Bible alone question

[Marine0311]

The Holy Spirit.

Jhn 14:26 - But the Comforter,which is the Holy Ghost, whom theFather will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all thingsto your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


Jhn 15:26 - But when theComforter is come, whom I will sendunto you from the Father, even theSpirit of truth, which proceedeth fromthe Father, he shall testify of me:

 

[theefaith]

The Holy Spirit.

Jhn 14:26 - But the Comforter,which is the Holy Ghost, whom theFather will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all thingsto your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


Jhn 15:26 - But when theComforter is come, whom I will sendunto you from the Father, even theSpirit of truth, which proceedeth fromthe Father, he shall testify of me:

Jn 16:13 the HS teaches the apostles and they teach us Matt 28:19

 

[Marine0311]

Jn 16:13 the HS teaches the apostles and they teach us Matt 28:19

So you believe you have no access to the Holy Spirit ? Post your scripture that supports that.

 

[EloyCraft]

Very true Eloy, if either Adam or Eve would have remained sinless, we would not have inherited sin and death. I suppose it worked out for the best however, as sooner or later some 2 parents would have sinned and then you would have some who die and some who don't. I could only imagine the hatred toward God for being born into a sinful family.

It sure would be different. At least everyone wouldn't be born slaves.

 

[EloyCraft]

The Holy Spirit helps individual Christians with their Individual needs. The Holy Spirit isn't promised to individuals to be guided to all truth. Individual Christians depend on the Church for that. It's the Church that is established in Universal Truth.

 

[Marine0311]

The Holy Spirit helps individual Christians with their Individual needs. The Holy Spirit isn't promised to individuals to be guided to all truth. Individual Christians depend on the Church for that. It's the Church that is established in Universal Truth.

 

[Marine0311]

Sadly, the man made church (RomanCatholic) was corrupted from its inception in 325ad.

 

[JunChosen]

The Holy Spirit helps individual Christians with their Individual needs. The Holy Spirit isn't promised to individuals to be guided to all truth. Individual Christians depend on the Church for that. It's the Church that is established in Universal Truth.

Some people just don't know how to contend for their faith! Perhaps it's BECAUSE they don't read the Bible?

They don't realize that Jesus said in John 12:6:
"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
OR
John 16:13-15 which reads:
13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you in all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14) He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

Go back with @theefaith and study 1 Timothy 3:15, for there it declares that it is God who is the pillar and GROUND of TRUTH, and NEVER the church as the Catholics teach or what is asserted in John 12:6!!!

Pay heed to the warning of Hosea 4:6.

To God Be The Glory

 

[EloyCraft]

Sadly, the man made church (RomanCatholic) was corrupted from its inception in 325ad.

Are you implying that the gates of hell prevailed?
That eternal Truth was swallowed up in delusions?

If not will you please point out the Church that isn't man made?

 

[Marine0311]

Are you implying that the gates of hell prevailed?
That eternal Truth was swallowed up in delusions?

If not will you please point out the Church that isn't man made?

 

[Marine0311]

No, I am stating that the RCC lied from the very beginning of their existence since 325 ad and has never stopped lying.

 

[EloyCraft]

Some people just don't know how to contend for their faith! Perhaps it's BECAUSE they don't read the Bible?

They don't realize that Jesus said in John 12:6:
"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
OR
John 16:13-15 which reads:
13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you in all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14) He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

Go back with @theefaith and study 1 Timothy 3:15, for there it declares that it is God who is the pillar and GROUND of TRUTH, and NEVER the church as the Catholics teach or what is asserted in John 12:6!!!

Pay heed to the warning of Hosea 4:6.

To God Be The Glory

Are you thinking this means the pillar of truth is not the Church? The House of God ?
1 Timothy

15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Why did God bother giving the Church Truth free of error if it would not have a purpose?

You can't think that a rotten tree can produce good fruit can you?

You'll say, the bible is the good tree.

I say, why bother giving infallible truth if no one is able to receive it infallibly?

I think you should look up the psychological term 'projection'.

 

[EloyCraft]

No, I am stating that the RCC lied from the very beginning of their existence since 325 ad and has never stopped lying.

That's saying just what I thought you were e saying. If God had to come to establish truth without error, how is the Holy Spirit able to lead us to all truth if He doesn't preserve it from error?

Satan's lies prevailed is what you would rather believe?
You believe that rather than admit that Jesus commissions a Church to teach His Gospel as He gave it?

You believe a Church that doesn't operate in the power of Christ.

 

[Marine0311]

That's saying just what I thought you were e saying. If God had to come to establish truth without error, how is the Holy Spirit able to lead us to all truth if He doesn't preserve it from error?

Satan's lies prevailed is what you would rather believe?
You believe that rather than admit that Jesus commissions a Church to teach His Gospel as He gave it?

You believe a Church that doesn't operate in the power of Christ.

 

[Marine0311]

I believe God and scripture which exposes the RCC as a charlatan lying man made institution that does as it pleases not what God requires.

 

[EloyCraft]

I believe God and scripture which exposes the RCC as a charlatan lying man made institution that does as it pleases not what God requires.

Is that an infallible statement or is it possible for you to err?

We are orphans according to you because No one is able to teach what was delivered.

 

[Marine0311]

Is that an infallible statement or is it possible for you to err?

We are orphans according to you because No one is able to teach what was delivered.

 

[Marine0311]

Based on scripture my statement stands.

 

[JunChosen]

I say, why bother giving infallible truth if no one is able to receive it infallibly?

You misunderstand God's truth. There are those who receive the truth infallibly and they are those whom God has elected/chosen in eternity past before the foundation of the world.

"Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."

Only those whom God elected/chosen to salvation before the foundation of the world Will Hear His Voice!

And please don't describe yourself in the market place as you have intimately associated yourself as a psychological projection. Lol!

To God Be The Glory

 

[JunChosen]

Are you thinking this means the pillar of truth is not the Church? The House of God ?
1 Timothy

15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

No church or congregation on earth, since time began, is ever the pillar and ground of truth!!! The pillar and ground of truth belongs to God alone and He gave this truth individually to those who are His children who are born in different times in history and are composed of the totality of ALL believers.

Here is the context of 1 Timothy 3:15:
"....that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God [whose house? God's], which is the church of the living God [whose church? God's], the pillar and ground of the truth [God is the pillar and ground of truth of His own church NEVER man!].
What you and the CC have done is take away the glory of God which is blasphemy.

Why did God bother giving the Church Truth free of error if it would not have a purpose?

Again, if you don't know already, the invisible church [Galatians 6:16] consist of all believers, it is they that have the truth. God did not save everybody [Matthew 1:21].
See the parable of the Wheat and Tares.

To God Be The Glory