Bible alone question

[Robert Gwin]

Your simplicity implies to ignore Joesph’s role, then includes, Joseph father of Jesus.

Scripture is knowledge. The understanding of Scripture...falls under two WAYS...
Gods Supernatural WAY...Spiritual Understanding.
Mans natural WAY....Carnal Understanding.
The DIFFERENCES...are NOT “simple”.

JESUS is the NAME given the Son of Man.
He was “LEGALLY” the Son of ManKIND called;...Mary & Joseph.

CHRIST is the NAME given the Son of God.
He is “NOT a LEGAL” Son of ManKIND...He IS solely the Son of God.

ManKIND, (Joseph & Mary) had no part, in their will, their flesh, their blood, their seeds...... regarding JESUS...or CHRIST.
THEIR ROLE...was JESUS would LEGALLY (according to man’s LAW),
BE, their lawful son, a lawful Jew, a lawful Jew of the House of David.

THEIR (Joseph & Mary)ROLE was accomplished.
ISRAEL (Tribal) Men ... GENTILE Men, did not doubt or question, Joseph the father of Jesus, Mary the mother of Jesus.

ISRAEL historical records recorded Joseph and Mary as father and mother of Jesus.

GENTILE (Roman) historical records recorded Joseph and Mary as father and mother of Jesus.

Gods records reveal, CHRIST, is the one called the Son of God, who IS Gods SPIRIT, POWER, WISDOM, SEED of God, and came forth out from God Himself.

Spiritually....LONG BEFORE He, called JESUS, was sent to Mary’s virgin womb and was revealed coming forth from Mary’s virgin womb....
* He, was WITH God, IN God, Came forth OUT FROM God, Remained WITH God, and SENT to Earth.

John 16:
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
[28] I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Your simplicity implies to ignore Joesph’s role, then includes, Joseph father of Jesus.
Joseph had the same role and responsibility toward Jesus that any stepfather has sir.

JESUS is the NAME given the Son of Man. Yes sir that is correct.
He was “LEGALLY” the Son of ManKIND called;...Mary & Joseph. I agree

CHRIST is the NAME given the Son of God. No sir, Christ is not a name
He is “NOT a LEGAL” Son of ManKIND...He IS solely the Son of God. Contradiction and God has many sons, however Jesus is the only-begotten son of Jehovah.


Spiritually....LONG BEFORE He, called JESUS, was sent to Mary’s virgin womb and was revealed coming forth from Mary’s virgin womb....
* He, was WITH God, IN God, Came forth OUT FROM God, Remained WITH God, and SENT to Earth.

With the exception of being "IN God" I agree.

 

[Robert Gwin]

It sure would be different. At least everyone wouldn't be born slaves.

I guess we have a very different definition of what the term slave means Eloy, we will always be subjected to God and His commandments sir. Adam and Eve were given responsibilities, as will all citizens of the Kingdom of God.

 

[theefaith]

So you believe you have no access to the Holy Spirit ? Post your scripture that supports that.

I refer to public teaching
We must be taught lk 1:4 Matt 28:19 acts 8:31

 

[theefaith]

Some people just don't know how to contend for their faith! Perhaps it's BECAUSE they don't read the Bible?

They don't realize that Jesus said in John 12:6:
"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
OR
John 16:13-15 which reads:
13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you in all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14) He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

Go back with @theefaith and study 1 Timothy 3:15, for there it declares that it is God who is the pillar and GROUND of TRUTH, and NEVER the church as the Catholics teach or what is asserted in John 12:6!!!

Pay heed to the warning of Hosea 4:6.

To God Be The Glory

you must mean Jn 14:6 not 12:6

must hear the church Matt 18:17

the church is the light of the world not Christ alone

The kingdom too

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

 

[theefaith]

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1


Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42
1 Tim 3:15

Fundamentalism drives a wedge between Christ and his church, separates Christ from His kingdom, and the authority of Christ from the new covenant!

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema

Extends to the truth and the church

Cos Christ is the truth and His church teaches the truth without error! Jn 14:6 matt 28:19 matt 18:17 1 Tim 3:15 Jn 29:21-23 Jn 16:13

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

Authority of the Apostles!

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

John 17:18
As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!

Therefore the apostles have authority to send more apostles or successors!
Apostolic succession!

