John 2:23-25 is carefully written to show that the Christ had a carnal mind, latent in him, demonstrated in his words "not
my will but
thine be done".
Unfortunately. F2F, I will never follow you and your strange voice.
He knew what was in man - This he did because he had made all Joh_1:3, and because he was God, Joh_1:1. There can be no higher evidence than this that he was omniscient, and was therefore divine. To search the heart is the prerogative of God alone Jer_17:10; and as Jesus knew what was in “these disciples,” and as it is expressly said that he knew what was in man - that is, in “all people” - so it follows that he must be equal with God. As he knows “all,” he is acquainted with the false pretentions and professions of hypocrites. None can deceive him. He also knows the wants and desires of all his real friends. He hears their groans, he sees their sighs, he counts their tears, and in the day of need will come to their relief.
testify = bear witness. See note on Joh_1:7.
what was in man. This attribute elsewhere attributed only to Jehovah (Jer_17:10; Jer_20:12). Here this knowledge was universal ("all", Joh_2:24), and individual ("man ").
For he himself knew (autos gar eginōsken).
Imperfect active, “for he himself kept on knowing” as he did from the start.
What was in man (ti ēn en tōi anthrōpōi). Indirect question with estin of the direct changed to the imperfect ēn, a rare idiom in the Koiné. This supernatural knowledge of man is a mark of deity. Some men of genius can read men better than others, but not in the sense meant here.
for he knew what was in man; which none but the spirit of a man can know; his inward thoughts, the secrets of the heart; thus Christ knew the thoughts of the Scribes and Pharisees, Mat_9:4, being a discerner of the thoughts, and intents of the heart, Heb_4:12. This Apollonius Tyaneus, the ape of Christ, ascribed to himself (o); but is what is peculiar to God; and Christ being God, knows all that is in man; that there is no good in him naturally, nothing but what comes from his Father, is imparted by himself, or implanted by his Spirit; he knows the wickedness there is in man, that his heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, and full of all manner of iniquities; he knows in what condition all the and faculties of the souls of men are; what their affections are set upon, on earthly or heavenly things; whether there is any light in their understandings, or not; whether their wills are subdued and resigned to the will of God, or not; whether their minds and consciences are defiled, or their hearts are sprinkled from an evil conscience; in short, whether the internal good work of grace is begun upon their souls, or not; and he knows the secret springs of all actions, good and bad; all which prove his true and proper deity, and show him to be a suitable Saviour of sinners, and qualify him to be the Judge of the whole earth.
And needed not any information concerning the principles and humours of all men; for he perfectly knew men, not only from their more external acts and behaviours, (as we know them), but he knew what was in them, searching the hearts, and trying the reins, which is the property of God alone, 1Ki_8:39 Psa_33:15. Here what we formerly observed is again observable, that oft times in holy writ, for the further confirmation of a proposition, to a universal affirmative is added a contrary negative. Here ariseth a question, agitated between the Lutherans and the Calvinists, Whether Christ as man knew all things, and what is in the heart of man. They affirm it, because of the personal union of the Divine and human natures in Christ.
We say, that although there be such a personal union, yet the properties of each nature remain distinct; upon which account Christ denieth that he, as the Son of man, knew the day and hour of the end of the world. Besides, by the same reason that omniscience belongeth to the human nature of Christ, omnipotence, infiniteness, and omnipresence, also must; which last indeed they affirm, seeing that without it they were not able to defend their doctrine of consubstantiation, or the presence of the body and blood of Christ, wherever the sacrament of his supper is administered; but this being a matter polemical, we shall not here discourse it. Those who would be satisfied as to what is said on either side, may find enough in Gerard, Hunnius, and Farnovius, on the Lutherans’ side; and in Zanchius and others on the Calvinists’ side, Zanchius de Natura and Attributis Dei, lib. 3. cap. 2. qu. 16.
You better read carefully because Christ was both Son of man/Man and God i.e. a dual nature, before the resurrection, and after the resurrection.
On this forum the pendulum has swung too far left, influenced by Arminian/ Calvinist viewpoints.
I know my Lord God and Savior Christ Jesus and He knows me and I am not here to please man nor am I afraid of the face of man.
On this platform Christ has been reduced to a mere creature and man deified, time for true believers to man up and debunk these foreign doctrines coming from such as yourself.
If my own doctrines are not in one accord with the scriptures I am in danger of everlasting damnation and everlasting burnings, no cessation of the soul, also debunked by many on this forum.
Repent, and come back to Christ.
J.
