies.

Most of what you listed shows me that you have a small child's understandoing of Catholic doctrine.
Actually - I take that back., I don't want to insult small children that way . . .

Sola scriptura!

And so far - you have FAILED to show a verse that supports this fallacy . . .

 

[Marine0311]

Where is the false papacy ? Yes, that would be Rome hence the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes it is a flimsy example, but you got the point. and the church is not an institution or sect, but every believer in all sects who belong to HIm.

And I know that I am part of the Bride of Christ!

Jesus said HIS Church is ONE (John 17:20-23).

He said that HIS Church is a visible entity (Matt. 5:14) - NOT a splintered gaggle of disjointed factions with copmpeting doctrines.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yep Differences, yet allowed under the same umbrella, financial support, and numbers game...

You are not the exclusive spokesman for Catholicism. Like you individual Catholics speak for themselves, everything from “born Catholic” to “worshiping statues”, even some saying, “they are not Christian, they are Catholic”. Not my problem your church is splintered and some do not get the memo of WHAT they ARE supposed to believe.

REALLY??

Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not.
Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not.
Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not.
Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not.
Some believe in doctrine of “once saved, always saved”, while others do not.
Some believe in a pre-tribulation “Rapture”, while others do not.
Some believe that only those who were predestined will make it to heaven, while others do not.
Some believe that some were predestined for hell, while others do not.
Some believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, while others do not.
Some believe that practicing homosexuality is a sin, while others do not.
Most believe in contraception, while others do not – and the list goes on . . .

Some of these differences are essential doctrines.
Soooo - WHO is right and WHO is wrong?

 

[savedbygrace1]

REALLY??

Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not.
Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not.
Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not.
Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not.
Some believe in doctrine of “once saved, always saved”, while others do not.
Some believe in a pre-tribulation “Rapture”, while others do not.
Some believe that only those who were predestined will make it to heaven, while others do not.
Some believe that some were predestined for hell, while others do not.
Some believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, while others do not.
Some believe that practicing homosexuality is a sin, while others do not.
Most believe in contraception, while others do not – and the list goes on . . .

Some of these differences are essential doctrines.
Soooo - WHO is right and WHO is wrong?

Some catholics believe in the gifts of the Spirit for today, including speaking in tongues, others do not, who is right and who is wrong?

 

[savedbygrace1]

REALLY??

Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not.
Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not.
Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not.
Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not.
Some believe in doctrine of “once saved, always saved”, while others do not.
Some believe in a pre-tribulation “Rapture”, while others do not.
Some believe that only those who were predestined will make it to heaven, while others do not.
Some believe that some were predestined for hell, while others do not.
Some believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, while others do not.
Some believe that practicing homosexuality is a sin, while others do not.
Most believe in contraception, while others do not – and the list goes on . . .

Some of these differences are essential doctrines.
Soooo - WHO is right and WHO is wrong?

Some catholic priests allow non catholics to partake of communion others do not, who is right and who is wrong?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Does your pope sit in a magic chair and become infallible in matters of doctrine and dogma ? FYI, onlyGod is infallible.

Your particular ignorance of Scripture aside - it is precisely because of God'sd infallibility that the Pope cannot teach error.
This isn't something he does on his own - but with the guidance of the Holy spirit (John 16:12015).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Where is the false papacy ? Yes, that would be Rome hence the Roman Catholic Church.

Well - we can no longer claim that yyu are saying this out of mere ignorance because I'be already explained the truth to you.
No - you are now simplt lying because you've run out of ammunition . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Some catholic priests allow non catholics to partake of communion others do not, who is right and who is wrong?

If a priest does something in error - then he is wrong.
Jusy like the bulk of your Protestant Fathers, who were also priests . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Some catholics believe in the gifts of the Spirit for today, including speaking in tongues, others do not, who is right and who is wrong?

I know many Protestants who don't believe in some of the charismatic gifts.
Which of them are wrong?

 

[Taken]

Some catholic priests allow non catholics to partake of communion others do not, who is right and who is wrong?

“Pseudo Right”...The one bringing in the most $$$ and clout.

 

[savedbygrace1]

According to Paul, peter wasn't infallible, he rebuked him

 

[savedbygrace1]

“Pseudo Right”...The one bringing in the most $$$ and clout.

You would think, to read some comments there are no differences among catholics, simply not true. They have things in common with their protestant brothers

 

[Taken]

I know many Protestants who don't believe in some of the charismatic gifts.
Which of them are wrong?

I don’t know of any Protestant clerics who PRETEND a marriage never occurred, so they can PRETEND they are not agreeing to preside over the marriage of a divorced couple. LOL

 

[savedbygrace1]

I know many Protestants who don't believe in some of the charismatic gifts.
Which of them are wrong?

I'm asking you as a catholic, which catholics are right and which ones are wrong. When you answer my question, I will answer yours

 

[BreadOfLife]

A brief search on the internet produced this....

The Catholic Church, also known as the Roman Catholic Church, is the largest Christian church, with 1.3 billion baptised Catholics worldwide as of 2019.

The main differences between Roman Catholics and Catholics are that Roman Catholics form the major Christian group, and Catholics are only a small group of the Christian community, also called as “Greek Orthodox.”

Roman Catholicism: Christian church that has been the decisive spiritual force in the history of Western civilization. Along with Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism, it is one of the three major branches of Christianity. The Roman Catholic Church traces its history to Jesus Christ and the Apostles.

Roman Catholic is a 19th-century British coinage and merely serves to distinguish that church from other churches that are Catholic (see catholic church). The term Roman Church, when used officially, means only the archdiocese of Rome. Roman Catholics may be simply defined as Christians in communion with the pope.

The Roman Catholic Church traces its history to Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Over the course of centuries it developed a highly sophisticated theology and an elaborate organizational structure headed by the papacy, the oldest continuing absolute monarchy in the world.

Why should I believe you and not them?

Because, you should know by now that just because something is on the internest does NOT necessarily make it true.
The title of the Catholic Church is: The Catholic Church.

Here is a definition of "Protestant" - from the internet - that MANY on this forum would have a problem with:
Protestant: "a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church"
Should I nelieve THIS - or the people on this forum??

I have debated non-Catholic on this forum with MANY different definitioons of "Sola Scriptura".
WHO is right? Why shpould I believe one - and NOT the other?

 

[BreadOfLife]

I don’t know of any Protestant clerics who PRETEND a marriage never occurred, so they can PRETEND they are not agreeing to preside over the marriage of a divorced couple. LOL

I don't know of any Catholics who "pretend" that a marriage never occurred, either.

 

[Taken]

You would think, to read some comments there are no differences among catholics, simply not true. They have things in common with their protestant brothers

Not a secret not everyone hears, reads, studies, believes the exact things, regardless of the Religion and the Denomination.

It’s @BreadOfLife pretense that every church acting under the name “catholic” all are in agreement. Even members of the same local “catholic” church are not all in agreement.
I wonder what his own Catholic Priest would think of his “posts” on this forum.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I'm asking you as a catholic, which catholics are right and which ones are wrong. When you answer my question, I will answer yours

If a Catholic rejects the teachings of the Catholic Church - then, he is like YOU - just another Protestant.

 

[savedbygrace1]

I don't know of any Catholics who "pretend" that a marriage never occurred, either.

Didnt Henry the V111 pay the vatican a few times to get some of his marriages annulled? And in the end they wouldnt keep doing it, so he left their church?