The nations still need to be taught, disciples still need to be baptized and the church the new covenant kingdom of christ still needs to be governed!

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

Christ is an apostle, and has authority to send other apostles, the apostles also have this authority, so the apostles continue down thru the centuries as Christ promised! Matt 28:19-20

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments

The apostles teaching is Christ’s teaching, Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4

Christian rule of faith is not the Bible alone! But the doctrine of the apostles! Acts 2:42

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20



Jesus is the truth!

Jn 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Jn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

To know the truth it is required to know Jesus Christ!

The truth is not some thing but somebody! Jesus Christ!

The church was a the extension of this truth! 1 Tim 3:15
Must hear Christ thru his church! Matt 18:17

 

[Marine0311]

I refer to public teaching
We must be taught lk 1:4 Matt 28:19 acts 8:31

I refer to public teaching
We must be taught lk 1:4 Matt 28:19 acts 8:31

 

[Marine0311]

Scripture ignored and yanked out of context only traps those who ignore scripture in lies and half truths.

Heb 4:16 - Let us therefore comeboldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. You may want to re-read John 14:6

Jhn 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I amthe way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me. Did Jesus mention Mary, a pope, or human priest being needed ? No He did not. No one is subject to the traditions, lies and deceit of the RCC unless they ignore scripture, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus’ teachings.

 

[Taken]

CHRIST is the NAME given the Son of God. No sir, Christ is not a name
He is “NOT a LEGAL” Son of ManKIND...He IS solely the Son of God. Contradiction and God has many sons, however Jesus is the only-begotten son of Jehovah.

Does a name identify what something specific is called?
What is Gods Truth Called? Jesus
What is Gods Life Called? Jesus
What is Gods Way Called? Jesus
What is Gods Power Called? Christ
What is Gods Wisdom Called? Christ
What is Gods Seed Called? Christ
What is Gods Son Called? Christ
What is the Son of Man Called? Jesus
What is Gods Lord Called? Holy, Son of God, Christ Jesus, Teacher, Master, Quickening Spirit, Savior, Deliverer, Rock, Truth, Power, Way, Life, Seed, Forgiver, Advocate, True Light, Same yesterday, today, tomorrow, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient.
What did God send His Lord to Earth to Sacrifice FOR mankind?
* Exclusively (in the Likeness As a Jewish Body), A body God prepared.
* A body God prepared with, Pure Holy FLESH and Pure Holy BLOOD.

Do you remember, Mary was told...His name shall be called Jesus, and He shall be called the Son of God?

Do you remember THE DAY, He was called the Son of God?

Acts 13:
[33] God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
(Baptized, age 30, THAT DAY begotten, and “shall be called” Son of God, “was manifested”)

Remember, Jesus OUR Example?
Remember the Day, after Pentecost, when all Jesus’ Disciples, His chosen, Others, men and women gathering, about 110 people, and they all THAT DAY becoming Baptized with the Holy Spirit, becoming MADE, “sons of God”?

Acts 2:
[1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
[2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
[3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
[4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Male, female, in one accord, (ie one heartful belief); Became Baptized by, with, of the Holy Spirit; thereafter the Holy Spirit with AND in them.
(And BTW no mention of Johns water Baptism).

Spiritually....LONG BEFORE He, called JESUS, was sent to Mary’s virgin womb and was revealed coming forth from Mary’s virgin womb....
* He, was WITH God, IN God, Came forth OUT FROM God, Remained WITH God, and SENT to Earth.

With the exception of being "IN God" I agree.

Remember, Jesus IS the Word of God.
Remember, It was the Word of God, God SENT to Earth.
Remember, Gods Word IS Gods Truth.

You speaking your own word, via speech, comes forth out from you.
If your own word does not also remain IN you, YOUR OWN TRUTH, does not remain IN you.

No different with God. Gods Truth never Departs from God, no matter where God Sends His Truth.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[theefaith]

Scripture ignored and yanked out of context only traps those who ignore scripture in lies and half truths.

Heb 4:16 - Let us therefore comeboldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. You may want to re-read John 14:6

Jhn 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I amthe way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me. Did Jesus mention Mary, a pope, or human priest being needed ? No He did not. No one is subject to the traditions, lies and deceit of the RCC unless they ignore scripture, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus’ teachings.

The church is an extension of Christ!

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1


Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42
1 Tim 3:15

Fundamentalism drives a wedge between Christ and his church, separates Christ from His kingdom, and the authority of Christ from the new covenant!

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema

Extends to the truth and the church

Cos Christ is the truth and His church teaches the truth without error! Jn 14:6 matt 28:19 matt 18:17 1 Tim 3:15 Jn 29:21-23 Jn 16:13

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

Authority of the Apostles!

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

John 17:18
As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!

Therefore the apostles have authority to send more apostles or successors!
Apostolic succession!

The nations still need to be taught, disciples still need to be baptized and the church the new covenant kingdom of christ still needs to be governed!

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

Christ is an apostle, and has authority to send other apostles, the apostles also have this authority, so the apostles continue down thru the centuries as Christ promised! Matt 28:19-20

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments

The apostles teaching is Christ’s teaching, Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4

Christian rule of faith is not the Bible alone! But the doctrine of the apostles! Acts 2:42

 

[Marine0311]

The church is an extension of Christ!

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1


Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42
1 Tim 3:15

Fundamentalism drives a wedge between Christ and his church, separates Christ from His kingdom, and the authority of Christ from the new covenant!

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema

Extends to the truth and the church

Cos Christ is the truth and His church teaches the truth without error! Jn 14:6 matt 28:19 matt 18:17 1 Tim 3:15 Jn 29:21-23 Jn 16:13

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

Authority of the Apostles!

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

John 17:18
As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!

Therefore the apostles have authority to send more apostles or successors!
Apostolic succession!

The nations still need to be taught, disciples still need to be baptized and the church the new covenant kingdom of christ still needs to be governed!

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

Christ is an apostle, and has authority to send other apostles, the apostles also have this authority, so the apostles continue down thru the centuries as Christ promised! Matt 28:19-20

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments

The apostles teaching is Christ’s teaching, Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4

Christian rule of faith is not the Bible alone! But the doctrine of the apostles! Acts 2:42

Absolute rubbish. Go read John 14:6 again it says only Jesus is needed there is no mention of Mary, a false lying pope, human priest , and the un-scriptural traditions of the RCC.

 

[EloyCraft]

No church or congregation on earth, since time began, is ever the pillar and ground of truth!!! The pillar and ground of truth belongs to God alone and He gave this truth individually to those who are His children who are born in different times in history and are composed of the totality of ALL believers.

Here is the context of 1 Timothy 3:15:
"....that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God [whose house? God's], which is the church of the living God [whose church? God's], the pillar and ground of the truth [God is the pillar and ground of truth of His own church NEVER man!].
What you and the CC have done is take away the glory of God which is blasphemy.



Again, if you don't know already, the invisible church [Galatians 6:16] consist of all believers, it is they that have the truth. God did not save everybody [Matthew 1:21].
See the parable of the Wheat and Tares.

To God Be The Glory

Either/ or bias l. This is a both /and thing brother.

Jesus symbol rock recalls His Earthly incarnation.
His Church is on the rock meaning it's a material instituted reality. The Church has the same characteristics as in the beginning.m Anyone can ask where it is like in the new testament and it can be pointed out. The Church as the mystical body is too but it's existence is dependant on a visible Church Church ministering Christ from the rock.. The Mystical Body is hidden in mist. Can't touch it.

 

[EloyCraft]

I guess we have a very different definition of what the term slave means Eloy, we will always be subjected to God and His commandments sir. Adam and Eve were given responsibilities, as will all citizens of the Kingdom of God.

Truth sets us free sin captures us and keeps us.

 

[theefaith]

Absolute rubbish. Go read John 14:6 again it says only Jesus is needed there is no mention of Mary, a false lying pope, human priest , and the un-scriptural traditions of the RCC.

Jesus ain’t here he ascended to heaven, now what do we do who is in charge?

 

[theefaith]

Jesus Christ is the rock of salvation!

Peter is the rock that the church is built on by Christ alone!

Lk 22
All apostles But Jesus prays for Peter alone

Jn 21:17 Peter entrusted with the flock or church

Only Peter and His successors have
Jurisdictional authority from Christ to govern the church!

Already acting in the person of Christ even acting as intermediary!

It is Jesus Christ who identifies peter with himself!

Matt 17:24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the houser, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

It is Jesus Christ who identifies peter with himself! Matt 17:27

Jesus Christ gives the keys of the kingdom to peter matt 16:18-19 making him prime minister applying Isa 22:21-22 to peter

It’s Christ who does this

Why is the name of peter even mentioned?

Why does Christ change Peter’s name, God changing a persons name like Abram to Abraham or Jacob to Israel always signifies a mission or ministry!

Why does Christ give him the keys of jurisdictional authority that the prime minister holds under the king to administer the kingdom? Isa 22:21-22

How do you govern the church and administer the kingdom with a confession?

How do you give jurisdictional authority to a confession? (Keys of the kingdom)

How do you give a confession the power to bind and loose?


also have to explain
Isa 22:21-22 jurisdictional authority of the keys and called father
Matt 28:19 go teach baptize
Jn 20:21-23 same mission power and authority as christ
Eph 2:20 church built on the apostles
Matt 23 successors of Moses have the jurisdictional authority and the power to bind and loose which Christ says must be obeyed, then taken from them matt 21:43 given to Peter and the apostles and their successors

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (plural Peter and his successors)
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.



Applies only to Peter as “prince of the apostles”!

Peter and his successors are the Leader of the apostles and the head of the church until Christ returns!

First and chief apostle!

Matt 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter,

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (plural Peter and his successors)
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Lk 22:32 Christ prayed for Peter!

Peter is head of the church on earth in the place of Christ until His return!

Isa 22:21-22 21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah.

22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open.

Matt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matt 23:1 power and authority of the kingdom known in the keys and binding and loosing, Matt 21:43 kingdom shall be taken from you given to another who will bear fruit. (Peter the apostles in holy church Lk 22:29)

Matt 17:27 Jesus identified peter with himself.

Matt 16:17 Peter alone received revelation from the Father

Lk 22:32 Peter to strengthen his brethren (the apostles)

Jn 21:17 feed my sheep

Peter exercises his authority over the apostles and the church!

Acts 1:15
Acts 3:4
Acts 5:5 5:10
Acts 10:44
Acts 15:7

ONLY TO PETER CHRIST SAID: THOU ART PETER AND UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILT MY CHURCH, AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT!Matt 16:18

Peter is the prime minister, father, and head of the church on earth until Christ returns Isa 22:21-22

Seat of peter remains Until Christ returns
Matt 28:19-20


Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.


Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

4 important questions:

1) How do you govern the church and administer the kingdom with a confession?

2) How do you give jurisdictional authority to a confession? (Keys of the kingdom)

3) How do you give a confession the power to bind and loose?

4) why did Christ give the keys to Peter (and only to Peter) keys of jurisdictional authority. Isa 22:21-22 why even bother to mention Peter if he is not involved?

Explain Jn 20:21 Peter and the apostles and their successors have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! “As the father sent me, so I send you”!

Matt 28:19 christ communicates his authority to peter and the apostles to teach all nations, baptize all disciples!
Jn 20:21-23 apostles even have authority to forgive sins
Eph 2:20 church built on the apostles
Matt 23 the authority and power of the successors of Moses required to be obeyed are taken from them and given to Peter and the apostles

Jn 21:17
Peter commanded to Feed my sheep:

2 Tim 3: 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
(Protestants, fundamentalists, etc.)

Christ and His church are one!
God cannot reveal error and the church cannot teach error!

 

[theefaith]

Truth sets us free sin captures us and keeps us.

false doctrine too!

 

[Marine0311]

Jesus ain’t here he ascended to heaven, now what do we do who is in charge?

 

[EloyCraft]

false doctrine too!

Good point!

 

[EloyCraft]

Well someone must be in charge we aren't orphans.

 

[Marine0311]

If would really help you if you actually read the Bible.

Jhn 14:16 - And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you anotherComforter, that he may abide with youfor ever;
Jhn 14:17 - Even the Spirit of truth;whom the world cannot receive,because it seeth him not, neitherknoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 14:18 - I will not leave youcomfortless: I will come to you.

 

[theefaith]

Protestant fundamentalism Spiritual anarchy!

they are orphans: no mother Mary!

question:

Is Jesus Christ the king?